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  • #8982
    Unholy_Goalie
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    R.Smith is to old. 34 and he cannot stay healthy. PERIOD!
    and has hands of stone. He got what 11 points last year.
    I’d rather keep Lorentz who will be cheaper and better IMO

    And how old is Tavares? Right…34.

    He scored 40 points and played 79 games last year. What fucking stats are you looking at?

    The difference is that Smith is a two-way winger who brings plenty of playoff experience. And most importantly, he’s an actual winner. Cheaper than Tavares too, on a shorter deal. Still a hometown guy too.

    On no planet or universe is Lorentz better than Smith. Just because a player is cheaper doesn’t mean you’re going to win a Cup. Otherwise, the Columbus Blue Jackets would be Cup champs by now.

    #8990
    Mr. Sir
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    For UG lineup proposal:

    Marner 13.16m not happening
    R Smith is washed
    JT still a PPG player – discount 👍
    CBJ not trading Jenner (I wish)
    Overpayment for McBain
    Underpayment for Tanev
    Blueger is fine
    Comtois no for political reasons
    Patches is a better option
    Burns is older than Monty
    T Myers 🤨

    Am I doing this right? 😂

    #8995
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Marner 13.16m not happening
    R Smith is washed
    JT still a PPG player – discount 👍
    CBJ not trading Jenner (I wish)
    Overpayment for McBain
    Underpayment for Tanev
    Blueger is fine
    Comtois no for political reasons
    Patches is a better option
    Burns is older than Monty
    T Myers 🤨

    Marner could still sign, it’s not a guarantee one way or the other that he won’t.

    If Smith is washed, Tavares is washed. Point per game against Florida? Oh right, disappeared in 6 out of 7 games. He’s useless defensively too. At least Smith can play two-way hockey and isn’t a liability. Has a ring too.

    Jenner has been on the trade block for years. They have enough young guys that can replace him. He’s a pending UFA anyway so CBJ would move him if the Leafs tried hard enough. Jarnkrok or Kampf + McMann or Robertson.

    McBain is worth every penny. 200-300 hits, big body, can win FOs and depth scoring. Young, home town guy. 10 times better than wasting that money on Tavares.

    Tanev either wants to play for a home town discount or he can go take a hike. He’s not that good. He’s only worth it if he’s cheap. I’d take Perry over him for the same money every day of the week.

    Nothing wrong with Comtois. Perfectly good depth player.

    Pacioretty is always injured. Definitely need him to have a platoon buddy.

    Burns is huge, can play RD or RW. Only a 1 year deal so it doesn’t matter if he’s old. Just matters if he can hammer pucks on net from the point and be steady.

    Tyler Myers and Blueger for Rielly. Another big body on the blueline who can shoot pucks in hard and low.

    #9022
    dmnted
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    I think the Leafs can’t win a Cup with a player that bad defensively, that old at that price. He was useless in 6 out of 7 games against Florida.

    So were the other star players.

    #9024
    dmnted
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    He scored 40 points and played 79 games last year. What fucking stats are you looking at?

    capwages.com/players/reilly-smith
    oh yeah he played with the rangers as well.

    #9025
    dmnted
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    Jenner has been on the trade block for years.

    yeah, I don’t think so.
    he’d be moved already is that was the case.
    Skalapy has want him on the Leafs team for ever.

    #9026
    dmnted
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    man, people are hoping other players from the GTA are going to be taken a discount to play for the Leafs.
    gee. what naivety

    #9031
    Unholy_Goalie
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    So were the other star players.

    Nylander being among the worst of them. So trade Nylander? No. Why? Because at least they’re still in their prime years. Tavares is finished. He’s not worth a penny more than 2 million a year. Take it or enjoy Buffalo.

    yeah, I don’t think so. he’d be moved already is that was the case. Skalapy has want him on the Leafs team for ever.

    He was injured most of last year and CBJ was fine without him. They can afford to move him. They also kind of have to move him because he only has 1 year left on his deal. They have enough young C, they need more young wingers. Jenner is not only exactly what the Leafs need to replace Tavares, he’s also exactly what the Leafs always overpay for at the deadline. Make a deal now, pay less and lock up what will be a solid future 2C.

    If it takes picks or prospects, Jarnkrok, Kampf, McMann, Robertson, whatever it is except maybe Cowan. Get the deal done.

    Same with McBain. Or Lawson Crouse. Instead of sitting there saying “oh, I wish we had Sam Bennett” go out and find the next one before he becomes unaffordable. Sam Bennett was acquired for Emil Heineman and a 2nd round pick. There’s no reason why the Leafs couldn’t have made that deal before Florida. But they were too stupid. Time to stop being stupid and find the next one.

    man, people are hoping other players from the GTA are going to be taken a discount to play for the Leafs. gee. what naivety

    Seems to be what everybody is relying on Tavares to do. But instead of spending that 5-6 million on an old, overrated, slow, defensively garbage Tavares, they should be looking for every other low risk, high reward home town discount they can find from reliable two-way players.

    #9062
    dmnted
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    He was injured most of last year and CBJ was fine without him.

    Image if he wasn’t hurt. They could made the playoffs with a couple extra W with him in their line up

    #9097
    senstrolltwo
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    For a bit more cap flexibility, might be a good idea to bridge Knies.
    go 2 or 3 years now would allow them to add 1 more decent bottom 6

    #9110
    PrinceLH
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    For a bit more cap flexibility, might be a good idea to bridge Knies.
    go 2 or 3 years now would allow them to add 1 more decent bottom 6

    That’s like throwing a Molotov Cocktail in a couple of years. Do you really want him to leave as a UFA? Or an offer-sheet this year? Pay him now at $7M for 8 years, or pay him $11M in 2 years. Better to have the lesser cap hit in year’s 3 through 8.

    #9112
    habman1975
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    Tavares will sign a value contract at 3 X 5.5. Most in the hockey world will say that this is a fantastic deal for a ppg player. A few will say it is just right. 1 person will say it is a terrible contract. This person is suffering from TDS. (not the political version, Tavares Derangement Syndrome)

    #9113
    senstrolltwo
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    That’s like throwing a Molotov Cocktail in a couple of years. Do you really want him to leave as a UFA? Or an offer-sheet this year? Pay him now at $7M for 8 years, or pay him $11M in 2 years. Better to have the lesser cap hit in year’s 3 through 8.

    Well thats if that number was possible. Which it may not be for 8 years.

    some realistic numbers iv seen based on current and projected cap.

    8 years at 8-8.5mil
    comp players like Boldy, Slaf, Byfield signed in the 7-8% of the cap range
    not all were for 8 years. its 7, 8 and 5 years

    while its easy to say sign him now for 8 years at 7 mil, I doubt thats the number (anymore)

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    #9117
    senstrolltwo
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    another comp for Knies is Wyatt Johnson, he signed for 8.4 x 5 years. he did have a little more proven success though

    #9127
    Azure
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    Sabres appear to be ready to move on from Alex Tuch

    To Buffalo
    Robertson
    Kampf/Jarncrok(or both for all I care)
    Neimala/Steeves other prospect(Leafs have a number of prospects that they seem to have no use for)
    4th round pick

    To Toronto

    Alex Tuch
    2nd round pick

    Assuming the signings of Knies, Pathces and Tavares go through and Marner is gone

    Try to sign Duchene/Bennet(I think Bennet contract is going to make him stupidly overpaid.

    Knies Mathews Domi
    McMann Duchene/Bennet Nylander
    Patches Tavares Tuch
    X Laughton XXXX

    Fill the 4th line with big tough guys who can skate.
    Patches should be load managed to get him to the playoffs healthy.. Play him every other game

    Alternatively

    Try to trade for the rights to Marco Rossi/Mason Mctavish

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