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Chayka loves Domi. He’s not going anywhere.
Im sure Domi is a fine person to hang out with
he can hang with Chayka up in the box.And yet despite that still has more HRs and RBIs than Vlad.
lol this pretty much encapsulates what you are all about.
never ever able to admit a tiny little bit you might be wrong. just always dig into a position. the most confident when wrong. just a sickness.there is Hr and RBI, thats the 2 stats Bo has on Vlad, every other measurable stat is advantage Vlad. not to mention RBI is a weak stat, relies heavily on someone to get on base in front of you, which they have no control over, not a stat anyone uses anymore to asses player value.
one of your better stepping on a rake posts
Hoffman fucking sucks.
a more suited role. can fill in for Lou when needed.
Jeff Hoffman Last 15 Games
1.99 FIP
13.2 K/9
1.3 BB/9
0.7 HR/9
3/3 SV
6 HLDIf only they had Bo, who is starting to catch fire, to help spark the offense.
last 5 games 3/20 .150
last 10 games 10/42 .238.067 ops+ on the season
-0.3 rwaron fire!!!
The “don’t over think it” idea is exactly what they said about some of these other guys at #1 and we can clearly see which teams got the best players or the “winners”.
It all depends on the offers for McKenna at #1. If the offers are underwhelming, then you just make the pick. If Vancouver wants to get creative, then make a deal that brings you #3, a top prospect, or an extra #1 pick, this year or next. I could see San Jose dangling their 2nd overall, because they want a star defenseman. They too can see the need to grab the best defenseman in the draft. The Leafs really can’t lose if they trade the #1 for #3 plus a top prospect or another 1st. You either get Stenberg or your choice of the 3 defensemen coming behind San Jose, or getting Stenberg. It just needs to make sense. It’s time the Leafs went full blown mercenary and defrock a desperate team trying to look relevant. Vancouver and Chicago are ripe for the picking. Vancouver, because they need someone to sell to their fanbase as a number 1 overall pick and Chicago who needs to start moving up the standings with Connor Bedard wasting his younger years on a team not in contention.
SJ can take one of the D, but i dont see that player making a difference for a few years. looking at the top 10,you can go back to 2020 and maybe 1 Dman has turned into a top pairing D. (Sanderson)
They might be better off trying to trade the pick for a more established D to step in nowYou know, as a late 50’s Western Canadian and an outsider looking in, it’s somewhat fascinating to watch the Leaf organization over the past 40 years. In recent years, the Shanaplan years, they played some good hockey for y’all but they never accomplished anything of note. Just so many poor decisions and a flawed roster resulted. Now you seem to be between a rock and a hard place, do you start over again or do you continue to chase with a flawed roster.
I think landing the #1 pick makes the decision for them, at least in the short term 2 years (AM contract)
I also think how dire the leafs situation is, is being overstated, its the trendy thing to do right now.the Matthews wants to leave narrative is also softening already, I never bought into it, to me it was just like Mcdavid last year.. they wanted change and to see that the team wants to win.
They can trade Matthews, but will never have a player like him again, and will never get anywhere close to fair value.Berube fired I think for AM was a big part, he stunk and so did AM with him as coach.
here are some stats for Mckenna, it looks like his start in NCAA really brought him back to the pack. But he took off in the 2nd half.
if he stayed in the WHL, I dont think it would even be a discussion who should go #1.All the draft stuff iv consumed (a lot) just says, dont over think this, draft Mckenna
https://x.com/NewLeafs2016/status/2057556723943272907?s=20Hoffman got the save!
Jays 16-14 (.533) over their last 30 games (86 win pace) not good enough.
still need the bat to come aliveReid compared to Doughty. Verhoeff compared to Pronger. I mean, this guy seems to just be calling for home runs from everybody and relies heavily on offensive stats while defense and intangibles seem to not matter as much. If that’s the case, the Leafs are still better off with trading down and taking the RHD.
Leafs have failed many times trying to build a team with guys like McKenna (Kessel, Nylander, Tavares etc.). Rather have the 18 year old top pair RHD and worry about acquiring the offense from trading Matthews and Nylander.
any draft comps are going to put out the best case scenario for the player type.
the other comps for Ried was Seth jones.I looked at all the Dmen taken in the 2010-2019 drafts, i would say there were about 9 or 10 true top pair #1 D out of 32, so roughly a 30% chance.
If you end up with a pretty good D, 2/3/4 range..still good but not worth a #1 pick. Dmen are riskyLeafs got Rielly #5, good player but never a #1
I dont care if they trade down and pick one of the D, but it has to be a sure thing, and thats not possible.
Id offer #1 for say Moritz Seider, stud RHD. had some of the best defensive metrics.
Another draft ranking. mainly just based on draft years production.
doesnt make the decision any easier. Stay #1, trade down…who to pickMcKenna did see a drop off in his equivalency from his D-1 to his DY, and as you probably know I don’t like drop offs from your D-1 to DY because the historical data is not kind to it. But McKenna dropped off from one of the absolute highest D-1 equivalencies ever recorded to one in the top 0.01% for DY equivalencies. He switched leagues in his DY (which very few have done before him) to a league that is ~50% harder in competition than the WHL. So I am not concerned about this drop off. Had he stayed in the WHL, he probably would have eclipsed his D-1 equivalency (57), and put up close to 3 points a game.
All that to say… McKenna has the elite, elite model profile that I love. The ‘certain superstar’ profile where every forward drafted before him that looked somewhat similar (D-1 NHLe of 40+, DY NHLe of 50+) has turned into a superstar (a point per game or beyond). Bedard, Celebrini, Hughes, Matthews, McDavid, Eichel, Kane, Crosby… they all looked like this.
He profiles almost exactly like Patrick Kane
Sundin will lean towards Stenberg and Chayka will try to trade down.
I’m not convinced that San Jose would take Stenberg at #2. They may be looking at either trading down to #4 or taking a defenseman at #2. The Leafs could chance it, trading down to #3, if they get a top prospect or another 1st from Vancouver. The Leafs might even try to put Rielly into the trade to gain another prospect or a player they could use. Vancouver really wants to make a splash and bring in McKenna. Make them pay like other franchises made the Leafs pay, when they were after talent.
this is my proposal
Van gets – #1 pick (Mckenna), Rielly
Tor gets – #3 pick (Stenberg/Ried), E PettersonLeafs still get a skilled top 6 player who can contribute now. and either Stenberg or the D they need Ried.
Van gets flashy #1 pick and 3/4 DThis is Pronmans Top 5
1 Chase Reid – Player Comp Seth Jones
2 Alberts Smits – Player Comp Jakob Chychrun
3 Keaton Verhoeff – Player Comp Aaron Ekblad
4 Gavin McKenna – Player Comp Artemi Panarin
5 Ivar Stenberg – Player Comp Jake GuentzelReid is a talented defenseman with a lot of offensive tools. He has the speed, hands, vision and shot to generate chances and be a leading scorer for an NHL team. Reid can create in transition and off the blue line with his feet and creativity, showing high-end improvisation skills. Reid isn’t overly physical, but he works hard enough and makes plenty of stops due to his reach, feet and compete level even while playing an aggressive style of play offensively. He projects as a major minutes NHL defenseman who can run a first power play.
McKenna possesses off-the-charts puck skills, vision and overall offensive creativity. He’s a strong skater who can generate a ton of chances with pace. He’s a pass-first player who projects to run a power play at a high level due to his elite playmaking ability. He’s not overly physical and can be pushed to the outside too much, but despite his frustrating tendencies, coaches still tend to play him a ton at every level. He projects as a top-line winger who can run a PP1
Stenberg is an electric offensive talent. He’s a high-end puck handler, passer and shooter who can make difficult plays with the puck routinely and is a natural scorer. He isn’t that big or mean, but he works hard and has shown he can win battles against men. His frame and good (but not great) small-guy skating will be concerns on his NHL projection. He could be a top-line winger.
Should do and can do are two different things. First, you know MLS&E won’t stand for a full rebuild. They have shareholders to keep happy and a shinny new National Cable package that brings in advertising revenue. The Maple Leafs are the NHL’s most valuable team in regards to revenue sharing. If people don’t come, because the team is in the shitter for 5+ years, that can be an issue for the league. My best bet is a fairly deep retool. They may indeed move Matthews and Nylander, but they’ll want NHL caliber talent coming back, as well as draft capital. The team won’t wait for three years to be a playoff team again. My guess is they’ll be into free agency and build around their current defensive core and goaltending. Their goaltending depth is also an asset. They could easily flip Woll for a first rounder and never miss a beat. Stolarz and Hildeby would suffice as a tandem that makes them competitive next year. Would I like a true rebuild? Sure, but MLS&E won’t. Best case scenario is seeing them acquire another early 1st rounder this year, to go with number 1 and play the longer game of moving assets at the trade deadline, next year. That allows them to short their own first rounder to Philly, next year, forcing it to be in the 15 to 20 range, while securing a better first from another team. Do that and the Boston pick may be irrelevant.
The leafs sucked then tanked and got Nylander, Marner and Matthews in the process even they did not do a full tear down then, they kept Kadri and Rielly.
They are in an even more precarious position now since they dont have 2027/28 firsts. So yeah, they wont be doing a full tear down. And I dont think they need to now, at least until you see how Matthews plays out.If McKenna is hyped as Patrick Kane, Stenberg could be considered Forsberg or Zetterberg. Very few Swedish prospects have scored the way he scored in the SHL this year. Stenberg has outperformed guys like Backstrom, Nylander, Lindholm, Carlsson and many other elite Swedish prospects. And he doesn’t play one-way hockey. His hockey IQ is high and plays two-way hockey. It’s a shame he doesn’t play center but if the battle is between two wingers, Stenberg is the superior all around player. Considering the Leafs have already tried and failed with Nylander as a one-way player, it would be repeating the same mistake all over again. Even if McKenna were the higher offensive output player, we know that when the games matter, what Stenberg brings is more valuable. We have also seen McKenna finish in 2nd (or worse) in the OHL, the WJC and the NCAA when he was considered the best player on the ice amongst his peers. That’s potentially because of his lack of a physical game and a defensive game costs him the games that matter the most. Watching him for Canada, he was the “best” player on the “best” team and did not deliver.
McKenna is not Patrick Kane. The only reason that comparison is appearing is because he punched somebody out in a street fight situation. That comparison is an overshoot. Kane scored 60+ goals in the OHL with 140+ points. He made Sam Gagner and Sergei Kostitsyn look like legit stars and turned them both into 100+ point players. The hype around Kane was that of a legit generational talent. The same can’t be said about McKenna legitimately and the biggest reason for his hype is because he’s the Canadian contender for #1 and the Canadian sports media likes to hype their own guy harder.
In terms of who might dominate the NHL, there’s a strong case to be made for Reid as an offensive, smooth skating, 6’3″ RHD. He could be the next Makar (better than Hischier and Patrick). That, to me, is so much more valuable than a one-way LW. Same could be said about Verhoeff in a different manner as he could be a physically dominating top pair RHD like Ekblad or Hedman. Again, not the “100 point” player but the guy who helps you win when the games matter the most. If the Islanders got to draft 1st overall again in 2009 knowing what they know now, would they take Tavares or Hedman? I’d take Hedman.
It’s not about who will score the most points anymore. It’s about who can you build a winning franchise with and around. You can score all the goals and points you want (in the extreme case like McDavid) but at the end of the season it’s not the singular factor in what builds a winning team anymore.
I am not talking about hype, just the scoring upside and type of player. But Zetterberg is also a comp for Stenberg.
Kane did score 62 goals and 145 points, but in his age 17-18 season.
Mckenna had 129 points in the WHL in his age 16-17 Season. He was over 1 year younger. Its hard to compare his NCAA season to Kane last OHL season.I am not advocating for anyone, my comments are on just what I feel the Leafs will do. But ultimately I have no idea, Chayka can be a wild card sometimes.
