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  • #8857
    Unholy_Goalie
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    However, they could grab Aaron Ekblad as a UFA. If Rielly was moved for picks or prospects, that cash could go straight to Ekblad and solidify the right side of the defense. Leafs need to dispose of both Marner and Rielly. Replace with picks to restock the cupboard. Brock Boeser, and Nikolaj Ehlers could be had for the price of Marner’s contract. You solidify the top 6 and the defense is stronger. Is it enough to win the Atlantic? Maybe. Some time soon, the drain of talent from Florida will finally take them out. Leafs have 2 years to get it done, before the younger teams like Ottawa, Montreal, and Detroit come knocking.

    Why the fuck would Ekblad want to play for the Leafs? Please, explain yourself. UFAs aren’t a box of nails you buy at Home Depot. They aren’t just sitting there, waiting for you to be the first one to show up when the doors open.

    Do you honestly believe Ekblad has had so many blows to the head that he forgets how much better off he is in Florida?

    Additionally, even if he actually was that stupid, why should the Leafs pay him a ridiculous amount of money for 3 goals and 33 points from age 30-37…?

    I’m sorry but you’re absolutely fucked if you think Marner needs to be “disposed of” but then want to replace him with soft as baby shit Ehlers and -25 Boeser.

    You make absolutely no sense.

    #8858
    PrinceLH
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    That remains to be said. If Marner wants $13.5M, it’s way too much. You can’t win with this playoff no show at that pay grade. 9 years of this! You wanna make it 10? It’s what you get if you don’t do something about the Cap with this player. He has not won us Jack Sh!t since he’s come to Toronto. No leadership skills, no grit. But he wants more than McDavid. I call Bullsh!t on this mini mercenary.

    Leafs need a banger and a player that can shoot the puck from the point. Rielly isn’t it, but Ekblad is. Tavares is also a huge liability that needs to be addressed.

    #8859
    Unholy_Goalie
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    That remains to be said. If Marner wants $13.5M, it’s way too much.

    Basic math says that anything less than 16.5 AAV for Marner would actually be a home town discount.

    It’s very easy to do. Try it yourself.

    https://puckpedia.com/tax-calculator

    Marner would take home the same amount in Vegas at 12 AAV as he would in Toronto at 16.5 AAV.

    So if he’s asking for the same as Matthews, that actually is a hometown discount. The problem is, absolutely nobody seems to be sharp enough to realize that he’s losing a lot of money by staying in Toronto at that price.

    You can’t win with this playoff no show at that pay grade. 9 years of this! You wanna make it 10?

    More career playoff points than Matthews, Nylander, Rielly and Tavares. But somehow, the idiots in the media (whom you are parroting) label him the one “no show”. Makes no sense.

    Took Yzerman 14 years to win a Cup. Took Ovechkin 12 years, and he’s only advanced past the 2nd round once. Yes, it’s frustrating but it takes time to continue adding pieces to the team to be able to win a Cup in a stacked division.

    It’s what you get if you don’t do something about the Cap with this player. He has not won us Jack Sh!t since he’s come to Toronto. No leadership skills, no grit. But he wants more than McDavid. I call Bullsh!t on this mini mercenary.

    So trade Matthews and Nylander too by your logic?

    Leafs need a banger and a player that can shoot the puck from the point. Rielly isn’t it, but Ekblad is.

    Bennett, Marchand and Ekblad are not leaving Florida for Toronto. Ekblad had 3 goals last year. Rielly had 7. Both had 4 playoff goals each. But Ekblad only has 8 career playoff goals. Rielly has 15. Imagine being so stupid as to trade away Rielly, only to sign a guy for the same (or more) money who gives you even less offense, with a history of concussions and who will demand more money than the Leafs can afford to give him. The Leafs would be better off with Brent Burns than Ekblad at 30% of the cost without the long term commitment.

    Tavares is also a huge liability that needs to be addressed.

    Probably the only accurate statement you’ve made all night.

    #8872
    Azure
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    Oilers/Panthers looks like it is mirroring the Leafs series.. Game 4 will be interesting but Florida seems to have gotten under the Oilers skin

    #8882
    fifty mission cap
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    Except that the Oilers didn’t lie down and roll over in the game they lost 6-1 the way the Leafs did. Twice. The Oilers actually showed some pride.

    #8931
    WHIPPER
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    Except that the Oilers didn’t lie down and roll over in the game they lost 6-1 the way the Leafs did. Twice. The Oilers actually showed some pride.
    ~fifty

    A lot of good that did them. So, the Oilers are leading the series in moral victories?!?

    #8944
    Mr. Sir
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    Assuming we resign all 3 RFA FW
    Current roster

    Knies Matthews Nylander
    McMann Tavares Robertson
    Domi Laughton Jarnkrok
    Holmberg Kampf Cowan/Reaves

    We need more toughness in bottom 6

    Lorentz is meh
    Kant must go!
    Holmberg/Robertson/Jarnkrok trade bait

    Options: Tanev, Jeannot, Kuraly, Frederic, Armia, Bjugstad, Cousins ?

    #8946
    WHIPPER
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    Mr. Sir, that second line is terrifyingly bad defensively.

    #8957
    Mr. Sir
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    Yes, but slightly better with JT than Domi

    Hence the trade bait list
    89/29/29

    Just the current roster, so we can see where we need to improve (aka 2nd line RW)
    And…. Bottom 6

    #8971
    PrinceLH
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    Better to try to trade Marner’s rights, or let him walk. Add two players to the top 6 with that money. Make sure to get Knies signed and let Tavares walk, if he wants more than $5M on a one year deal.

    On the Oilers, if I’m the Leafs, I send out feelers to them regarding acquiring one of our goaltenders. Make it a steep price, like Bouchard, or a 1st and a prospect. Leafs seem to have a lot of goaltenders, moving through their system right now. Giving up Stolarz or Woll could net a top flight player. Edmonton is desperate right now to find a decent goaltender that isn’t going to cost them $5M per season.

    #8972
    Unholy_Goalie
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    On the Oilers, if I’m the Leafs, I send out feelers to them regarding acquiring one of our goaltenders. Make it a steep price, like Bouchard

    Yes, then sign Bouchard to 900K, 8 year deal.

    Then throw in McDavid for Reaves’ game worn mitts.

    #8977
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Assuming we resign all 3 RFA FW
    Current roster

    Knies Matthews Nylander
    McMann Tavares Robertson
    Domi Laughton Jarnkrok
    Holmberg Kampf Cowan/Reaves

    We need more toughness in bottom 6

    Lorentz is meh
    Kant must go!
    Holmberg/Robertson/Jarnkrok trade bait

    Options: Tanev, Jeannot, Kuraly, Frederic, Armia, Bjugstad, Cousins ?

    Knies @ 7×3 | Matthews | Marner @ 13.16×8
    R. Smith @ 4×3 | Jenner @ 3.75×1 | Nylander
    Domi | McBain @ 3.5×3 | B. Tanev @ 1.75×2 (or Corey Perry)
    Laughton | Blueger @ 1.8×1 | Lorentz @ 1×1
    Comtois @ 850 (or Pacioretty @ 1 if he doesn’t retire)

    OEL | Tanev
    McCabe | T. Myers
    Burns @ 2×1* | Carlo
    Benoit

    Woll | Stolarz

    #8978
    dmnted
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    Better to try to trade Marner’s rights, or let him walk. Add two players to the top 6 with that money. Make sure to get Knies signed and let Tavares walk, if he wants more than $5M on a one year deal.

    I think JT will get a 4 or 5 year extension @ 5 or 5.5M cap hit
    I agree with Knies.

    #8979
    dmnted
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    R.Smith is to old. 34 and he cannot stay healthy. PERIOD!
    and has hands of stone. He got what 11 points last year.
    I’d rather keep Lorentz who will be cheaper and better IMO

    #8981
    Unholy_Goalie
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    I think JT will get a 4 or 5 year extension @ 5 or 5.5M cap hit
    I agree with Knies.

    I think the Leafs can’t win a Cup with a player that bad defensively, that old at that price. He was useless in 6 out of 7 games against Florida. Why does anybody think that just because he’ll make 50% less money that he’ll some how become 50% more effective. He wasn’t even scoring on the PP, the one area of his game that should still be sharp as a tack. Looks like people are lying about him being as sharp as a tack. Sounds familiar.

    Knies should be on the lowest possible cap hit over 3 years. The longer the deal, the higher the cap hit because the Leafs would be buying UFA years. The Leafs are better off avoiding the same mistake they made with previous players and keeping his deal to 3 years. When Domi’s contract expires, you give Knies that extra cap space and make him the 10-11 million AAV player when he’s earned it. By then, Matthews will be gone too anyways.

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