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Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWell, the Leafs still have their 2027 1st rnd pick to Philli which is top 10 protected according to the NHL.
Top 5 protected, slides to 2027. The 2027 pick goes to Philadelphia (as part of Laughton trade) if it is outside the top 10, which converts this pick to Boston to a 2028 unprotected 1st Round Pick. If this Pick slides to 2027 and is in the top 10, TOR can either transfer it to BOS to satisfy this trade and then give PHI the 2028 unprotected, or transfer it to PHI and give BOS the 2028 unprotected 1st Round Pick.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantKeep moving those goalposts and being a fucking moron, to not just admit you make shit up and to go back to his 2018-20-19 season in the AHL when he was a -10 to try and pretend you were not full of shit is classic room temp. IQ, moron you. I guess you missed the fact he was a +19 in the AHL in 2022-2023 eh fuckhead?
What’s next you going to pull up someone’s stats from 1 season in peewee hockey to prove a point you fuckling idiot.
Do we now apply your logic & say Marner is going to go back to being the -1 player he was in 2017-2018 in the NHL as a Leaf over 82 games?
Sit down, and shut the fuck up.
Leave it up to the totally brain dead, window licking Retard Ranger to try and compare a one year wonder like Raddysh to Marner’s -1 as a sophomore. I’m sure Raddysh is going to be +50 when they put a goalie not named Vasilevskiy behind him.
I bet you’re still waiting for Bryan McCabe and Morgan Rielly to live up to their contracts too, aren’t you Retard Rangers. Keep waiting. Make sure you hold your breath until it happens.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantDraft Talk!
Iv really only seen 1 mock draft take someone over Mckenna at #1
I have seen a few that put Carels over Ried for the Dmen.Its got to e Mckenna for the Leafs.
Bukala has Stenberg at #1 and considering his work with the Predators and the Panthers, his rankings hold a lot more weight than most others. Leafs should probably hire him actually.
Stenberg is the better overall player and despite not being big, he’s not a pencil neck like McKenna either. Stenberg has better work ethic on the ice, better two-way hockey sense and his offensive skills are pretty elite considering his scoring record in Sweden that was way better than most other elite Swedish prospects of the past two decades.
Sundin better step in with his Swedish mandate and take the best overall player which is Stenberg. Leafs already have a one-way wing in Nylander, they don’t need another.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantthis is a pretty odd statement on Maccelli, he was a 4th round pick, and getting a player who scores 45-50 points out of the 4th round is pretty much a home run.
If he was drafted 5th overall or something, I guess he sucks?
if you look at the 2, 3 and 4th rounds from 2019 he is 4th in points per game. thats a got to be one of the best picks he made.
like wtfFor a 4th round pick, Maccelli is a good value pick but still ultimately a bad player and doesn’t help this team win a Cup. If that’s the best Chayka has, he should be fired today.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantIf your going to call people retarded maybe you should try not creating strawman arguments, and telling half the story making yourself look like one?
Matthews missed 22 games, Tanev 48, Stolarz 45, Woll big chunks early and late season, Knies 25 games, Domi over 35 games but you knew this already and just decided it didn’t fit your stupid fucking narrative.
Of course you blasted past the point of the original post because your too stupid to understand it – you are the moron who double talks on here non-stop and provides what can be seen as valid reasons (aka excuses) for a lack of success for any team not named the Toronto Maple Leafs but refuse to apply that same rationale to the Leafs.
Your bias is next level and your willingness to make up shit, omit or distort facts and just be a complete and utter moron is astounding but consistent.
Rage on you waste of skin, rage on.
And again Retard Ranger, the Panthers had worse injuries to more important players. The Leafs just sucked. How did Montreal and Tampa Bay make the playoffs with MORE games lost to injuries while the Leafs were a lottery team? Tanev missed 71 games you fucking retard, you can’t even get your own numbers straight. But of course you got your head so far up your own ass you can’t even read numbers anymore.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThis isnt GM mode on the PS5….why the hell would the leafs retain a minimum of 12$ of wasted cap space? Who is giving up 6 -7 1st rounders? Thats so fucking stupid and unrealistic.
Also, the leafs do not have their 1st rounders for the next two years and they need players to fill the line up….they cant sell off everyone.Get back to reality
Was Ottawa playing GM mode on PS5 when they traded Tkachuk for 3 1st round picks? Was Carolina playing GM mode when they got 3 1st round picks for Rantanen?
Sorry dipshit but players get traded in the NHL and guys like Matthews and Nylander would be worth a lot with 50% retained. Contenders are giving up a lot of draft capital, young roster players and top prospects for pieces at the deadline. Happens every single year. You’re just too stupid to know it or remember. The Leafs could rebuild their entire roster by selling off their biggest assets.
Yes, if the Leafs suck this year, miss the playoffs or even lose in the 1st round again, they absolutely can and should sell off everyone. Bringing in a dozen 1st round picks is way more valuable than worrying about the 1st they traded away.
Reality is, this team sucks and needs to be rebuilt if you want to win a Cup. If you want to keep watching them lose when it matters, keep burying your head in the sand.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantHayton could also be a dark horse as a C the Leafs pursue.
He was a Chayka draftee.Blueger could be another option as well if he makes it to UFA status.
But why do the Leafs need Hayton and why does Utah want to get rid of him? Chayka draftees mostly suck. Look at Maccelli.
He’s not really a shutdown center, he’s 26 so he’s not super high on potential and he had 10 goals, 25 points. And that’s WITH 2 min of PP time per game. That’s a giant meh. And an RFA.
I don’t see the benefit or the point in giving up assets to acquire Hayton unless Utah takes back Maccelli or Robertson as a 1 for 1 swap of RFAs.
Blueger would be lower on my list but an option if the others disappear. Would much prefer Jenner, Sissons, Acciari and Stenlund. All 4 could probably be signed for 12 million.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantMacTavish and Zellweger
Robertson Carlo Colorado 1st and Stolarz
Anaheim would say no and it also solves zero of the Leafs problems.
The Leafs priority should be to add four (yes four) high FO% centers to the team. Jenner (3C), Sissons (3RW), Stenlund (4C) and Acciari (4RW).
None of them are big scorers but it would take 100% of the D-Zone FOs away from Matthews and Tavares while still guaranteeing you win 55-60% of the FOs overall. It puts Matthews and Tavares in the O-Zone full time and keeps them healthy.
This would increase the FO%, increase the forecheck, increase possession and keeps the PK strong.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI don’t get that one at all. We just dumped Woll to avoid carrying 3 tendies, and now there is talk of brining in Bob? He’s a good goalie, but very much helped by the team in front of him. And, he’s old. Pass for me.
Bob was an elite goalie. He helped the guys in front of him as much as they helped him. If he played for the Oilers, they’d have two Cups and Florida would have zero. But he’s about to be 38 and the Leafs love signing players until they’re ancient so it’s par for the course.
Panthers could also be telling Bob they’re moving on to the next elite goalie (Hellebuyck) and they’re allowing him to talk to their division rivals so he can become another anchor for them.
Carlo, Raddysh, and now maybe Bob. Leafs LOVE being the dumping ground for the best teams in the division.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantBob’s agent has always squeezed teams for every penny. I remember before Bob went to FLA, I wanted the Leafs to sign him but when he went to FLA everybody thought he was overpaid. His contract started bad but then he came back into form as the multiple Vezina winner he was and became a multiple Cup winner. He’ll be 38 at the start of the season, so he could just be talking to the Leafs through back channels to get the Panthers to increase their offer and increase the length of the deal because word was he wanted a long term contract. It would make no sense for the Leafs unless it was 2 years or less.
If Bob wants to win another Cup, there’s really only four places he should consider. Carolina, Vegas, Florida and Edmonton. Those are the only teams that need him and where he fits.
If Bob wants to be grossly overpaid and never win shit because the D in front of him expects him to make 40 saves every game, he should come to Toronto. That would probably happen in Edmonton too but at least they have McDavid.
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