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senstrolltwo
Participantif only Marner didnt block the Rantanen trade.
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ParticipantThere is nothing about Marner that reminds me of Gilmour. DG was all heart and lots of times willed the Leafs to playoffs wins. Marner shits the bed and cries cuz he didnt get his way
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ParticipantGetting rid of reaves was the point, dont care about the return. could have been a $5 Tim hortons card
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ParticipantIt’s sort of two-fold – there have been 6 times the 60 goal mark has been hit since salary cap was instituted (Stamkos, Ovechkin, McDavid, Pastrnak and Matthews x 2)- and only 43 times in all of hockey history by 23 players.
In the captain obvious column, there’s a correlation between goals scored in a season and the number of higher scorers – and scoring is still up. Like here’s a brief history of average goals / season in the nhl:
Now here’s a test:
(It says it supports BBCodes. it does not. Here’s a shitty unformatted table to replace the one I’d tried:)
Year Average Goals Leading Scorer
2024 247 52
2023 253 69
2022 258 64
2021 255 60
2020 237 41 ** Shortened by COVID to 56 games, this prorates to 60
2019 244 48 ** Shortened by COVID to 70 games, this prorates to 56
2018 244 51
2017 240 49
2016 223 44
2015 219 50
2014 218 53
2013 219 51It’s not always 1:1 but there’s a pretty strong correlation there between average team goals >250 and the league having a 50 goal scorer. Last year at 247 trended downwards, but the league’s best goalscorer trended downwards. If Matthews had an average season he probably bounces the league average up 1 all be himself. The league’s best player also struggled with his linemates a little and didn’t create a goal machine or be a goal machine either. My personal challenge with era-adjusted scoring is that it sort of ignores the rising tide raises all boats sort of thing – Gretzky and Lemieux alone drove scoring in the NHL. They weren’t a product of it they were a cause. Look at how league scoring drops when they were retired or aging. We see that now with McDavid, MacKinnon and Matthews driving up numbers across the board.
In conclusion, I think Matthews can do it again because he is that good at it and the league is still sustaining it.
If you factor in age, AM will be 28 by the start of the season.
If i looked correctly, the oldest person, in the last 30-35 years to score 60 was Brett Hull, 27
add in Health and the luck needed, its unlikleyone note, AM will get 84 games to try
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ParticipantFinally saw someone post about this question I asked a while ago.
Marner is worth about 5-6 standings points roughly. career high 7.5, if you believe in Standing points measurements (like WAR)Matthews was way down last season (even with MM on the team)
AM having a bounce back season would make up most of that gap, alonethe response I expect is, AM will never get close to 60-70 goals without MM… and thats dumb.
I dont think he would score 60 again even with MM on the team, no player has 3, 60 goal seasons anymore
in the 50s I see that happeningWith a few more tweaks and maybe a nice tdl addition, the Leafs are no worse off come playoff time..imo
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ParticipantSlick move getting Reaves off the book completely
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Participantpretty boring off season since mitchy move.
I cant see much else happening for the Leafs. maybe a trade but doesnt feel like it
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ParticipantWell the Jays lost one game…back in the shitter they go.
Vlad is absolutely garbage at baserunning and sliding….$35m…hasnt even hit 15hrs….what a joke.
I think he just needs to relax on the bases, he tries to make things happen and over commits and get picked off. just be smarter, its not hard. calculated risks.
they dont need him to be the hero on bases, just hit the ball hard
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ParticipantVlad baserunning cost them a run..grrr
win streak over at 10. have to start another onesenstrolltwo
ParticipantYes, you’re right, all those superstar 100 point free agents are just lining up to sign with the Leafs on July 9th.
And if that doesn’t work, they got a lot of elite prospects and 1st round picks ready to dominate the league or to trade for more help.
The Florida Panthers are absolutely fucked and shaking in their boots thinking about the revenge of the Leafs.
lol
rage on loser. maybe take a break from internet angry reply guysenstrolltwo
ParticipantIts july 9th
time to panicsenstrolltwo
ParticipantBye Leafs chances at winning a Cup.
shoot, they were so close over the last 10 years with Mitch
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ParticipantPuckpedia has a tax calculator
https://puckpedia.com/tax-calculatorno need to watch the games, just calculate the players tax
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Participant10!
going for 11 in a row, team record is 11 (5 times)
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ParticipantNo, he clearly wasn’t as he had more career playoff points than everybody on the team, including Tavares who is 7 years older.
I dont know who he meant with that. AM has to look in the Mirror as well, but its going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
i wouldnt say good riddance, more like it was time to try a different approach. in the NHL the playoffs are a very different game and you cant play soft dipsy doodling hockey like Mitch does. it works a bit but good teams squish you like bug in the important games
Must be why Marner was involved in winning 3 games against Florida. Funny because Kucherov, McDavid and Matthews each had 1 or less goal vs. Florida. But Marner’s the one who can’t play well in the playoffs though…
Marner also had 1 goal against Florida
Also 1 assist total games 4-7not that it matters since Mitch was not going to re-sign any way, but for 14 mil or whatever people think it would have taken, its not worth it.
For a PP guy, he went 29 playoff games in a row without scoring a PP goal.Bye Mitch
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