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Well, they played decent in the first period, then it was Colliton bad after that. Can’t worry after one preseason game, many of these guys will be in Rockford or back in Juniors. Bedard was definitely the best player on the ice, the rest besides Soda were meh.
I also like size up the middle, however not all centers in every single line need to have size. Yes, the first wave of centers are not huge, however the second wave of Frondell, Boisvert, Spellacy and Greene all bring size, and my understanding is that Moore is up 195 lbs as well. As the 25/26 season starts, there’s no need to overpay for a McTavish at this time, first KD needs the dust to settle and see what these guys all bring. There are a lot of darts in both offense and defense, eventually they’ll need to move a couple or three of them(no room at the inn)to upgrade a need, that time is not now because we don’t know what the need will be. One thing is for certain, it will probably not be a RD. JMHO
Mr Ricochet
ParticipantHey, Lou…….. i think you under value McTavish and by a good bit. He’s not a middle 6 C, look at the numbers, his floor is 2C IMO. Lou, he was drafted in 2021 and played his 18/19 yr old draft +1 season in the OHL and 9 games with the Ducks then his 19-20-21 yr old seasons with the Ducks. In those 3 yrs he put up 43 in 80 as a 19 yr old rookie, 42 in 64 and last yr and 52 in 76 as a 21 yr old!! At 220 lbs. A centerman in the Bigs. That sound like a middle 6er?.
And as great as Rinzel looks and as great Lev’s traits are they have 27 NHL games between them while McTavish has 229 NHL games playing center as a 220lb 19-20-21 yr old who’s scored at a .61 clip. …. Anything we attribute to Lev and Rinzel today is pure projection but with McTavish we have a 230 NHL game sample size.
And before I forget, I meant to post this in every McTavish post, how do you see Bennett? A middle 6er? What would you give for a blood and guts mother humpin bastard like Bennett for all sorts of reasons and boxes checked? …… Remember now, his high pts for a season is 51!!!
I’m not beating the table for McT but I kinda am. Or at least I’m all for swapping out elite D prospect (system strength, for elite forward prospect (system weakness but less so with the Frondell add) and it just so happenes McTavish fits every box of what I’d love em to add. ……….. I guess for another blog is resource allocation? In 5 yrs if Rinzel and Artie reach their ceilings will it cost 40 mil per to pay em? And if so is that proper asset allocation?
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I hear you Rico, but let’s say that Bedard and Frondell hit their ceiling(could very well happen), that would make McTavish a 3C at $7-8M AAV, I don’t think that is good asset management either. Guys like Bennett and McTavish are valuable to cup contending teams, no doubt, but let’s see how these kids develop before they give up too early on them, especially the seven I mentioned earlier.Not very likely Robin, and neither would I trade McDavid or McKinnon for a RD, however the discussion was related to McTavish, not superstar centers.
Assman22
ParticipantThis doesn’t make sense. There’s just as many #1 RD in the league as there are #1 centers. Which is valued more depends on each team’s situation. Hawks have 8-9 NHL d-men but very few blue chip forwards let alone #1 centers. You trade from a position of excess strength to fill the voids of weakness.
Hawks are built through several drafts. Just like Theo did with the Cubs when he selected all dominant bats with his high picks for several years (Bryant, Schwarber, etc), Hawks shored up the blueline and went heavy with high floor speedy forwards. Theo filled the pitching void in free agency just as Kyle will next summer with the UFA forwards. Sharks did the opposite and will look to fill all their blueline deficiencies with free agency as well.
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There are more legitimate #1 centers in the league than legitimate #1 RD’s, so I’m going to respectfully disagree. Look at the Leafs, they have Matthews as a #1 center, who’s their #1 RD? Let me say this, they are both very important positions on a hockey team, however as much as I like McTavish, he’s not a #1 center. The Hawks are in an envious position to have possibly two legitimate #1 RD’s, I would run with them for the next ten years.Rico,
I respect your hockey knowledge and your opinion, however I do not agree with moving a RD with top pair probability for a middle six center. Both Artie and Rinzel have that type of talent, and while I’d love for the Hawks to acquire McTavish, I’m not willing to pay that price. Bedard, Nazar, Frondell, Vlasic, and the two aforementioned Dmen are part of the future core, I’d have to be blown away to trade any of those six and I would add Knight to this list as well. Who’s to say Frondell won’t turn into a McTavish, he has the same type of skill set and is actually a better skater.No way I’m giving up Artie or Rinzel for McTavish. Those two have a ceiling of top pairing defensemen and that is more valuable than a second/third line center on a good team, which is what McTavish is. Also, like I mentioned earlier, Crevier and a pick will not get it done. I’d love for the Hawks to acquire McTavish, but I wouldn’t give up any core pieces in the deal.
