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  • in reply to: Mingioni — Flyers Goalies Remain an Enigma for 2025-26 #22505
    FlyerFrank
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    the real problem starts at the top with ownership. then trickles down layer by layer.

    The almost nine year long Hextall/Fletcher catastrophe is over. That destroyed this team, no question. This is now. The team still has issues but it’s a ton better off than it was.

    in reply to: Mingioni — Flyers Goalies Remain an Enigma for 2025-26 #22486
    FlyerFrank
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    This is the Flyers real problem area, not that they don’t have enough “puck-moving” defensemen or skilled, fast players who weigh less than most of the players on the US Women’s national team.

    FlyerFrank
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    no MM is not a special player at this time. he may be in the future. what will martone deliver?

    those results will not be good enough. adequate will not be good enough. not sure why you can’t see that.

    There’s always a chance Michkov could get injured. He scored 26 goals in the best league in the world at 19-20. He should top that at 20-21. He has better offense around him. There’s no reason to think Martone can’t do roughly the same. They’ll both be among the top 4 goal scorers on this team soon enough. It’s not elite offensive skill the Flyers lack. The top 4 goal scorers last year with CAR and FLA had 103 and 106. The Flyers had 95 with some upside on the way. It’s overall team D, the defensemen and the goaltending that need to get better now. If you want to complain, not sure why you aren’t complaining about that. If things don’t go much better defensively, it’s another tanked season. Keeping it vague and superficial I guess.

    FlyerFrank
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    quantity is not greater than quality. majority are of the vanilla variety. nothing special. every team has those types. you act like all these picks will turn into nhl players. majority will not. flyers have shown the do not trade their “prospects”. do they ever sell high on someone they drafted?

    there is no plan.

    You only have to fill so many roster spots. You don’t need to have every prospect turn into a “special” player. Michkov already is, and Martone will deliver. That’s two out of those five Top 13 picks. Should Luckanko and Nesbitt become adequate regulars in their roles, that’s a plenty good result. Drysdale, the vaunted “puck-moving” defenseman, is gonna Drysdale.

    FlyerFrank
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    they can 100% be buyers if it fits longer term; as they should. they have very little to sell.

    if they are in the playoff “mix” I can easily see them buying to an extent and moving out some picks/prospects (not their “high” end ones)

    Forwards develop faster. They’re within a year or two of having some surplus players to put a decent trade package together. They’ve got plenty of forward prospects. Likely more than enough will develop to fill any holes and the remainder becomes trade bait. This is clearly the plan. Still not sure how it’s a problem.

    FlyerFrank
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    DB already announced that they are in buyer mode so i wouldn’t count on it.

    The Flyers are in buyer mode until they aren’t. They won’t be buying this trade deadline even if all the band aids hold, they catch some lucky breaks and they are in playoff contention.

    FlyerFrank
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    Zito putting it all together for the Panthers doesn’t diminish that the team was built around those 2 anchors and it took many years after they were drafted to get where they are. The Flyers haven’t even drafted those players. The clock hasn’t even started on an actual rebuild.

    It certainly could happen that the Flyers miss the playoffs again this year, they win the lottery and draft McKenna or finish badly enough to pull a rabbit out of a hat with another 13th or higher pick. We went through all the recent Cup winners, and while they’ve all built their teams a bit differently, they were all built solidly, deep, good sized and a bit nasty.

    FlyerFrank
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    Where are the Barkov, Ekblad, Austin Matthews, Makar, Sidney Crosby, McDavid, etc players?

    The only reason you’re mentioning Barkov and Ekblad in the same breath as Crosby and McDavid is because they have Cups. Barkov is a Top 10 center in the league, not sure Ekblad is currently a Top 10 Dman but he’s close enough. FLA scored big with #1 and #2 overall picks more than a decade ago but it wasn’t until Zito came on that Florida became a legit contender and now 2-time champs. Barkov and Ekblad have good size, don’t get pushed around. Ekblad is a mean defender.

    FlyerFrank
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    The Flyers are skipping step 1. They are drafting the people to support the corner stones, which they don’t have nor do they have a plan to acquire.

    In the last four drafts, the Flyers have had five picks in the Top 13. With them, they got Drysdale (for all practical purposes), Michkov, Luchanko, Martone, Nesbitt. Players picked that high have about a 90% shot at becoming NHL regulars. Yes, the return on Gauthier is looking bad but I don’t see how anyone can complain about the picks now. Below those picks, they’ve grabbed Bonk, Zavgarin, Bump and a few others who could become regulars, not just guys who will get a few games in. They already have some good pieces in place, including one of those Top 13 draft picks.

    FlyerFrank
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    Think I’ll go talk to a wall. I’m sure it will be a far more intelligent conversation.

    Hahaha. Why, because I haven’t bought into every non-sensical anti-Flyers cliche you have? Here are a couple pro tips for you:

    1. Wanting a team that doesn’t get pushed around like a bunch of shopping carts and, possibly, pushes the other team around, doesn’t mean skill doesn’t matter or that we should all time travel back to the 70s for that old time hockey.

    2. Every smallish, amateur Dman with some offensive skills is not the next Erik Karlsson. Actually, playing defense still matters.

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