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June 12, 2025 at 7:25 pm #9142
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ParticipantExcept that the Oilers didn’t lie down and roll over in the game they lost 6-1 the way the Leafs did. Twice. The Oilers actually showed some pride.
~fifty
A lot of good that did them. So, the Oilers are leading the series in moral victories?!?
– WhipperIf the Leafs showed that jam at least there wouldn’t be jerseys thrown on the ice. I can cheer for a team that gives it’s all and has some sack. The Leafs did not deserve their fans support in game 5 and 7.
June 12, 2025 at 8:59 pm #9164alex.TML
ParticipantHate to see Florida wins it all again.
June 12, 2025 at 9:03 pm #9168lief
ParticipantLeafs/Florida series the real finals.. apparently
June 12, 2025 at 9:04 pm #9169Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI bet Edmonton trades McDavid and signs Bennett.
Because that’s apparently what the Leafs need to do.
June 12, 2025 at 9:05 pm #9170alex.TML
ParticipantLeafs/Florida series the real finals.. apparently
If Leafs played Florida and Cup Final I doubt the game 1 and 2 would go the same way.
June 12, 2025 at 9:07 pm #9172alex.TML
ParticipantI bet Edmonton trades McDavid and signs Bennett.
Because that’s apparently what the Leafs need to do.There is no such move the Leafs or Oilers can make to have the team, which can beat
Florida in 7 game series.June 12, 2025 at 9:32 pm #9178Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThere is no such move the Leafs or Oilers can make to have the team, which can beat
Florida in 7 game series.I disagree. Leafs won 3 games and you can’t take that away from them. They’re as close as anybody. Definitely needs improvement but that team is closer than anybody so far.
June 12, 2025 at 9:36 pm #9179alex.TML
ParticipantI disagree. Leafs won 3 games and you can’t take that away from them. They’re as close as anybody. Definitely needs improvement but that team is closer than anybody so far.
Leafs won 3 games and it is a fact.
Leafs blown game 5 and 7 is a fact.
Leafs lost it when it most needed and it also the fact.
Panthers had very weak game one and two, especially Bobrovky and it also fact.
Not taking anything from Leafs, but Panthers on whole another level in playoffs and fact
that it was 7 games series does not change a lot.-
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June 12, 2025 at 10:00 pm #9188Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantLeafs won 3 games and it is a fact.
Leafs blown game 5 and 7 is a fact.
Leafs lost it when it most needed and it also the fact.
Panthers had very weak game one and two, especially Bobrovky and it also fact.
Not taking anything from Leafs, but Panthers on whole another level in playoffs and fact
that it was 7 games series does not change a lot.I agree, the Leafs had some bad games. But they were also 1 OT goal away in Game 3 from being up 3-0. They had breakaways in OT and didn’t seal the deal.
I think Bob at 37+, will be a disadvantage for Florida that the Leafs can overcome if they keep this team together and try again with the guys under 30 and add the right grit.
June 12, 2025 at 10:07 pm #9189alex.TML
ParticipantI agree, the Leafs had some bad games. But they were also 1 OT goal away in Game 3 from being up 3-0. They had breakaways in OT and didn’t seal the deal.
I think Bob at 37+, will be a disadvantage for Florida that the Leafs can overcome if they keep this team together and try again with the guys under 30 and add the right grit.
What bother me is how the team can add Marchandt, Schmidt and Johnes without spending a lot of assets.
Leafs have no picks and the pretty much the only way to improve is through overpaying in free agency.
Toronto is not preferable destination for free agents, especially when they have not much money to spend on it.
And I don’t think the Leafs had bad game 5 and 7, but rather Florida had their A game.-
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June 12, 2025 at 10:11 pm #9191Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWhat bother me is how the team can add Marchandt, Schmidt and Johnes without spending a lot of assets.
Leafs have no picks and the pretty much the only way to improve is through overpaying in free agency.
Toronto is not preferable destination for free agents, especially when they have not much money to spend on it.
And I don’t think the Leafs had bad game 5 and 7, but rather Florida had their A game.The Leafs are very bad at buying low and almost always buy high. They could have had Bennett years ago. They were stupid. They could have Perry too. Again, stupidity.
This is why they need to be aggressive and trade for their future players right now. Go get Jenner and McBain today so they can be your playoff warriors of tomorrow. Don’t waste money on 35+ year old losers or deadline overpayment.
June 12, 2025 at 10:15 pm #9192alex.TML
ParticipantThis is why they need to be aggressive and trade for their future players right now. Go get Jenner and McBain today so they can be your playoff warriors of tomorrow. Don’t waste money on 35+ year old losers or deadline overpayment.
I hope so. They have to make smart decisions. We will see how good the current management is and
what they will be able to do.June 13, 2025 at 12:55 am #9199Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantTavares will sign a value contract at 3 X 5.5. Most in the hockey world will say that this is a fantastic deal for a ppg player. A few will say it is just right. 1 person will say it is a terrible contract. This person is suffering from TDS. (not the political version, Tavares Derangement Syndrome) -habtard75
Tavares is not value at 5.5 AAV. He was useless, both offensively and defensively versus Florida. He’s 34. He provides no value at that price. Tavares’ “value” is 2 million AAV to the Leafs. Take it or enjoy Buffalo.
It’s cute that some of the slower Leafs fans have turned on Marner because “100 regular season points don’t matter” but his 13 playoff points (more career playoff points than Matthews, Nylander and Tavares too) weren’t enough. But Tavares’ 7 playoff points and total disappearance vs. Florida? That’s perfectly fine because he’s taking a “discount”. Sorry, but it’s not “value” or a “discount” if the player absolutely sucks vs the Panthers and will continue to get worse as he enters his late 30s.
This has nothing to do with any kind of derangement syndrome. These are objective facts. Tavares was overpaid as a UFA to join the Leafs. He was given 7 years with the best group of players he had ever played with. Seven fucking years. He won nothing. Nothing as an individual, nothing significant as the leader of this team. If this team is to truly “change the DNA”, then Tavares is the first or second (after Rielly) that must be removed from the team if they want to succeed.
Stick to the Habs because clearly you didn’t watch enough of the Leafs to understand.
June 13, 2025 at 1:09 am #9200Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantSabres appear to be ready to move on from Alex Tuch
To Buffalo
Robertson
Kampf/Jarncrok(or both for all I care)
Neimala/Steeves other prospect(Leafs have a number of prospects that they seem to have no use for)
4th round pickTo Toronto
Alex Tuch
2nd round pickTuch is a good player but acquiring Tuch will be expensive and at that price, it doesn’t help this team considering his contract situation. He’s not from Toronto and he’ll be a pending UFA. You’d basically be bringing in a guy who is a 1 year rental with little to no chance of re-signing him for cheap. To put him on the 3rd line, with 36 goals, would also not work at all. And if you put him with Matthews and he scores 40+, you have no chance of re-signing him for less than 10 million or maybe even more. The assets you would have to give up to get Tuch would stop the Leafs from being able to bring in what they really need, a 2C and a 3C who are two-way, physical, playoff style players. Those same assets should be used to acquire Jenner and McBain. You bring in two, two-way, hard hitting, 20 goal centers and the results would be way better.
Assuming the signings of Knies, Pathces and Tavares go through and Marner is gone
Try to sign Duchene/Bennet(I think Bennet contract is going to make him stupidly overpaid.
Knies Mathews Domi
McMann Duchene/Bennet Nylander
Patches Tavares Tuch
X Laughton XXXXFill the 4th line with big tough guys who can skate.
Patches should be load managed to get him to the playoffs healthy.. Play him every other gameAlternatively
Try to trade for the rights to Marco Rossi/Mason Mctavish
You are absolutely right about Bennett. He’s not going to sign in Toronto unless he’s stupidly overpaid. He won’t leave Florida.
That line-up is absolutely horrid defensively. Domi is not a top-line player and would force Matthews to have to work twice as hard defensively to make up for Domi.
That 2nd line, even worse defensively with Duchene than with Tavares. Don’t think Duchene scored a single 5v5 point in the playoffs this year. Tavares on the 3rd line is another disaster, especially with Pacioretty. You got two guys in their late 30s who are slow as molasses in January. Both that 2nd and 3rd line would be -10 each.
The Leafs lost against the Panthers because because their 2nd line got destroyed defensively and the Panthers 3rd line crushed the Leafs at both ends of the ice. Adding more defensive liabilities (while not subtracting the biggest defensive liabilities we had) and losing our best two-way forward for nothing is a recipe to get crushed in the 1st round again.
June 13, 2025 at 10:37 am #9233Scabeh
ParticipantWILL THESE LEAFS BE HEROS OR ZEROS?
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