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I agree, but I think bennett cost closer to 10m per to get him to Toronto…on a 7 year deal
It may be wiser or more cap friendly to sign Nelson or Granlund or Duchene as a 2nd/3rd line center on a shorter cheaper deal and then try to sign TWO of the players you mentioned?
I think Tanev is must either way.
They will also need another 2nd/3rd line (maybe JT on the cheap) a top 6 winger (I mentioned P Kane a while ago) and a 4-6 dman.

10m is pretty crazy. his reg season is not in that realm, but his playoffs are worth it. but does he replicate that on another team..not likley.

They had 22 Mil in Marner/JT
Can you get Bennet, JT and Tanev for the same dollars

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13 mil for Marner or is money better spent signing Bennett say 8-9mil (I know crazy money) and one of these players
Tanner Jeannot
Pius Suter
Radek Faksa
Brandon Tanev
Yanni Gourde

Leafs have to beef up the bottom 6..they cant hang with Florida at all

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I don’t like it either, but it’s a small price to pay not to listen to the wild conspiracy-laden political diatribes that hijack threads and go on for pages and pages and pages. Also the random bans for no reason. Site admin who doesn’t know how to use a spellchecker, less yet operate the admin interface of a 30-year old piece of forum abandonware.

The quote thing is a PITA, but I can live with it and I hope they fix it.

i havent seen much of that latley..but one poster seems to be here…so yeah.

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i have no interest in doing that much work to post

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this site is so hard to use, I dont know if its someones post or the post someone is replying too. why tf doesnt the quote work

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There are certain posters we’re hoping don’t find their way over here, fingers crossed.

too late

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They aren’t letting Marner walk.

He’s already left the relationship.

you cant fire me, i quit!

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McMann-Laughton-Domi get the 3rd line role

This is fine for reg season play. but gets dummied against Florida or another contender

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fun with cherry picked numbers

player A
0 – Goals
4-5 – One Ice goals 5v5
off zone starts 81%

Player B
1 goal
6-6 – One Ice goals 5v5
off zone starts 52%

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I think you have to let Marner go to market. The price on him shouldn’t exceed $11.5m. Ultimately we keep hearing from all the agents that taxes don’t matter, so if Rantanen is going to make $12m, he’s the bar. He’s crossed 100pts twice and has had more than 40 goals once and more than 50 goals once and has crossed 30 goals on 4 other occasions. Marner has crossed 100 points once and has crossed 30 goals twice; he prorates to over 100 points 5 times. He’s an excellent player but the Leafs will never insulate him to his best effect. Matthews is big, but he doesn’t play a hard enough game – if anything he’s like having two Marners on the ice at the same time. Knies is one part, but if you really wanted to see a guy like Marner excel, you do need some size around him. People love to shit on me for comparing Marner to Kane, but there are a lot of similarities there. Kane, through his prime years, had 123 points in 127 playoff games. Marner has 63 in 70. But Chicago, at their peak, surrounded Kane with size – guys who were over 6’3 and 210lbs and they used their size to effect. The irony is that for the Leafs to get the guys necessary to elevate Marner, they need to let Marner go.

The other thing that going to market likely does for Marner is that it realistically sets his price. If a cusping or growing team like San Jose or Utah or a good team like Carolina feel that Marner puts them over the top, see what they offer. If the market is that good for him, let him be their problem. I doubt he’d come back once the market set a price for him, but who knows? I still doubt he could command more than Rantanen.

WRT to the bottom-6 – I thought Laughton and Lorentz were generally good – I thought both Jarnkrok and Kampf (in his limited audition) were just plain bad. Most importantly, and probably to your point, I thought the Domi line lacked identity and purpose. Domi isn’t a checking line guy. It’s just not his skillset. I thought Holmberg showed all sorts of effort and a complete lack of execution. McMann had a terrible playoffs and most of the time Domi seemed stuffed between those two.

I do think Robertson has run his course and if they can offload Jarnkrok and Kampf it sure would make sense.

Marner will get more than 11.5, and he should at this point. the cap is 88, if it hits 100, then 11.5 is the same as 13.06
Fans are going to adjust to higher cap and contract expectations… but fans are generally slow to move the needle on stuff like that

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Marner could re-sign with the Leafs. If they walk from him, I hope there is a clear direction and plan.

But they Leafs need to rebuild the bottom 6, the Panthers crushed them. Floridas top 3 scorers werent a huge factor. head to head against the LEafs top lines. But the bottom 6 couldnt keep up.

If that means spreading Marners money around thats fine also

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Until I hear otherwise, I strongly believe that Matthews is hurt.

I saw the other day his shots from in around the net where he scores most of his goals, the speed on those shots is down 10km hr/ average 77 last year (69 goals) and this season they are around 67, so his wrist is prob not 100%.

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Im thinking about starting a thread called, WHO is in a better situation: LEAFS or SENS?

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Worst Leafs playoff game I have ever witnessed, and that goes back a long time.

I was the biggest believer in continuing to hold onto our assets.

Sorry, last night broke me.

Marner is gone.

Tavares is gone.

I can’t franking believe we gave up a 1st rounder to rent Laughton.

Next year will be a huge step backwards, but it’s better than the horrific inertia this team has made me suffer through for the past eight years.

FFS, how can you put forth such little effort last night?

Laughton has another season with the leafs, but point taken.

if its over Friday…tear it down

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im all or big changes. Bennett would be fine, but if he was on the leafs and did that elbow to the goalie, we know he gets suspended for the series.
save all your pennies for Mcdavid

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