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It would be fantastic to have players like Bennett and Marchand on the team but they’re not leaving. And they wouldn’t come for the correct amount or the correct number of years if they did.
it was rumored that Bennett was either offered / was to sign an extension with Florida 8×8. Marchand was rumored to be asking for 8M as well but not sure on the length of the contract.
Finding the next Wilson/Bennett/Marchand type player going to hard for the Leafs with the lack of pick in the next few years. Teams that do have them aren’t given them up unless you overpay to acquire them.
it was rumored that Bennett was either offered / was to sign an extension with Florida 8×8. Marchand was rumored to be asking for 8M as well but not sure on the length of the contract.
Finding the next Wilson/Bennett/Marchand type player going to hard for the Leafs with the lack of pick in the next few years. Teams that do have them aren’t given them up unless you overpay to acquire them.
The leafs have found a rareish unicorn type player in Knies. power forward. 30 goal scorer (well 29)
but Florida didnt draft Bennett or Marchard. they just plugged them into a good team. Leafs can do the same
Severson is only entering the third season of an eight-year, $50 million contract signed as part of a sign-and-trade from the New Jersey Devils in 2023.
Humm…. did not know this was a sign-and-trade deal.senstrolltwo
ParticipantThe leafs have found a rareish unicorn type player in Knies. power forward. 30 goal scorer (well 29)
but Florida didnt draft Bennett or Marchard. they just plugged them into a good team. Leafs can do the same
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Except Marchand was inserted into the 3rd line of a well oiled machine…..the leafs arent well oiled…..and he’ll probably playing too high up in the line up….which has been a problem with the leafs for years.This site is working again…ok.
Except Marchand was inserted into the 3rd line of a well oiled machine…..the leafs arent well oiled…..and he’ll probably playing too high up in the line up….which has been a problem with the leafs for years.right which is why now they should add better depth with the space from Marner…and possibly Tavares.
it might not happen in one off season, but they have to start
it was rumored that Bennett was either offered / was to sign an extension with Florida 8×8. Marchand was rumored to be asking for 8M as well but not sure on the length of the contract.
Finding the next Wilson/Bennett/Marchand type player going to hard for the Leafs with the lack of pick in the next few years. Teams that do have them aren’t given them up unless you overpay to acquire them.
Boone Jenner and Jake McBain. The “next” ones exist. Leafs just are too stupid to acquire them. They’ll throw away 10 years of 1st round picks on all the wrong players.
Severson is only entering the third season of an eight-year, $50 million contract signed as part of a sign-and-trade from the New Jersey Devils in 2023.
Humm…. did not know this was a sign-and-trade deal.It’s not happening for many reasons. The first being, the way Marner was treated, he’s leaving with one finger on each hand up. The next reason, he might not even want an 8 year deal. Like Matthews, he might go for 4 or 5 years. The final reason, sign and trades almost never happen. And the rare time that it did, it yielded a 3rd round pick. What the fuck are the Leafs going to do for a 3rd round pick? Either trade it for some useless plug or draft a useless plug. Either way, the Leafs are losing a 100 point, two-way, career playoff point leader for absolutely nothing.
Absolutely nobody should be surprised why this team can’t win a Cup for nearly 6 decades. Bad management, bad decisions, bad results. Garbage in, garbage out.
it was rumored that Bennett was either offered / was to sign an extension with Florida 8×8. Marchand was rumored to be asking for 8M as well but not sure on the length of the contract.
Finding the next Wilson/Bennett/Marchand type player going to hard for the Leafs with the lack of pick in the next few years. Teams that do have them aren’t given them up unless you overpay to acquire them.
~dmntedRight now, Florida has 8 forwards, 5 defenseman and 1 goalie for next year. Their farm system is exceptionally light – maybe Sourdif slots in for them next year. He’s an RFA but he’d likely come in under $1m.
But really they need to sign at least 3 forwards, 2 defenseman and a goalie. Because of Bob, they’ll probably go cheap in net and get a guy like Samsonov, or maybe re-run Lyon or Kahkonen. They have to resign RFA Samoskevich after a 15G, 31pt rookie campaign. Maybe $1.5 or $2m?
The big names here are Ekblad, Marchand and Bennett. If they decide to forego Ekblad, they can likely take a run at both Marchand and Bennett, resign Samoskevich, compliment the Forwards and have about $4m left to sign 2 defensemen. I’m guessing Schmidt is priced out considering he was an $800k reclamation project.
Their balance will definitely allow them to keep one of those names. If I were them I’d make it Ekblad.
Right now, Florida has 8 forwards, 5 defenseman and 1 goalie for next year. Their farm system is exceptionally light – maybe Sourdif slots in for them next year. He’s an RFA but he’d likely come in under $1m.
But really they need to sign at least 3 forwards, 2 defenseman and a goalie. Because of Bob, they’ll probably go cheap in net and get a guy like Samsonov, or maybe re-run Lyon or Kahkonen. They have to resign RFA Samoskevich after a 15G, 31pt rookie campaign. Maybe $1.5 or $2m?
The big names here are Ekblad, Marchand and Bennett. If they decide to forego Ekblad, they can likely take a run at both Marchand and Bennett, resign Samoskevich, compliment the Forwards and have about $4m left to sign 2 defensemen. I’m guessing Schmidt is priced out considering he was an $800k reclamation project.
Their balance will definitely allow them to keep one of those names. If I were them I’d make it Ekblad.
I agree, I’d dump Ekblad if I were Florida and forced to do so but he could come cheaper than expected. His offensive stats were pretty bad, his positive drug test my scare off some teams and his history of concussions aren’t to be forgotten either. His best days may be behind him but he may settle to take a discount to stay in a good situation on a long term deal that keeps his cap hit low.
Then again, you could sign a guy like Burns to replace him for a fraction of the price and risk, which is what I’d hope the Leafs do to solve their missing RHD problem in the short term.
Because of the tax rate in Florida, the weather, why would any of them want to leave a guaranteed winner with a window wide open to win again? Just the same way some other players took discounts already and Tampa Bay players took discounts, it’s likely these guys see a good thing and will keep it together.
They could also move guys like Rodrigues to make space for the more important pieces which would give them 22 AAV instead of 19.
Also, remember, now that Florida is a proven winner, there will be many players happy to take less to sign there to fill those “reclamation” slots like Schmidt took up so filling up the lower end of the roster could be really cheap and easy.
here are some of Doms contract projections, or value.
Tavares 7.9
Bennett 6.6
Marchand 5.1
Pkane 3.5
Tanev 2.2 (his projections look terrible)
Toews 1.9
Donato 4.2getting JT for 5 or 5.5 would be a no brainer imo.
but you could fit Marchand, Kane, Tanev and Toews for less than Marner
if those numbers were realisticI agree, I’d dump Ekblad if I were Florida and forced to do so but he could come cheaper than expected. His offensive stats were pretty bad, his positive drug test my scare off some teams and his history of concussions aren’t to be forgotten either. His best days may be behind him but he may settle to take a discount to stay in a good situation on a long term deal that keeps his cap hit low.
Then again, you could sign a guy like Burns to replace him for a fraction of the price and risk, which is what I’d hope the Leafs do to solve their missing RHD problem in the short term.
Because of the tax rate in Florida, the weather, why would any of them want to leave a guaranteed winner with a window wide open to win again? Just the same way some other players took discounts already and Tampa Bay players took discounts, it’s likely these guys see a good thing and will keep it together.
They could also move guys like Rodrigues to make space for the more important pieces which would give them 22 AAV instead of 19.
Also, remember, now that Florida is a proven winner, there will be many players happy to take less to sign there to fill those “reclamation” slots like Schmidt took up so filling up the lower end of the roster could be really cheap and easy.
~Unholy_Goalie41 year old Brent Burns is not a solution anymore. If you look at almost all underlying numbers on Carolina, he was being propped up by the forwards’ aggressive forecheck and by Slavin as a partner for 95% of his minutes. This year his giveaway totals doubled / 60 compared to previous years and his takeaway numbers shrunk. If you want to be good at defense, Brent Burns is not going to provide any modicum of a solution any more.
While I recognize that Florida could insulate him with a similarly heavy forecheck, I don’t think Zito wants guys he’s insulating. He wants guys who can contribute in the right system with the right style around them. Burns being a giveaway machine in his waning years is definitely not going to help with that. They’d be better off trying Klingberg. This is not a shot at who Brent Burns was – who was an exceptional top pair defenseman. It’s a commentary on his age and his reflective play this year.
here are some of Doms contract projections, or value.
Tavares 7.9
Bennett 6.6
Marchand 5.1
Pkane 3.5
Tanev 2.2 (his projections look terrible)
Toews 1.9
Donato 4.2getting JT for 5 or 5.5 would be a no brainer imo.
but you could fit Marchand, Kane, Tanev and Toews for less than Marner
if those numbers were realisticWhat is your source for this because they are hilariously low.
Tavares is not worth a penny more than 2 million to the Leafs. All the idiots running Marner out of town bitch about his “playoff disappearance” yet never address the issue that Tavares was offensively useless in 6 of 7 games against Florida and a constantly defensive liability in all 7 games.
Bennett is leading the playoffs in goals. There’s no chance he gets a dime less than 9 from an outside team. He’d probably take 7 or 8 in Florida because it’s a good situation.
Marchand, same as Bennett, is playing out of his mind in the Final. He’s old but a team out there looking to make a playoff run is going to throw a lot more than 5.1. No chance he joins a garbage situation like the Leafs for that price.
Patrick Kane is physically broken. He’s never healthy anymore. And he hasn’t had a good playoff run in 10 years. He’s offensively equipped to replace 60% of Marner’s offense. That price works.
Toews is going to Winnipeg and is a huge question mark after so much time away. He should be playing for the same as Pacioretty which is basically league minimum.
Tanev is overrated. Whatever he’s worth is meaningless to the Leafs. He’s only useful if he takes way less to play for his brother. Otherwise, we end up with another Kampf or Jarnkrok where the Leafs are paying way too much for a bottom-six plug.
Donato is a giant mistake waiting to happen to some stupid team. Hope it’s not the Leafs.
Nobody is going to be able to replace Marner via discounted spare parts. This team is fucked.
the numbers are from
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6420056/2025/06/17/nhl-free-agency-wingers/?source=user_shared_articleJust value projections. not what they will get, some will get overpaid. some wont..
Tavares is worth 5 no problem, the difference between him and Marner is that one will cost 14 and provide 13 mil value and one will cost 5.5 and provide 8 mil value
Nobody is running Marner out of town, hes a big boy, he can make his own decisions.he is running his own ass out of town
Marner wont make a difference to this team winning. time to get over it and move on
41 year old Brent Burns is not a solution anymore. If you look at almost all underlying numbers on Carolina, he was being propped up by the forwards’ aggressive forecheck and by Slavin as a partner for 95% of his minutes. This year his giveaway totals doubled / 60 compared to previous years and his takeaway numbers shrunk. If you want to be good at defense, Brent Burns is not going to provide any modicum of a solution any more.
While I recognize that Florida could insulate him with a similarly heavy forecheck, I don’t think Zito wants guys he’s insulating. He wants guys who can contribute in the right system with the right style around them. Burns being a giveaway machine in his waning years is definitely not going to help with that. They’d be better off trying Klingberg. This is not a shot at who Brent Burns was – who was an exceptional top pair defenseman. It’s a commentary on his age and his reflective play this year.
Last year he had only 56 giveaways and Orlov had 36. This year, he had 104 and Orlov had 98. I think that has more to do with a change in team style or whomever is recording the stats is doing something very different. But I mostly agree that Burns playing almost 21 min night as a top pair D is no longer feasible. That’s way too much for him at this point in his career.
But he could play 16-18 minutes and provide value in Florida or in Toronto if used in the right situations, like the PP. The Panthers already replaced Ekblad with Jones. At this point, they’re looking for somebody to be on the 2nd/3rd pair. They’ve taken guys who looked “finished” like Montour and Schmidt before and turned them completely around. I’d take Burns on the 3rd pair on the PP on 1 year deal if he’s cheap.
the numbers are from
https://http://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6420056/2025/06/17/nhl-free-agency-wingers/?source=user_shared_articleMakes sense why it’s such garbage now.
Just value projections. not what they will get, some will get overpaid. some wont..
Terrible projections.
Tavares is worth 5 no problem, the difference between him and Marner is that one will cost 14 and provide 13 mil value and one will cost 5.5 and provide 8 mil value
Not worth a penny more than 2. He sucks balls in the playoffs vs. the Panthers, he sucks defensively and he’s old. If the goal is to save the most money, then Columbus would be winning the Cup every year. Facts are facts, Tavares sucks. It’s so funny though watching people call Marner a soft regular season only player yet he has more career playoff points than Tavares and played better against tougher competition. Tavares provides negative value in the playoffs. That’s the part that the idiots just can’t understand.
Nobody is running Marner out of town, hes a big boy, he can make his own decisions.he is running his own ass out of town
The media and idiots fans are definitely running him out of town, making him the scapegoat for the failures of management.
Marner wont make a difference to this team winning. time to get over it and move on
Enjoy watching Marner win a Cup somewhere else as the Leafs continue to throw away great players for nothing. Just like Kadri and Hyman, Marner will make the Leafs management and the morons who support their decisions pay for their stupidity.
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