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The Leafs won’t be contenders overnight. They can’t possibly get better with a tear down without their own 1st rounders. Are you OK with giving Boston and Philadelphia a top tier first rounder over the next 2 years? If you tear it down, that’s exactly what will happen. In that same time period, as the Leafs rebuild, those two franchises will also be better thanks to the Leafs tear down. It’s better to try and retool and acquire first round picks and prospects with other teams draft capital. I’m all for moving Nylander for picks. I’m also good with scraping half of the defense and back filling them with our own prospects and a UFA that would be better than what we had. On the goaltending front, one year ago, the Leafs made it to the second round of the playoffs. It wasn’t the offense that got them there. It had to do with solid goaltending. The Leafs goaltending isn’t as bleak as you make them out to be. Last year was an injury prone year with their goaltenders being hurt, off and on, plus many of their key players also sidelined for long stretches of the season. Nylander and Matthews missed time, as did McCabe plus Tanev barely played. This team does need to move half of it’s roster but I’m guessing that about 7 or 8 will actually move. A couple of free agent signings and some addition through subtraction is in order. Nylander and Rielly need to be moved this off season.
They cant do a full tear down while not having their 1sts, it doesn’t make sense.
You can trade Nylander now, but I dont see why you would at this point.
over his past 2 seasons he is 90pts /82 and last season was 100 point pace. with a draft pick you pray for a prospect with 80 point potential.
And with him signed to what is a decent value contract, it should take a massive return to move him.Its Rielly for sure, move him yesterday.
Once you know if AM is going to sign again, then you decide.
Here is Mckenna doc.
https://xcancel.com/SaugaCitySniperHard not to cheer for the kid, nice family. Hope he succeeds in the NHL wherever he lands
Jays bats sure were missing Bo and his shit defense at SS last night eh boys? lmfao
Bo would have been playing 3b if they re-sign him and not Okamoto, or maybe some 2b?
doesnt matter. Even Okamoto with his questioned defense when he signed has looked really good and has a much better dwar at 3b than Bo.in no universe would having Bo right now have improved the Jays in the W column.
So far a colossal disaster of a signing for the Mets
not signing Bo and Tucker (100 mil)
Kyle Tucker since last July 1st
450 PA, .235/.348/.373, 9 HR, 9 SBInstead signing Okamoto and Sanchez (22 mil)
so far the better moves.McKenna < 3rd + 24th overall or 5th + 26th overall.
That would make sense, or 3rd and a top prospect from last year. Picking 3rd nets you either Stenberg or your choice of the best available defenseman. I’m not sold at San Jose taking another forward, when their need is defense. It appears that #2 or #3 is going to be a defenseman. If the deal is right, you make that trade. I also hear rumors that Nylander is on the block. I wonder if San Jose or Chicago would consider moving #2 or #4 to get a scoring winger.
I just dont think the Leafs trade down. I would want a lot more, like a stupid over payment.
Marner is gonna win a Cup his first year in Vegas, that’s going to be hard for the Leaf faithful to swallow. Man, he’s playing fantastic with a deeper group around him. Amazing what happens when a team has talent, depth across all four lines, good/big/mobile defence and good goaltending.
My wife and I are moving to Muskoka from Arizona shortly, As a Westerner I don’t know how I’m going to handle all the Leaf love in Ontario??? Wish me luck!!!
dont worry there is just as much leaf hate and that includes Leaf fans.
I dont care about what Marner is doing, just wish it happened with the Leafs.
They tried to sign him and then tried to trade him, Marner blocked both…nothing you can do. they missed the window before his ntc kicked in to Move him for a better return. I doubt most teams would have traded him then, but I suppose some would have. but they dont get nearly the attention the Leafs do.humm, Domi had surgery which had some complication to it.
Don’t look like he will be ready for training camp.CJ on First Up says he was told Domi is doing okay but it might be some time before he’s able to play for the Leafs again
feels like a ltir sit. I could see him out for a while, into 2027 or maybe the season.
saw this scouting report.
Scouting Report: Agile, fearless offensive dynamo who can work wonders on the powerplay; owns perhaps the best set of hands in the draft. As with all players in this mold, the slight forward is at his best on the powerplay, capable of single-handedly generating goals. Even strength is the problem, with backchecking the furthest thing from his mind. And at his small size, that willingness to fly into danger may pose injury problems down the road.
worth taking #1?
So despite the Mets being terrible, he still has more RBI than Vlad and you proved yourself to be retarded in proving that the Jays having a better OB% would mean he’d be even better on the Jays.
Bo playing at his worst is still being productive on a terrible team. The Jays fucked up. They went cheap, they lost an elite hitter and are now struggling with hitting. You’ll learn the hard way like you did with Marner. It will just take time for you to realize it but continue to deny it.
Bichette has a 72 wRC+
thats hitter’s total offensive value compared to the league average, while adjusting for park factors and era. A wRC+ of 100 is league averageSo Bo in fact is not productive, he has been well below League average.
Its fucking hilarious you die on the stupidest hills. lolAgain, missing the clear examples of guys like Seider, Makar and Hughes NOT going 1st overall in recent years and yet being better than whoever was drafted 1st overall.
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I said 2017 Makar year right in my post? why so dense?
Also, I said ignoring all the drafts a D was taken #1, as they Leafs would have taken a D #1 that year also.
and Dahlin vs Q hughes is close. Both top pair #1, nobody would have traded down from Dahlin to take Hughes that year. so thats a dumb point. besides like I fucking mentioned, that year is excluded because a D was #1 anyway.you just argue for the sake if it, dont care to read or actually have a normal discussion, you have to have an enemy at all times to feel value, its sad
Well, not to go FULL UG on you, it’s only delayed for now.
I wonder if Domi a had a core surgery simular to what Jarnkrok had and re-aggrevated something.it was a weird. out indefinitely, complications after surgery and likely wont be ready. sounds like someone who may end up ltir.
but who knowsWrong again. There are plenty of 1st overall busts and plenty of recent examples where the best player from the draft was not 1st overall.
2010: Hall vs Seguin. Seguin won.
2011: Nugent-Hopkins vs. Landeskog. Landeskog won.
2012: Yakupov vs Everybody else. Yakupov sucked.
2013: MacKinnon vs Barkov. MacKinnon has scored more points and goals but Barkov has more Cups (way better two-way player too).
2014: Ekblad vs. Reinhart. They won Cups together eventually. #3 Draisaitl way more goals and points than both. Florida with the #1, #2 and #4 (Bennett) pick. Leafs should do the same.
2015: McDavid vs. Eichel. Best player in the world is McDavid, no doubt, but Eichel has the Cup and chasing a 2nd this year.
2016: Matthews vs. Laine. Matthews has the best regular season stats but Tkachuk went 6th and he’s got a Cup.
2017: Hischier vs Patrick. Makar went 4th. Clearly the best player from the draft. Heiskanen went 3rd.
2018: Dahlin vs Svechnikov. Quinn Hughes went 7th.
2019: J. Hughes. Seider has been better at 6th overall. Caufield was 15th overall and has more goals. Boldy was 12th overall and comparable.
2020: Lafreniere. Stutzle (3rd), Raymond (4th) and Jarvis (13th) have all been better players.If the Leafs scouting department is good at what they do, they could easily trade down and get the better combination of players by trading down.
The only way the argument for “keep 1st overall” is if the draft yielded an actual generational talent like McDavid. McKenna is not McDavid. He has serious flaws in his game. Flaws that this franchise has dealt with and failed with in the past. The Leafs would be retarded to repeat the same mistakes again expecting different results.
missing the point again of course. Trading down to pick a D. that the the Leafs need more ..according to a lot of people.
its not Nugent-Hopkins vs. Landeskog, which is dumb thats basically a toss up. but it would be Nugent-Hopkins vs trading down to #4 to select Adam Larsson. the first D taken, or whoever was the projected top D in the draft.
also, I wouldnt care if my team to RNH or Landeskog, both ended up as good NHLs players. worth the picks. 1000 points for RNHNo team is good enough to know for sure that trading down from #1 to 3 or 4 to select a D is the right move. its way to risky and based on all info..will end up looking really bad
doing the trading down exercise, I saw this on another website.
Trade the 1st overall pick in previous drafts for 3rd OA plus a late 1st and prospect. etc.
go back and see how it would turn out.spoiler, keeping #1 and taking the best player is the best option for pretty much the last 15 drafts.
clear exceptions are. ignoring all the drafts a D was taken #1, the Leafs biggest “need” by most accounts a dman2020 Jake Sanderson vs Lafreniere
2017 Heiskanen / Makar vs Hischier2023 Just some example, would you rather have Bedard or say, first D picked…Reinbacher and E Cowan plus another depth prospect?
2019 Jack Hughes or Bowen Byram plus Connor McMichael plus another depth prospectHe will hang with him after the games when he’s done playing.
Love how the retards were raging nobody defended Matthews but are so quick to jettison the one guy that did.
sounds like he wont be ready for the season, and indefinitely leaves to door open for a longer absence.
I dont care if he stood up for him, get better players who do the same but are not disasters defensively but also can contribute more than 30 points.
hes a tweener who is not good enough to play top line with Matthews (or anyone) and not good enough def. to play 3/4 line not to mention to expensive for all that he brings.you like plus minus he was -29. At least JT scores 30 goals and 70 points for his deficiencies
The Jays in fact are currently one of the worst teams at getting on base.
Jays ob% .307 – 26th in the League
Mets are last .293you know this stuff can be looked up right?
