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Miller time 👍💙
how bout
Jays get Mason Miller
SD gets Teidman, Lauer, Bowden Francis, Arjun Nimala
What a fun add Rogers is. Cimber was also a fun pitcher to watch.
Not a big SO pitcher, but gets outs. behind a strong defensive team will be a good one.
Tyler Rogers has been in 158 games the last two seasons and given up a total of 11 non-intentional walks.my concern level is even lower now.
its dec 15th. Jays have knocked off a good chunk of their needs.
There will be a good relief/closer available.
I saw Mason Miller could be had also. that would be something, yes pleaseWho says Hoffman is the closer or that the Jays even go with a single, predetermined closer? More teams are going with a committee of trusted high leverage who go in where the matchups are most advantageous. That sure seems to be the way they’re putting together their bullpen – hardthrowers, funky delivery, play around the edges types. Remember, Rogers doesn’t give up HRs. He induces soft contact which works well with a good defensive team.
Closer by committee is retarded. They need an elite closer, end of story.
They can have every leverage setup they want but the final out of Game 7 in the World Series calls for an elite closer and the Jays don’t have one yet. Even the Dodgers, who won, realized that having to use Yamamoto on 0 days rest was not something they wanted to do again. That’s the team they have to beat.
yeah, it’s not end of story. Having an elite closer is obviously better if there are no other considerations. But there are other considerations, like having a budget. At the start of the offseason, Jays needed to address pitching – starting and relievers – and add at least one bat. Going into next season with the same lineup except no Bo was not an option.
Adding Diaz $69M along with Cease and others might have priced them out of Tucker/Bo. He was never really an option. They were in on Suarez but were outbid. I’d rather have Rogers and go with using your top leverage guys based on best matchups than lose out on adding a serious bat or two.
Who says Hoffman is the closer or that the Jays even go with a single, predetermined closer? More teams are going with a committee of trusted high leverage who go in where the matchups are most advantageous. That sure seems to be the way they’re putting together their bullpen – hardthrowers, funky delivery, play around the edges types. Remember, Rogers doesn’t give up HRs. He induces soft contact which works well with a good defensive team.
Closer by committee is retarded. They need an elite closer, end of story.
They can have every leverage setup they want but the final out of Game 7 in the World Series calls for an elite closer and the Jays don’t have one yet. Even the Dodgers, who won, realized that having to use Yamamoto on 0 days rest was not something they wanted to do again. That’s the team they have to beat.
I started it, its my thread
A top end starter was 100% a need. Gausman and Bieber are UFA after 2026, and you cant wait and see who might be available next year, if you dont have those 2 and Berrios turning into a pumpkin. it doesnt look great.
Great move to jump the market and get a top end starter for many yearsThey dont need to trade Berrios ASAP, they can and might but no rush.
I dont see Bassit coming back to be a bit role player, he will get 2-3 year offers, hes a dog and teams will love him.
my concern level is almost zero
Worrying about what comes after 2026 is pretty irrelevant compared to the opportunity the Jays have before them. They should be all-in in making 2026 the year they return to the World Series. What happens after that can be dealt with when the time comes.
This is less to shit on Cease, who is a great pitcher and signing but it was not the fatal flaw that cost the Jays a World Series.
Now, the Jays have signed another reliever who is not a closer, Tyler Rogers, like they did with Ponce, instead of just ponying up the money to sign an elite closer with Sportsnet saying they won’t be looking at pitchers anymore and are focusing on position players. That’ll be a big mistake if they put themselves in a position where they bring back Hoffman to be the closer or just sign another Hoffman to make the same mistakes again.
Your concern should be a lot higher than zero because these moves could be the difference between holding a lead in the 9th inning of Game 7 and losing another World Series.
Who says Hoffman is the closer or that the Jays even go with a single, predetermined closer? More teams are going with a committee of trusted high leverage who go in where the matchups are most advantageous. That sure seems to be the way they’re putting together their bullpen – hardthrowers, funky delivery, play around the edges types. Remember, Rogers doesn’t give up HRs. He induces soft contact which works well with a good defensive team.
I started it, its my thread
A top end starter was 100% a need. Gausman and Bieber are UFA after 2026, and you cant wait and see who might be available next year, if you dont have those 2 and Berrios turning into a pumpkin. it doesnt look great.
Great move to jump the market and get a top end starter for many yearsThey dont need to trade Berrios ASAP, they can and might but no rush.
I dont see Bassit coming back to be a bit role player, he will get 2-3 year offers, hes a dog and teams will love him.
my concern level is almost zero
Worrying about what comes after 2026 is pretty irrelevant compared to the opportunity the Jays have before them. They should be all-in in making 2026 the year they return to the World Series. What happens after that can be dealt with when the time comes.
This is less to shit on Cease, who is a great pitcher and signing but it was not the fatal flaw that cost the Jays a World Series.
Now, the Jays have signed another reliever who is not a closer, Tyler Rogers, like they did with Ponce, instead of just ponying up the money to sign an elite closer with Sportsnet saying they won’t be looking at pitchers anymore and are focusing on position players. That’ll be a big mistake if they put themselves in a position where they bring back Hoffman to be the closer or just sign another Hoffman to make the same mistakes again.
Your concern should be a lot higher than zero because these moves could be the difference between holding a lead in the 9th inning of Game 7 and losing another World Series.
Rogers and Lee
You know who walked a lot of batters last year? Jays relievers. You know who doesn’t walk guys? Rogers and Lee.
