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  • #66625
    picklerick
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    I truly don’t understand why it’s only hockey websites that have these issues. One of life’s great mysteries. I do appreciate the communication from the guy who runs it, though

    #66618
    nyrangers9479
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    Is not. This is the only forum for the last month+. I posted in a blog a couple blogs ago and got a response from Bill but he seemed aggravated with what I said. Jan said he’d make sure each blog has a forum, but that has yet to happen. Then someone said they’re having issues with the forums they’re trying to resolve. This site is somehow worse than the buzz. I want it to succeed and have offered multiple suggestions, but not a single thing has changed. Very difficult to have flowing conversation on here.

    #66614
    picklerick
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    So the new article is or is not accessible via forums? I’m just about done here

    #66577
    Brukie
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    I gotta say, EK is an idiot!!!

    He reported that Buffalo GM Kevyn Adams traded for Colton Parayko.

    Talk about being stupid.

    #66576
    Brukie
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    Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
    Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
    As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
    Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
    Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
    Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
    See how it easy it is to get second rd picks? But Panarin couldn’t fetch one..lol

    In regards to Giroux vs. Panarin… Ill use the Knights vs. Kraken analogy for this. Because it wasnt necessarily a common move, when Giroux got traded, I think the thought process initially was well we have to give proper value despite the clause, right? As was with the Knights, teams werent quite sure how to approach expansion and the Knights absolutely poached everyone and so when it was time for the Kraken, GMs were prepared and that didnt happen again. And so… when Panarin came around, GM didnt feel entitled to give any more than Greentree and a couple of mid-late picks. If Holland says “thats the offer, take it or leave it”, what are you gonna do? Threaten to not trade Panarin and let him walk for nothing? That would have made you a lot happier right? That Drury stood his ground..!? PS: Go watch highlights of Greentree from this season.

    Does it matter that its a late 2026 1st round pick? These 2026 1st round picks are very valuable, plus we also got their 2026 2nd as well. With how badly teams are trying to acquire RHD, Id try to dangle Morrow and see if we could get another 2nd round pick for him.

    But Ill be honest, we dont trade Trocheck, I wont be disappointed about it. I would rather keep him than trade him for the sake of trading him.

    Schneider, with these RHD trades, could pull a 1st round pick. I doubt it. But I could see a 2nd, a 3rd and a prospect.

    If McCarron can pull a 2nd round pick, theres absolutely no reason why Carrick shouldnt… and I said this before, everyone laughed, that ya’ll would be surprised what these bottom 6 glue guy centers can pull.

    Im torn on Trocheck, I love his play, he is a playoff player that any team would want but they really need to trade him. With all the talk around him, can you imagine he doesnt get traded now? He knows he is a short timer here, he will most likely be moved in the off season, why bother keeping him around? To win another few games? We need to lose games at this point, not win.

    Id rather keep anyone under 25 and rebuild from there. No need to trade any of them because you dont know how a 2nd round pick will turn out. Problem is we need to rebuild right, get rid of the over 30 vets and take it from there.

    #66559
    aecliptic
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    Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
    Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
    As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
    Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
    Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
    Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
    See how it easy it is to get second rd picks? But Panarin couldn’t fetch one..lol

    In regards to Giroux vs. Panarin… Ill use the Knights vs. Kraken analogy for this. Because it wasnt necessarily a common move, when Giroux got traded, I think the thought process initially was well we have to give proper value despite the clause, right? As was with the Knights, teams werent quite sure how to approach expansion and the Knights absolutely poached everyone and so when it was time for the Kraken, GMs were prepared and that didnt happen again. And so… when Panarin came around, GM didnt feel entitled to give any more than Greentree and a couple of mid-late picks. If Holland says “thats the offer, take it or leave it”, what are you gonna do? Threaten to not trade Panarin and let him walk for nothing? That would have made you a lot happier right? That Drury stood his ground..!? PS: Go watch highlights of Greentree from this season.

    Does it matter that its a late 2026 1st round pick? These 2026 1st round picks are very valuable, plus we also got their 2026 2nd as well. With how badly teams are trying to acquire RHD, Id try to dangle Morrow and see if we could get another 2nd round pick for him.

    But Ill be honest, we dont trade Trocheck, I wont be disappointed about it. I would rather keep him than trade him for the sake of trading him.

    Schneider, with these RHD trades, could pull a 1st round pick. I doubt it. But I could see a 2nd, a 3rd and a prospect.

    If McCarron can pull a 2nd round pick, theres absolutely no reason why Carrick shouldnt… and I said this before, everyone laughed, that ya’ll would be surprised what these bottom 6 glue guy centers can pull.

    #66558
    tbnyr94
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    Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
    Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
    As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
    Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
    Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
    Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
    See how it easy it is to get second rd picks? But Panarin couldn’t fetch one..lol

    #66552
    aecliptic
    Participant

    Well, as much as we hate Drury, lets look at the amazing deadline Bowman and Oilers are having…

    The Oilers have traded:
    – a 2027 1st round pick (conditional), as a result of this trade, the 2026 1st round pick that the Sharks own is now completely unprotected
    – a 2028 2nd round pick
    – Andrew Mangiapane

    Oilers received:
    – Connor Murphy
    – Jason Dickinson
    – Colton Dach

    • This reply was modified 4 months ago by aecliptic.
    #66533
    aecliptic
    Participant

    So another RHD traded, Weegar to Utah for Maatta, a prospect and three 2026 2nd round picks.

    #66508
    aecliptic
    Participant

    If Im Drury, before I consider trading Schneider, I dangle Scott Morrow out there to see what the market looks like for him. I dont think Morrow’s offense is good enough to make up for his deficiencies defensively to be a mainstay defenseman, but someone out there might believe they can make it work.

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