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June 18, 2025 at 2:33 pm #10208
23BigQuestions
ParticipantIf Reinhart was a UFA this year, he’d be asking for 16 AAV from the Leafs and 12 AAV from Florida. He became a UFA at the wrong time.
Everybody also said “you can’t win a Cup spending 10 million on a goalie” when they signed Bob – The Goof
Here he is again – trying to disguise his opinion and hypotheticals as facts. I feel like he thinks if he posts crap in great lengths, folks won’t bother reading it all. I am impressed he’s only using 2 alts in here so far. So maybe he’s growing up? No more nuggies and Mountain Dew – now full tenders and Pepsi!…his mommy still cuts the tenders for him obviously – let’s not get crazy.
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June 18, 2025 at 2:47 pm #10212Unholy_Goalie
Participantthe NHL doesn’t doesn’t care about this. It’s moot point as the NHL will not fix this.
I’m not saying the NHL does care or will fix it. But the players care about what they take home and that factors into what they ask for from certain teams.
People can’t sit there and pretend like the guys in Florida are “good boys taking discounts” and players signing in Toronto are “greedy” because the reality of what they take home is different than the cap hit.
This boils down to the Leafs absolutely sucking at drafting, developing and managing their assets. They traded 10 years of 1st round picks away, they don’t develop enough impact players, they let their best players walk for nothing and they bring back garbage players because they’ll take a “discount” so they can afford to sign more garbage players.
Garbage in, garbage out.
June 18, 2025 at 2:52 pm #10214Fakepartofme
ParticipantI just got banned at HB until August 1st because I said.
“Lets get these garbage playoffs over with.
Frank Paul Maurice”WTF.
June 18, 2025 at 2:55 pm #10215Fakepartofme
ParticipantUG
Enjoy watching this, 2.0.Watching what?
Marner becoming a second/third liner on another team and riding the goat tails of actual playoff performers to a cup victory?No team close in the hunt for cup will sign marner to the contract he wants. If he wants $13 – 14m, he’ll sign with team thats still 3 – 4 years out.
Marner is gone.
Get over it.June 18, 2025 at 2:55 pm #10216PrinceLH
Participantthe NHL doesn’t doesn’t care about this. It’s moot point as the NHL will not fix this.
It’s a shame. It’s not just the Canadian teams that suffer, but the Rangers, Isles, Devils, etc, play in Blue, overtaxed states. Bettman is a clown, to allow this to continue. He’d rather do fellatio on the new bidder for the Atlanta Stars and Bars, than fix this inequity and keep another Canadian franchise from gaining entry into the NHL. He needs to leave now!
June 18, 2025 at 3:03 pm #10219Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWatching what?
Marner becoming a second/third liner on another team and riding the goat tails of actual playoff performers to a cup victory?No team close in the hunt for cup will sign marner to the contract he wants. If he wants $13 – 14m, he’ll sign with team thats still 3 – 4 years out.
Marner is gone.
Get over it.Watching you be wrong, as usual.
June 18, 2025 at 3:13 pm #10220senstrolltwo
ParticipantHere he is again – trying to disguise his opinion and hypotheticals as facts. I feel like he thinks if he posts crap in great lengths, folks won’t bother reading it all.
pretty much, “They traded 10 years of 1st round picks”
the leafs have had a 1st round pick in 7 of the last 10 drafts. And the 3 they didn’t, these were the 3 first picks Robertson, Knies and Minton.The leafs drafting is average and probably a little better than the average team.
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June 18, 2025 at 3:17 pm #10222Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantIt’s a shame. It’s not just the Canadian teams that suffer, but the Rangers, Isles, Devils, etc, play in Blue, overtaxed states. Bettman is a clown, to allow this to continue. He’d rather do fellatio on the new bidder for the Atlanta Stars and Bars, than fix this inequity and keep another Canadian franchise from gaining entry into the NHL. He needs to leave now!
The Leafs fucked themselves with the Tavares contract. They have nobody to blame but themselves. They’ll make the same mistake again by keeping him for a 2nd futile contract and not trading Rielly.
They trade 10 years worth of 1st round picks, they can’t draft or develop enough impact players and they let great players leave for nothing.
Leafs are run by idiots. Different names, same results.
June 18, 2025 at 3:25 pm #10224Dozzer
Participantthe NHL doesn’t doesn’t care about this. It’s moot point as the NHL will not fix this.
its also far more complex.
For instance look at someone like Matthews. He took $14.43 million on July 1st while living in Arizona as a bonus at 39.5% taxation. He earned only $775K throughout the season.
During the season you are paid game by game. So the only location he is paid high earning is Ontario where he plays 43 games (2 in Ottawa). So he has to pay 53.53% on $406,402.44 which equals $217,547.23.
The remainder of the $368,597.56 basically doesn’t get taxed at all because it’s broken down over all the states and provinces into low earnings. 4 games in Florida during a season is a big one for instance and that’s still just $37,804.88.
He only makes $9,451.22 a game at league minimum. So if you’re wondering why bonuses are used, this is why. My curiousity is how the bonus is being used, those ways are what is beyond what I know lol
June 18, 2025 at 3:37 pm #10229Cush29
ParticipantChanging gears for a moment if I was a Sens fan I don’t think I’d want to see this. Sure it’s your brother but no shot I’d want him on camera, this happy about going to party with THAT team. I mean how can you not think the recruiting of Brady doesn’t go into high gear from the Panthers players while they all get drunk AF after a cup win and he can’t look at that and think “ya, I want this with my brother instead of living and playing in Ottawa”.
June 18, 2025 at 3:41 pm #10230Unholy_Goalie
Participantpretty much, “They traded 10 years of 1st round picks”
the leafs have had a 1st round pick in 7 of the last 10 drafts. And the 3 they didn’t, these were the 3 first picks Robertson, Knies and Minton.The leafs drafting is average and probably a little better than the average team.
Wrong again, as usual.
2009 – Kadri, traded for garbage. Won a Cup.
2015 – Marner, will walk for nothing. Traded down from 24th to pick Dermott and Bracco, passed on Konecny.
2017 – Liljegren – Traded for Matt Benning; no impact player.
2018 – Sandin – Traded for future 1st round pick. Still no impact player.
2019 – No 1st round pick. Traded for Muzzin. Did nothing. Got overpaid. Retired broken. Drafted Robertson. He mostly sucks, not an impact player.
2020 – Traded 1st round pick to dump Marleau. Traded Kapanen for a 1st round pick. Made a bad pick, poor guy died. No impact player.
2021 – No 1st round pick. Traded for 11 games of Nick Foligno.
2022 – No 1st round pick. Traded to dump Mrazek. Drafted Minten. Traded him too.
2023 – Traded for 24 games of O’Reilly rental. Picked Cowan with the pick they got for Sandin. Still no impact player.
2024 – Traded down. Picked Danford. No impact player yet.
2025 – Traded for McCabe. 2nd pair D.
2026 – Traded for Carlo. Another 2nd pair D.
2027 – Traded for Laughton. Retarded trade.So 10+ years of 1st round picks have indeed been traded or wasted, most of them got us garbage in return. Carlo, McCabe, Laughton (1 year rental), Cowan, Danford. That’s what the Leafs have to show for 10 years of 1st round picks.
The Leafs being “average” isn’t going to win them shit especially when they throw away as many 1st round picks as they have.
Florida traded their 1st and 2nd round pick capital for Marchand and Seth Jones. That’s what your top picks are actually supposed to get you in return. Not a bunch of garbage rentals or spare parts for 10 years of trash.
June 18, 2025 at 3:42 pm #10231dmnted
ParticipantSo if you’re wondering why bonuses are used, this is why. My curiousity is how the bonus is being used, those ways are what is beyond what I know lol
speaking of bonuses. JT won his case vs. The CRA as The CRA did not want to disclose the audit criteria errr something like that. So the judge dropped the case.
June 18, 2025 at 3:48 pm #10232Unholy_Goalie
Participantspeaking of bonuses. JT won his case vs. The CRA as The CRA did not want to disclose the audit criteria errr something like that. So the judge dropped the case.
For future cap crunching and tax dodging, the Leafs should set up a shell corp. in no income states, get their Canadian players US citizenship and pay them big signing bonus’ like they did with Matthews. If the NHL won’t change the rules, then the Leafs have to get creative and find ways around them.
June 18, 2025 at 4:00 pm #10233dmnted
ParticipantThat why the Leafs get some of their player(s) into commercials.
Nashville is a nice place for tax evasion since that state has no state income tax.June 18, 2025 at 4:16 pm #10236Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThat why the Leafs get some of their player(s) into commercials.
Those bullshit commercials don’t pay nearly what people think they do. And again, 55% of it is taken away.
Nashville is a nice place for tax evasion since that state has no state income tax.
Utah, Florida, Tampa, Nashville, Dallas, Vegas…lots of great options for players. Don’t blame them one bit for leaving because it’s by far, way better to live in all those places too.
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