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FlyerFrank
Participant“Remember how hard the Flyers/Comcast media pushed Torts “fictional” accountability and being “hard to play against” (old time Flyers hockey!). Get ready for the same, the savior has arrived, media push. Pushing Tocchet’s openness and accessibility just as hard as they promoted Torts combativeness and disregard for modern hockey with the same level of realistic analysis, none. Remember how much we were told the players loved Torts and to not look behind the curtain. Tocchet’s going to be promoted as the Dali Lama. They have a product to sell, it’s entertainment to make money, hockey is what happens during the commercials.”
I stopped following the Flyers Torts’ first two seasons. The franchise was clearly in the toilet. He kept the doors open, I suppose. That’s the best I can say about him. Watched last year and the team was still bad in most respects but there were players who showed something and I like the off season changes. Maybe if you had taken time away from the Flyers at their truly incompetent bottom, you wouldn’t be so bitter, angry and irrational. Pro tip: Zegras is going to deliver the goods and his presence in the Top 6 is going to help every line.
August 24, 2025 at 10:22 am in reply to: Mike Fink — Ranking the NHL Rebuilds Closest to Contention — Flyers (6th) #22801FlyerFrank
ParticipantFWIW, recently saw a fantasy hockey list where Sanheim was listed at #61 (his average ranking) with his highest ranking being #55. Seems about right to me… on a good team, he’s a 2 at best.
A fantasy hockey list???!!! Sounds authoritative. Sanheim played for Canada at 4 Nations. Not sure who didn’t play for reasons of their own or injury, but when you get selected to make a Canadian national team there is no way in hell you’re 55 to 61 in the entire league. He’s easily in the top 10 percent, roughly Top 20-25, based on that alone plus the role and minutes he played here. The Canadian and US defenses were stacked. Sweden and Finland not so much as Risto was selected for Finland as an example. Although I would say Risto was the Flyers 2nd best defenseman last year, ahead of York.
August 23, 2025 at 4:24 pm in reply to: Mike Fink — Ranking the NHL Rebuilds Closest to Contention — Flyers (6th) #22731FlyerFrank
ParticipantJett playing in a few AHL playoff games has no bearing on his NHL potential or career. Hopefully he has improved from the shitshow he was when they tried to force him onto the roster last year. The Flyers need him to pan out but even if he does. When does the actual rebuild start? Still no #1 Center, #1 D, #1 goalie. Rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
Then neither does Buium’s 4 inconsequential playoff games where he chipped in one PP assist. Six points in 7 AHL playoff games at 18 is still nothing to turn your nose up at. Zegras is the 1C, Sanheim is the 1D until further notice. Zegras has to get back to the .75 PPG offensive level and surpass it at least a little. There aren’t that many defensemen in the league better than Sanheim. There are about 225 NHL defensemen in any given season. How many are better than Sanheim? I see Top 20 lists without Sanheim on it, but I wouldn’t trade him straight up for some guys I see there.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantHe liked the 25 plus million that no other team even came close to offering you fn dope. Then a job for life.
What’s that old saying. I have forgotten more about hockey this you will ever know. Funny how you rarely answer any questions thrown your way.
Enjoy sucking the flyers cock. Your like that chic who will continue to do it no matter what when called upon
Hahaha! It’s not even three in the afternoon and you’re drunk already. Get back to me when you have legitimate questions and you’ve sobered up you rude punk. No, “Do you think X is a needle mover?” is not a legitimate question. It’s a question a superficial idiot asks.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantWhy he did have 2 less than optimum opportunities? Why hasn’t a good organization ever hired him ?
Do you think the flyers are an optimum opportunity? So make that 3 of 4 slappy.
Already told u what I would have done. Would also have taken a chance on an outside the box hire; not another proven loser retread. It’s awesome seeing the flyers trip over themselves. Another big culture win year coming up
You swallow everting the flyers put out. Wipe your chin.
Tocchet liked the opportunity better than his other offers. They wanted him back in VAN. But, of course, you know more about hockey than Tocchet, so I’ll defer to you. Hahahaha! Bottom line: You can’t even read a winning percentage stat. I’ve gone back and forth with you a couple months now and see no evidence you have any idea what you’re talking about when it comes to hockey. You just regurgitate every misguided hockey cliche you’ve heard over the last several years. Monkey hear, monkey repeat.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantHis career is underwhelming. Below .500z Accept it slap nuts.
How did last season go in Vancouver?
You’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own math. He’s .516 with two less than optimum opportunities out of three. How did last season go in Philadelphia with Torts? Which genius coach should the Flyers have replaced Torts with?
FlyerFrank
ParticipantI do not prfer either. Torts was a terrible hire. They both are extremely underwhelming. Rather kept Shaw for a 2 year stop gap.
He has a losing coaching record does he not?
Wonder why no top end teams have ever hired tocchet. He offers next to nothing. Coaches loser teams from loser organizations
He had a .608 win percentage in Vancouver. He actually got Phoenix to the playoffs. I know that doesn’t satisfy your lofty standards.
FlyerFrank
Participantwow 2 cups as an assistant. that is top notch stuff. torts has one as a head coach. coach of the year. impressive. bill barber was COY at on epoint.
what is his career coaching record as a head coach?
So of you’d prefer Torts, why not just say it?
How is Tocchet’s HC record terrible? He’s gotten better results as his opportunities got better.
2 yrs TBL NHL 148 53 69 26 132 .446
4 yrs ARI NHL 290 125 131 34 284 .490 9 4 5 .444
3 yrs VAN NHL 200 108 65 27 243 .608 13 7 6 .538
Career 638 286 265 87 659 .516 22 11 11 .500August 23, 2025 at 12:51 pm in reply to: Mike Fink — Ranking the NHL Rebuilds Closest to Contention — Flyers (6th) #22701FlyerFrank
Participantnhl playoffs > ahl playoffs. no matter what spin you try to put on it
Really??!! Shocking. Less than a month and we’ll see some pre-season games see how the team shakes out. You should be able to watch most Wild games on the NHL Network. Enjoy!
August 23, 2025 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Mike Fink — Ranking the NHL Rebuilds Closest to Contention — Flyers (6th) #22695FlyerFrank
Participantmeanwhile Buium was playing in the NHL playoffs.
no they do not have a buium type player on the roster or system.
He got into 4 out of 6 games and was a minus player in a losing effort to Vegas. I’m not trashing the guy. He’ll be an NHL regular. Luchanko had 6 points in 7 AHL playoff games. Of course, just a reminder, the Flyers didn’t make the NHL playoffs.
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