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January 17, 2026 at 1:15 pm #60332
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ParticipantJays are better than they started last year but not better than the Dodgers. And that’s what actually matters.
Yesavage is still a rookie, he’s an unknown until he plays an entire season and hitters learn more about him. So to call him an improvement over Scherzer is a leap taken by a Homer. They should bring back Scherzer or Bassitt as insurance for this very reason.
Ponce hasn’t pitched in the MLB in a very long time. There’s no guarantee he’s any better than Scherzer, Bassitt or even a quality starting pitcher in the MLB either.
A full season of Bieber and Cease will make a difference but not having an elite closer will hurt them when it matters most. Also, no starting LHP which is a problem.
The Jays offense is not better without one of the best hitters in the MLB. Losing Bo is a big blow to the offense. And the Jays had a lot of guys play above their head last year. Replication of that is very difficult without any significant replacements.
The Jays are still a good team but they couldn’t beat the Dodgers before, they won’t be able to beat them now either. They lost the offseason arms race. The goal is to win the World Series. The Jays might still be better than everyone else but they’ll still be 2nd place to the Dodgers. That’s the issue.
January 17, 2026 at 12:45 pm #60329CanadaCup
ParticipantNeither Bo n’or tucker are worth the money.
See ya later and good riddance.So if Bo doesn’t hit that home run in Game 7, the Jays have no chance to win that game. Losing him and not replacing him makes the Jays worse.
But then, to make it worse, Tucker, who is even better than Bo, joins the team that is already better than the Jays and stole away the guy pegged to replace Bo’s bat.
Not only did the Jays get worse, the Dodgers got significantly better when they were already the better team that won the World Series just like when they signed and elite closer and the Jays did not.
“Worth the money” means doing whatever it takes to beat the Dodgers and the Jays “overpaying” would have been worth the money to remain competitive. What happened today makes the Jays significantly less competitive to win the World Series. They could still be a great team, still go back to the World Series but the Dodgers would still beat them in the end.
Winning the World Series is “worth the money”. This is as retarded as Jays fans thinking they didn’t need Ohtani. They obviously did and still do.
Jays are a better team than when they started last season. Gausman, Cease, Bieber, Yesavage, Ponce is a significant upgrade over Gausman, Scherzer, Bassitt, Berrios and Francis. Bullpen is much better.
Jays were ranked 22nd going into last season. They upgraded during the season. They’re top 5 now and they’ll upgrade during this season. They need a bat and potentially a closer depending on how bullpen plays out until the deadline.
With Tucker Dodgers are on a different level but paying $60M with opt outs after years 2 and 3 makes no sense for the Blue Jays. He’s not worth anything close to that (Judge is $40, Soto is $51). They need someone who’s going to be around for a while.
January 16, 2026 at 11:30 pm #60289Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantNeither Bo n’or tucker are worth the money.
See ya later and good riddance.So if Bo doesn’t hit that home run in Game 7, the Jays have no chance to win that game. Losing him and not replacing him makes the Jays worse.
But then, to make it worse, Tucker, who is even better than Bo, joins the team that is already better than the Jays and stole away the guy pegged to replace Bo’s bat.
Not only did the Jays get worse, the Dodgers got significantly better when they were already the better team that won the World Series just like when they signed and elite closer and the Jays did not.
“Worth the money” means doing whatever it takes to beat the Dodgers and the Jays “overpaying” would have been worth the money to remain competitive. What happened today makes the Jays significantly less competitive to win the World Series. They could still be a great team, still go back to the World Series but the Dodgers would still beat them in the end.
Winning the World Series is “worth the money”. This is as retarded as Jays fans thinking they didn’t need Ohtani. They obviously did and still do.
January 16, 2026 at 3:08 pm #60244Mr. Sir
Participant42m for Bo 😂
60m for Sucker 😂What a joke
We have lots of trade bait available
No rushJanuary 16, 2026 at 1:45 pm #60220Fakepartofme
ParticipantNeither Bo n’or tucker are worth the money.
See ya later and good riddance.January 16, 2026 at 12:16 pm #60211Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantBye bye Bo to the Mets on 3 year 126 million dollar deal. Jays strike out on Tucker, Bo, no left handed starter and no closer.
Better sign Valdez otherwise this team ain’t better and not beating the Dodgers.
January 16, 2026 at 7:43 am #60194senstrolltwo
ParticipantFucking Dodgers, of course
January 16, 2026 at 12:32 am #60168Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantLol Jays got beat to Tucker like they got beat on Diaz.
Now they move on to Plan B(o).
But it won’t matter, the Dodgers are winning it all again unless the Jays respond with just as much improvement.
January 15, 2026 at 4:41 pm #60016CanadaCup
ParticipantJays would have to eat a big chunk of salary to move Santander or Berrios which kind of defeats the purpose.
Passan reporting that Jays willing to go to 10 years for Tucker. Gonna come down to whether he wants to lock in or roll the dice on a shorter term deal. I don’t think any insider has the answer to that. Hope is that he dislikes the FA experience and just wants to decide where he’s going to ride out his career.
right on Santander and Berrios, you clear space but you pay just as much for a team to take them.
the Mets 50m offer really doesnt mean a lot unless you know the details, deferrals and opt outs.Would I want the Jays to go 10 years on Tucker? yes, I dont care. I just want to see them win a WS
Rogers seems to have made a business decision that turning Jays into a powerhouse makes sense. I’ve read that they plan to merge Jays with MLSE and then sell off some minority positions in the new entity. 2025 Blue Jays willing generate much more value from those sales than 2024 Jays. Management believes long term Tucker helps with that.
January 15, 2026 at 3:06 pm #60002Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantJays would have to eat a big chunk of salary to move Santander or Berrios which kind of defeats the purpose.
Passan reporting that Jays willing to go to 10 years for Tucker. Gonna come down to whether he wants to lock in or roll the dice on a shorter term deal. I don’t think any insider has the answer to that. Hope is that he dislikes the FA experience and just wants to decide where he’s going to ride out his career.
Nah, they wouldn’t. Both are serviceable players and there are plenty of teams out there that can’t reel in UFAs who could take them to fill out their roster.
Santander has hit 40 home runs and 100 RBI just a year ago as a switch hitter. He’s getting pushed out of his spot to bring in Tucker otherwise he’d be in the line-up with the hope he can bring power. Somebody would roll the dice on him.
Berrios is still a starter too, easily 10-15 wins with 120+ strikeouts. Again, he’s getting pushed out of the line-up because they’re making upgrades, not because he’s terrible.
Both players can be moved rather easily. It’s not like they’re both trash players with 40 million per year left on their deals.
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