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  • #63235
    senstrolltwo
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    pitchers and catchers report to spring training Tuesday February 10
    in case anyone celebrates

    #62047
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Unless you pay to have all stars at every position which only one team in the league does.

    And only one team wins. Such a Canadacuck. Maybe the Dodgers will share the World Series with the Jays if they ask nicely since “only one team” can invest in the best players available. No, retard, only one team is WILLING to spend more money to win. The Jays spend money but don’t want to go all the way. They could take the money they wanted to give to Tucker and give it to another top player. But they won’t. And that’s why the Dodgers won last time and why they will next time too.

    #62044
    Unholy_Goalie
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    It really was. No point in comparing our offseason to the Dodgers, they just do whatever TF they want. Compared to just about every other team in the league, the Jays killed it. Run with this team, see what needs to be tweaked around the trade deadline, then target guys to fill those holes.

    It takes a lot of things to go your way to get to the big show, and a lot went right for the Jays last year. Hopefully, they can spark that magic again for another run.

    The Dodgers beat the Jays. The Dodgers beat the Jays in the offseason. Why will the World Series result be any different? The Jays need to do more if they expect to actually win this time. It’s basic.

    #62036
    Fakepartofme
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    It really was. No point in comparing our offseason to the Dodgers, they just do whatever TF they want. Compared to just about every other team in the league, the Jays killed it. Run with this team, see what needs to be tweaked around the trade deadline, then target guys to fill those holes.

    It takes a lot of things to go your way to get to the big show, and a lot went right for the Jays last year. Hopefully, they can spark that magic again for another run.[/quote]

    Exactly.
    Unless you pay to have all stars at every position which only one team in the league does.

    #62021
    WHIPPER
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    Yup. In his presser he didnt seem to keen on staying past one year.
    Its the mets, so they have a way of choking, we’ll see.

    I dont think the Jays will be adding anymore big salary unless they move some salary out. The “extra” money allocated for Tucker will probably go back into their coffers.
    Maybe add another cheap RP, or a Brendan Donovan trade?

    Great off season for the Jays though. Hopefully they get another bat.

    It really was. No point in comparing our offseason to the Dodgers, they just do whatever TF they want. Compared to just about every other team in the league, the Jays killed it. Run with this team, see what needs to be tweaked around the trade deadline, then target guys to fill those holes.

    It takes a lot of things to go your way to get to the big show, and a lot went right for the Jays last year. Hopefully, they can spark that magic again for another run.

    #62006
    Fakepartofme
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    Bo might only be a 1 year deal with NYM.

    Makes sense for Bellinger to go back to NYY, he is suited for their silly stadium.

    I really wish the Jays got/would get Mason Miller ..would be so fun to watch 104mph

    Yup. In his presser he didnt seem to keen on staying past one year.
    Its the mets, so they have a way of choking, we’ll see.

    I dont think the Jays will be adding anymore big salary unless they move some salary out. The “extra” money allocated for Tucker will probably go back into their coffers.
    Maybe add another cheap RP, or a Brendan Donovan trade?

    Great off season for the Jays though. Hopefully they get another bat.

    #62002
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Bo might only be a 1 year deal with NYM.

    Makes sense for Bellinger to go back to NYY, he is suited for their silly stadium.

    I really wish the Jays got/would get Mason Miller ..would be so fun to watch 104mph

    I really wish the Jays got/would get Ohtani but I was told we don’t need him.

    #61997
    senstrolltwo
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    Bo might only be a 1 year deal with NYM.

    Makes sense for Bellinger to go back to NYY, he is suited for their silly stadium.

    I really wish the Jays got/would get Mason Miller ..would be so fun to watch 104mph

    #61959
    Fakepartofme
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    Bellinger was never coming to Toronto and it doesnt look like the Jays wanted Bo back specially at that price.
    Bo was never a power hitter but the Jays could miss his average. He wasnt great a D so that is easily replaceable.
    If Vladdy and santander have better reg and Oka simply hits for average and brings in 15 – 20 homeruns, that is already an improvement on Bo.

    With Gausman, bieber, Cease, yesavage, ponce, berrios along with Lauer and Francis, their starting pitching is set and able to succeed with through injuries.

    I’d like to see another bat as other players could have down years.

    #61777
    Unholy_Goalie
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    The Jays lost out on Bo, Tucker and Bellinger so the Jays won’t be able to outscore their problems next year. So Plan B is just going to have to be to outpitch everybody.

    Step one, trade Berrios. With the money he is making, you could bring back Bassitt or Scherzer and with some luck, maybe both.

    Scherzer is starting to look like a “wait and see” signing. The Jays could cut to the chase and lock him in now, or they could wait and risk losing him later. I’d rather reel him in now because he’s like an extra pitching coach for Yesavage to be around as he plays a full season for the first time in the MLB. That, alone, would be worth the contract.

    Next, they should take the money they were willing to spend on Bo / Tucker and bring in Valdez who is a big impact lefty that the Jays really need. Get Vlad Jr. to spin some D.R. magic. If the Jays end up losing one of Gausman or Bieber next year, they can rely on still having an elite lefty long term. The same logic was applied for signing Cease. Cease, Valdez, Gausman (or Bieber), Yesavage is still a strong long term rotation.

    Cease, Valdez and Gausman are your guaranteed starters then Bieber, Yesavage, Scherzer and Bassitt can platoon between 4th, 5th, 6th and the bullpen. Bieber is coming off Tommy John, Yesavage is a rookie, Scherzer is old and Bassitt is up there in age too. A lot more teams, including the Dodgers, have used 6 man rotations to keep their arms fresh and healthy. The Jays would be wise to do the same. Keep the older guys fresh and give Yesavage room for error. For the playoffs, the best 3 guys start and the rest hit the bullpen, just like they did last year.

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