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Unholy_Goalie
Participanttime will tell who is wrong … in your mind I’m wrong, in mine, I’m correct.
Time has already proven you, among many other Leafs fans and the Leafs management wrong.
When Tavares arrived he was the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL, in his prime.
What did he actually accomplish in 7 years?
No awards. Didn’t lead the league in anything. Won one playoff series.
How the hell can anyone possibly think he’s worth another chance at 35+ if he’s making anything more than 2 million a year as a pure passenger depth piece?
Corey Perry is the model for how Tavares would be useful to a team going forward. But not at 5-7 million a year. Not anymore.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI disagree with your assessment of JT. He was ok with whom he played with. The 2nd line was missing a good 2LW.
If the Leafs had better 2LW than Holmberg or McMann, things could of been better for them but they did not.You are free to disagree and be wrong.
The LW situation does suck but isn’t a strong enough reason for the way they disappeared after Game 3. Especially on the PP for which there is no excuse of having any weak players on the ice.
You can’t have Tavares on the same line or even team as Nylander. They are the same type of player. Both defensively inept and offensively streaky. Nylander wins because he is younger and Tavares offensively disappeared vs the Panthers.
It’s great news that Tavares wants more than 5 AAV and hopefully he’s gone because he sucked at his best, he’ll be useless on his next contract as he approaches 40.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWould love Tavares to sign the Duchene deal
Too bad they both absolutely suck balls in the playoffs, especially defensively.
And that’s exactly why this team will continue to lose.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantinteresting business model for the interwebs that🤔
ban all of your users 👍🏿
we’ll see how it works out i suppose 👍
Or it could be Mike banning the regulars so they come here instead. Makes no sense that number of people are getting banned for literally no good reason.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThat why the Leafs get some of their player(s) into commercials.
Those bullshit commercials don’t pay nearly what people think they do. And again, 55% of it is taken away.
Nashville is a nice place for tax evasion since that state has no state income tax.
Utah, Florida, Tampa, Nashville, Dallas, Vegas…lots of great options for players. Don’t blame them one bit for leaving because it’s by far, way better to live in all those places too.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantspeaking of bonuses. JT won his case vs. The CRA as The CRA did not want to disclose the audit criteria errr something like that. So the judge dropped the case.
For future cap crunching and tax dodging, the Leafs should set up a shell corp. in no income states, get their Canadian players US citizenship and pay them big signing bonus’ like they did with Matthews. If the NHL won’t change the rules, then the Leafs have to get creative and find ways around them.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantpretty much, “They traded 10 years of 1st round picks”
the leafs have had a 1st round pick in 7 of the last 10 drafts. And the 3 they didn’t, these were the 3 first picks Robertson, Knies and Minton.The leafs drafting is average and probably a little better than the average team.
Wrong again, as usual.
2009 – Kadri, traded for garbage. Won a Cup.
2015 – Marner, will walk for nothing. Traded down from 24th to pick Dermott and Bracco, passed on Konecny.
2017 – Liljegren – Traded for Matt Benning; no impact player.
2018 – Sandin – Traded for future 1st round pick. Still no impact player.
2019 – No 1st round pick. Traded for Muzzin. Did nothing. Got overpaid. Retired broken. Drafted Robertson. He mostly sucks, not an impact player.
2020 – Traded 1st round pick to dump Marleau. Traded Kapanen for a 1st round pick. Made a bad pick, poor guy died. No impact player.
2021 – No 1st round pick. Traded for 11 games of Nick Foligno.
2022 – No 1st round pick. Traded to dump Mrazek. Drafted Minten. Traded him too.
2023 – Traded for 24 games of O’Reilly rental. Picked Cowan with the pick they got for Sandin. Still no impact player.
2024 – Traded down. Picked Danford. No impact player yet.
2025 – Traded for McCabe. 2nd pair D.
2026 – Traded for Carlo. Another 2nd pair D.
2027 – Traded for Laughton. Retarded trade.So 10+ years of 1st round picks have indeed been traded or wasted, most of them got us garbage in return. Carlo, McCabe, Laughton (1 year rental), Cowan, Danford. That’s what the Leafs have to show for 10 years of 1st round picks.
The Leafs being “average” isn’t going to win them shit especially when they throw away as many 1st round picks as they have.
Florida traded their 1st and 2nd round pick capital for Marchand and Seth Jones. That’s what your top picks are actually supposed to get you in return. Not a bunch of garbage rentals or spare parts for 10 years of trash.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantIt’s a shame. It’s not just the Canadian teams that suffer, but the Rangers, Isles, Devils, etc, play in Blue, overtaxed states. Bettman is a clown, to allow this to continue. He’d rather do fellatio on the new bidder for the Atlanta Stars and Bars, than fix this inequity and keep another Canadian franchise from gaining entry into the NHL. He needs to leave now!
The Leafs fucked themselves with the Tavares contract. They have nobody to blame but themselves. They’ll make the same mistake again by keeping him for a 2nd futile contract and not trading Rielly.
They trade 10 years worth of 1st round picks, they can’t draft or develop enough impact players and they let great players leave for nothing.
Leafs are run by idiots. Different names, same results.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWatching what?
Marner becoming a second/third liner on another team and riding the goat tails of actual playoff performers to a cup victory?No team close in the hunt for cup will sign marner to the contract he wants. If he wants $13 – 14m, he’ll sign with team thats still 3 – 4 years out.
Marner is gone.
Get over it.Watching you be wrong, as usual.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantthe NHL doesn’t doesn’t care about this. It’s moot point as the NHL will not fix this.
I’m not saying the NHL does care or will fix it. But the players care about what they take home and that factors into what they ask for from certain teams.
People can’t sit there and pretend like the guys in Florida are “good boys taking discounts” and players signing in Toronto are “greedy” because the reality of what they take home is different than the cap hit.
This boils down to the Leafs absolutely sucking at drafting, developing and managing their assets. They traded 10 years of 1st round picks away, they don’t develop enough impact players, they let their best players walk for nothing and they bring back garbage players because they’ll take a “discount” so they can afford to sign more garbage players.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Unholy_Goalie
Participant14mil vs 8.6
mitchy not a good use of that cap…if you want to win in the playoffs that is
10.9 AAV is 5.1 taken home in Toronto. 8.6 is 5.5 taken home in Florida.
If Reinhart was a UFA this year, he’d be asking for 16 AAV from the Leafs and 12 AAV from Florida. He became a UFA at the wrong time.
Everybody also said “you can’t win a Cup spending 10 million on a goalie” when they signed Bob. Guess they could. Twice.
Stay dense.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThe core 4 all lack that killer instinct that players like McDavid, Drai, Marchand, and Reinhart all have. Those guys passionately hate to lose, our guys just kinda like to win maybe if it works out. Mitch is gone, that much is known. Now where do we go from here.
You throw the names of McDavid and Draisaitl in there but they didn’t get the job done either. McDavid only had 1 goal in the series. He’s the best player in the world and Florida still stopped him. Florida also kept Kucherov, the MVP and Art Ross winner, to 0 goals the past 2 playoff runs. That should tell you how good Florida is, not the lack of a “killer instinct of the core” when the Leafs, specifically Matthews, Marner and Knies, each had a GWG against Florida and pushed them further than any other team this playoffs.
I still believe in what is left of the core.
If you still believe in Rielly and Tavares as part of the core, I have a bridge to sell you. Nylander can’t handle the load, especially defensively, that Marner had to carry. And without Marner, Matthews and the PP will suffer.
This upcoming season is going to be a step back, there is almost no way to avoid that. But Tre has to find a way to bring in a difference maker in the next two years. Obviously, the #1 option is McDavid. I was certain he’d re-sign once Drai did, but after the way things went last night, he may finally realize that Edmonton is capped out, have HUGE holes to fill, and people just generally don’t want to play there. The Leafs are closer to a cup than just about any team out there, and he probably knows he’s got what it would take to put this team over the top. It’s a long shot, but not outside the realm of possibility.
If the Leafs let Marner walk and bring back Tavares and Rielly, they are nowhere near winning a Cup. They’ll be lucky to make it out of the 1st round.
So the Leafs can’t afford Marner but they’ll bring in McDavid at what will be the highest salary in history. If McDavid knew what was good for him, he’d never play in Toronto after what they’ve done to their own and after the garbage they keep bringing back.
Since option #1 is a long shot, now Tre has to earn his money. This years UFA class is thin, but in a year there are some heavy hitters. Very curious to see how things shake out.
It won’t be curious. This team is managed by morons. Treliving won’t do a damn thing to move this team forward just like he failed in Calgary.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantMitch is gone, quite your whining. He is choosing to leave
Oh and the below has been posted many times before…but its worth a look again
From cush
The Core Four in Games 5, 6, and 7 from 2019-2025Nylander – 20 Games Played, 8 Goals, and 8 Assists
Matthews – 18 Games Played, 8 Goals and 4 Assists
Tavares – 17 Games Played, 5 Goals and 5 Assists
Marner – 20 Games Played, 0 Goals, and 7 Assists7 assists. GARBAGE.
In fact, for the amount of money being spent on all four….they’re all garbage results. Specially MArner and Matthews. Simply arent playoff warriors. -fakechangeEnjoy watching this, 2.0.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantTavares scored 2 goals in the series just as much as Mitch and Matthews combined. but really who gives a shit.
In a game 2 loss (that he was shit defensively in), not a win. Also on the ice for the most goals against but who gives a shit, just keep bringing back the same old, slow, garbage DNA that disappeared in 6 out of 7 games.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantMcDavid only 1 (meaningless) goal in the series. At least the 1 goal that Marner and Matthews scored were GWGs.
And the Leafs took them to Game 7.
But definitely blow up the team.
That’s gonna work wonders.
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