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  • #61959
    Fakepartofme
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    Bellinger was never coming to Toronto and it doesnt look like the Jays wanted Bo back specially at that price.
    Bo was never a power hitter but the Jays could miss his average. He wasnt great a D so that is easily replaceable.
    If Vladdy and santander have better reg and Oka simply hits for average and brings in 15 – 20 homeruns, that is already an improvement on Bo.

    With Gausman, bieber, Cease, yesavage, ponce, berrios along with Lauer and Francis, their starting pitching is set and able to succeed with through injuries.

    I’d like to see another bat as other players could have down years.

    #61777
    Unholy_Goalie
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    The Jays lost out on Bo, Tucker and Bellinger so the Jays won’t be able to outscore their problems next year. So Plan B is just going to have to be to outpitch everybody.

    Step one, trade Berrios. With the money he is making, you could bring back Bassitt or Scherzer and with some luck, maybe both.

    Scherzer is starting to look like a “wait and see” signing. The Jays could cut to the chase and lock him in now, or they could wait and risk losing him later. I’d rather reel him in now because he’s like an extra pitching coach for Yesavage to be around as he plays a full season for the first time in the MLB. That, alone, would be worth the contract.

    Next, they should take the money they were willing to spend on Bo / Tucker and bring in Valdez who is a big impact lefty that the Jays really need. Get Vlad Jr. to spin some D.R. magic. If the Jays end up losing one of Gausman or Bieber next year, they can rely on still having an elite lefty long term. The same logic was applied for signing Cease. Cease, Valdez, Gausman (or Bieber), Yesavage is still a strong long term rotation.

    Cease, Valdez and Gausman are your guaranteed starters then Bieber, Yesavage, Scherzer and Bassitt can platoon between 4th, 5th, 6th and the bullpen. Bieber is coming off Tommy John, Yesavage is a rookie, Scherzer is old and Bassitt is up there in age too. A lot more teams, including the Dodgers, have used 6 man rotations to keep their arms fresh and healthy. The Jays would be wise to do the same. Keep the older guys fresh and give Yesavage room for error. For the playoffs, the best 3 guys start and the rest hit the bullpen, just like they did last year.

    #61337
    WHIPPER
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    Dominquez off to the White Sox. That’s a shame, he was a flame thrower.

    #61324
    WHIPPER
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    Jays are spending ridiculous money on payroll already.
    3rd highest in the league plus a huge luxury tax penalty on top of that.
    Jays improved their staring pitching
    Jays improved their Relief pitching
    If Santander gets back to hitting a minimum 30hrs and Oka hits at least 19 HR’s, their batting will have improved as well.

    But Im sure, some will still whine

    For some, that’s their whole schtick. Jays are going to be fun to watch this year, can’t wait till they get going.

    #61323
    Fakepartofme
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    Jays are spending ridiculous money on payroll already.
    3rd highest in the league plus a huge luxury tax penalty on top of that.
    Jays improved their staring pitching
    Jays improved their Relief pitching
    If Santander gets back to hitting a minimum 30hrs and Oka hits at least 19 HR’s, their batting will have improved as well.

    But Im sure, some will still whine

    #61063
    senstrolltwo
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    Okamoto projects to be the AL hits leader as a rookie

    no, thats dumb

    they both project to be around 2.5 war 120ops+, so the same on field Value. Bo needed to play 2b also to really make sense for the Jays which also reduces his value

    #60877
    Unholy_Goalie
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    No its January 20th, we have to whine that the Jays didnt want to pay ridiculous prices for players who arent worth the money.

    Good off season so far for the Jays, most active of any team.
    Still need another bat

    Again, “ridiculous prices” and “worth the money” is whatever it takes to compete with the Dodgers.

    I’ll make this as simple as possible for your retarded brain.

    Dodgers beat the Jays in the World Series. Dodgers got better. Jays got worse. Dodgers win World Series rematch. Jays lose again.

    If the Jays want to win the World Series and take full advantage of their current opportunity, that requires spending “ridiculous” money because if they win, it will always be “worth it”.

    Or, do what Toronto loves to do best, come in 2nd place and pretend they don’t need Ohtani or any of the best players.

    #60846
    Fakepartofme
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    the Jays signed Okamoto who projects to have pretty much the same value as Bo. for 1/3 the price. They are projected as the #2 team.
    No team was going to out spend the Dodgers, Word is Jays offered 350m/10 for Tucker, took their shot.

    the Jays have to worry about the Dodgers only if both make it back to the world Series, which is extremely unlikely, also its January. a ton happens between now and October.
    What the teams are at the moment is now that you will have 6 months from now.

    Its should be another fun season

    No its January 20th, we have to whine that the Jays didnt want to pay ridiculous prices for players who arent worth the money.

    Good off season so far for the Jays, most active of any team.
    Still need another bat

    #60715
    Unholy_Goalie
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    the Jays signed Okamoto who projects to have pretty much the same value as Bo. for 1/3 the price. They are projected as the #2 team.
    No team was going to out spend the Dodgers, Word is Jays offered 350m/10 for Tucker, took their shot.

    the Jays have to worry about the Dodgers only if both make it back to the world Series, which is extremely unlikely, also its January. a ton happens between now and October.
    What the teams are at the moment is now that you will have 6 months from now.

    Its should be another fun season

    Okamoto projects to be the AL hits leader as a rookie? I doubt it. I’m glad they finally signed a Japanese prospect but he’s unknown until he proves otherwise which is a gamble to rely on him to replace a proven star player.

    Why not offer that deal to Bichette? I don’t blame them for not getting Tucker, I wouldn’t take 10 years in Toronto either but Bichette they could have locked in with that same offer. He wanted 300 million and that’s how they could have kept him.

    Is it as unlikely as the Panthers and the Oilers meeting in the Final two years in a row? If the Jays run into them again, it’s another loss and that’s what they needed to prepare for. If they are built to beat the Dodgers, they can beat anybody. But now, there’s serious doubt.

    A lot can still change but most of their best options have disappeared. The Jays are going to need a lot of guys to play above their ahead again. That’s the part that is unlikely.

    #60649
    senstrolltwo
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    the Jays signed Okamoto who projects to have pretty much the same value as Bo. for 1/3 the price. They are projected as the #2 team.
    No team was going to out spend the Dodgers, Word is Jays offered 350m/10 for Tucker, took their shot.

    the Jays have to worry about the Dodgers only if both make it back to the world Series, which is extremely unlikely, also its January. a ton happens between now and October.
    What the teams are at the moment is now that you will have 6 months from now.

    Its should be another fun season

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