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I think you have to let Marner go to market. The price on him shouldn’t exceed $11.5m. Ultimately we keep hearing from all the agents that taxes don’t matter, so if Rantanen is going to make $12m, he’s the bar. He’s crossed 100pts twice and has had more than 40 goals once and more than 50 goals once and has crossed 30 goals on 4 other occasions. Marner has crossed 100 points once and has crossed 30 goals twice; he prorates to over 100 points 5 times. He’s an excellent player but the Leafs will never insulate him to his best effect. Matthews is big, but he doesn’t play a hard enough game – if anything he’s like having two Marners on the ice at the same time. Knies is one part, but if you really wanted to see a guy like Marner excel, you do need some size around him. People love to shit on me for comparing Marner to Kane, but there are a lot of similarities there. Kane, through his prime years, had 123 points in 127 playoff games. Marner has 63 in 70. But Chicago, at their peak, surrounded Kane with size – guys who were over 6’3 and 210lbs and they used their size to effect. The irony is that for the Leafs to get the guys necessary to elevate Marner, they need to let Marner go.
The other thing that going to market likely does for Marner is that it realistically sets his price. If a cusping or growing team like San Jose or Utah or a good team like Carolina feel that Marner puts them over the top, see what they offer. If the market is that good for him, let him be their problem. I doubt he’d come back once the market set a price for him, but who knows? I still doubt he could command more than Rantanen.
WRT to the bottom-6 – I thought Laughton and Lorentz were generally good – I thought both Jarnkrok and Kampf (in his limited audition) were just plain bad. Most importantly, and probably to your point, I thought the Domi line lacked identity and purpose. Domi isn’t a checking line guy. It’s just not his skillset. I thought Holmberg showed all sorts of effort and a complete lack of execution. McMann had a terrible playoffs and most of the time Domi seemed stuffed between those two.
I do think Robertson has run his course and if they can offload Jarnkrok and Kampf it sure would make sense.
Marner will get more than 11.5, and he should at this point. the cap is 88, if it hits 100, then 11.5 is the same as 13.06
Fans are going to adjust to higher cap and contract expectations… but fans are generally slow to move the needle on stuff like thatMarner could re-sign with the Leafs. If they walk from him, I hope there is a clear direction and plan.
But they Leafs need to rebuild the bottom 6, the Panthers crushed them. Floridas top 3 scorers werent a huge factor. head to head against the LEafs top lines. But the bottom 6 couldnt keep up.
If that means spreading Marners money around thats fine also
Until I hear otherwise, I strongly believe that Matthews is hurt.
I saw the other day his shots from in around the net where he scores most of his goals, the speed on those shots is down 10km hr/ average 77 last year (69 goals) and this season they are around 67, so his wrist is prob not 100%.
Worst Leafs playoff game I have ever witnessed, and that goes back a long time.
I was the biggest believer in continuing to hold onto our assets.
Sorry, last night broke me.
Marner is gone.
Tavares is gone.
I can’t franking believe we gave up a 1st rounder to rent Laughton.
Next year will be a huge step backwards, but it’s better than the horrific inertia this team has made me suffer through for the past eight years.
FFS, how can you put forth such little effort last night?
Laughton has another season with the leafs, but point taken.
if its over Friday…tear it down
im all or big changes. Bennett would be fine, but if he was on the leafs and did that elbow to the goalie, we know he gets suspended for the series.
save all your pennies for McdavidIt would behoove us all to simply ignore the poster in question. It’s what I’ve decided to do. No response of any kind, even to hockey posts, because even they inevitably end up in insults and political trolling. When no one gives him air, he’ll go seek attention elsewhere.
No response. Kinda like the Leafs last night, unfortunately. ????
unfortunately that type of person loves to hear themselves speak, in their minds they are always the most important person in the room. ignoring them doesnt work.
Rent F-ing free. Imagine being so wrapped up in politics that you can’t talk about anything else without bringing politics into it. It’s pathological. I can’t imagine how the guy’s day must go with everything everywhere being politics all the time. Waitress took too long to bring your food? Politics. Guy pissed you off in traffic? Politics. Your hockey team lost a game? Politics. Jesus Christ. What a shitty way to walk through life. Carrying around a big heavy sack full of perceived grievances everywhere you go. Then getting defensive and playing the victim when you get called out on your bullshit. I regret defending this douche when half of the HB forum was calling for him to be banned. He’s completely incorrigible and is an agent of chaos. He’s like Horseman War showing up in your forums – nothing good will follow.
I would fully hope and expect this thread to be locked down, sanitized, and warnings/bans handed out. We’ll see.
I was planning to be posting more here, but I cant with that dude. just one obnoxious incessant post after another. Just been FB brain mushed, I have a friend who is exactly the same, its like they are the same person posting that stuff. spoon fed from the same tit. The hockey talk is just as bad.
Leafs in 7?
The fans chanting USA at the end of last game..id say that should motivate…but Matthews is American also Knies.
Floridas 2 goal scorers last game are Canadian.so yeah
Good thing Edmonton has shit goaltending. Just imagine McJesus and DrySaddle playing in front of an elite goalie.
I hope Edmonton wins the cup if its not the Leafs. Get Mcdavid his win, then he can feel accomplished and come help the leafs get one.
I did. I think my exact words were “what has he done to be promoted to the second line?!?” Yikes, big ol swing and a miss on that one, lol.
I said he was cooked 🙂
Really? I haven’t really watched with any great scrutiny – but I heard people say Rodrigues peeked and saw him coming, but I never saw that in the few replays I had seen. I think any team and fanbase has the objective right to feel a tad bent over by that call. In that instance he deserved the boarding call and it was borderline to a 5 minute. The fact that Florida didn’t get the man advantage there is probably what spiralled the game because the refs just decided to let them get away with attempted murder on Holmberg 2-3 times after that.
he did a shoulder check twice actually. was able to get his hand up to protect and did a flop after to try and sell it…i cant see that he was at all hurt
