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The free agent market is marginal. There is Darren Radyysh, a right shooting UFA defenseman and Alex Tuch at right wing, also a UFA. Costly, but doable. Moving Nylander for picks and or prospects would alleviate the Cap issue, if you wanted to add one of the two top UFA’s. The Leafs have to look at it like this: Rogers will not tolerate a full tear down. Give it a year and if Matthews wants out, accommodate him. It could happen by the trade deadline. There’ll be opportunities, when free agency opens, if a team is afraid of losing a highly sought RFA via offer sheet, they may need to find some cap space to accommodate the player, see Leo Karlsson in Anaheim. Use your cap space to grab a Mason McTavish in exchange for a lesser asset, since Cap is going to mean a lot to those type of teams. Asset management is the key to the Leafs returning to respectability.
Tuch and Raddysh would be retards to sign with the Leafs. They both are on contenders and had career years. Unless the Leafs grossly overpay them, there is no reason for them to join a garbage team for equal or less money.
Rogers can and will tolerate a rebuild. The tickets will still be sold even if the team was monkeys throwing their own shit at each other.
The only players the Leafs should be acquiring are guys like Adin Hill. Terrible contract with a 1st round pick.
You have to play the game. If Vancouver, that has a hard on for him, want him, the price is #3 and either another 1st or a top prospect that was probably a 1st last year. In Vancouver, they have tickets to sell and they want to sell the sizzle. Same thing for Calgary. I still think San Jose passes over Stenberg for a defenseman and Stenberg falls to #3. Calgary is a different story, but they have a lot of young talent in the pipeline and you can still draft one of the big 3 defensemen.
At the end of the draft, the reality is, the Leafs still won’t have a generational talent to build the team around whether they draft 1st or trade down. They won’t have a guy who steps into the NHL right away and turns them into a contender again either. They had a zoom meeting with Matthews today, which I thought was a fucking joke. If you’re serious about meeting Matthews, either fly him in or go see him in Arizona. But these meetings need to start being the discussions of where Matthews wants to play next because they need to blow this team up.
The UFA market is terrible. The Leafs have no assets to upgrade through trade either. Hopefully by January, Matthews is playing well individually but the team is doing poorly and everybody involved decides it’s time to trade him and blow up the whole team.
Stenberg is having a great WHC. If the Leafs draft him, it would be nice to see if they can convert him into a center. Winning FOs isn’t easy but if they start the transition from Day 1, it could pay off a few years from now. That’s the huge mistake they made with Marner.
I said 2017 Makar year right in my post? why so dense?
Also, I said ignoring all the drafts a D was taken #1, as they Leafs would have taken a D #1 that year also.
and Dahlin vs Q hughes is close. Both top pair #1, nobody would have traded down from Dahlin to take Hughes that year. so thats a dumb point. besides like I fucking mentioned, that year is excluded because a D was #1 anyway.you just argue for the sake if it, dont care to read or actually have a normal discussion, you have to have an enemy at all times to feel value, its sad
And again, this is not a generational talent draft. This is one of those years where passing on McKenna isn’t a problem given his clear flaws just like Lafreniere. The Leafs have had players like McKenna before. It failed. It’s doing the same dumbass shit and expecting different results. Stenberg would be harder to pass on as he is actually a complete player so at least he would be a deviation from being enthralled by one-dimensional, small wingers who scored in junior but don’t have the defensive game or the competitive drive to win you the games that matter.
dont worry there is just as much leaf hate and that includes Leaf fans.
I dont care about what Marner is doing, just wish it happened with the Leafs.
They tried to sign him and then tried to trade him, Marner blocked both…nothing you can do. they missed the window before his ntc kicked in to Move him for a better return. I doubt most teams would have traded him then, but I suppose some would have. but they dont get nearly the attention the Leafs do.Absolutely wrong. They “tried” to sign him with a bullshit offer. Clearly, they didn’t realize what his true value to the team was. Throwing an elite player a low-ball offer is not “trying” to sign him. They “tried” like retards and they failed miserably.
Marner didn’t accept a trade because he didn’t want to leave Toronto. He wanted to stay and do what he is doing now. The Leafs, instead of making him a proper offer, made him the scapegoat. And total retards bought it hook, line and sinker. They thought, collectively, they’d be better off spending the money on 3rd liners. They became a lottery team as a reward for their dumbass idea. And now Marner is making every single one of these people like look like complete and total retards.
The Leafs planted shit seeds and watered it with piss then wondered why a shit apple tree sprout from the ground.
Bichette has a 72 wRC+
thats hitter’s total offensive value compared to the league average, while adjusting for park factors and era. A wRC+ of 100 is league averageSo Bo in fact is not productive, he has been well below League average.
Its fucking hilarious you die on the stupidest hills. lolAnd other than this year and one other due to injuries, his wRC+ has always been between 120 and 143. So, again, despite playing like shit on a terrible team he still has more HRs and RBI than Vlad and would be helping the Jays not lose to the fucking Marlins with 2 runs on 10 hits.
What is fucking hilarious is how you are dying on this retarded hill that the Jays need another elite bat in the order but are still going to miracle their season around but Bo can’t possibly get better or would have helped this team get back to where it was last year when he was a league leader in hits and obviously the straw that stirred the drink.
Retarded just like you were on the Marner train.
But heaven forbid Rogers overpays a player to keep the band together. Nah, we need those multi-billion dollar companies to spend less.
Habs can’t get a single shot in all of OT. Only 12 all game. They deserve to lose most games. Lucky to have even made it this far. It’s like watching a lucky version of the Leafs.
missing the point again of course. Trading down to pick a D. that the the Leafs need more ..according to a lot of people.
its not Nugent-Hopkins vs. Landeskog, which is dumb thats basically a toss up. but it would be Nugent-Hopkins vs trading down to #4 to select Adam Larsson. the first D taken, or whoever was the projected top D in the draft.
also, I wouldnt care if my team to RNH or Landeskog, both ended up as good NHLs players. worth the picks. 1000 points for RNHNo team is good enough to know for sure that trading down from #1 to 3 or 4 to select a D is the right move. its way to risky and based on all info..will end up looking really bad
Again, missing the clear examples of guys like Seider, Makar and Hughes NOT going 1st overall in recent years and yet being better than whoever was drafted 1st overall.
This draft could easily be one of those years where the defects with McKenna (small, questionable drive, no defense, winger, one-dimensional) make it much easier for the Leafs to trade down and not regret it as the top end D in this draft are rather strong and provide the Leafs with attributes they don’t have and have struggled to acquire.
McKenna < 3rd + 24th overall or 5th + 26th overall.
sounds like he wont be ready for the season, and indefinitely leaves to door open for a longer absence.
I dont care if he stood up for him, get better players who do the same but are not disasters defensively but also can contribute more than 30 points.
hes a tweener who is not good enough to play top line with Matthews (or anyone) and not good enough def. to play 3/4 line not to mention to expensive for all that he brings.you like plus minus he was -29. At least JT scores 30 goals and 70 points for his deficiencies
Domi is trash defensively. There’s never been a doubt about that. He was -29, Tavares -28 and Knies was -30. Clearly, there’s a problem there defensively with these guys.
The issue is, in either scenario, whether the Leafs retardedly retool or they rebuild, Domi provides a service and a value.
First of all, he actually wants to play in Toronto, which is going to become more and more rare as the team gets worse and worse and Toronto in general becomes a less desirable place to play.
Secondly, he plays hard when the games matter. If the Leafs find themselves back in the playoffs, by some miracle, Domi brings heart and determination that win you important games if used correctly.
Third, he sticks up for his teammates and plays with passion. If the Leafs rebuild, that’s the type of guy you need around the younger players. You also want him to get increased ice time so that A) the team loses and B) the Leafs have a player with some padded stats you can trade at a deadline for draft capital when his contract expires.
doing the trading down exercise, I saw this on another website.
Trade the 1st overall pick in previous drafts for 3rd OA plus a late 1st and prospect. etc.
go back and see how it would turn out.spoiler, keeping #1 and taking the best player is the best option for pretty much the last 15 drafts.
clear exceptions are. ignoring all the drafts a D was taken #1, the Leafs biggest “need” by most accounts a dman2020 Jake Sanderson vs Lafreniere
2017 Heiskanen / Makar vs Hischier2023 Just some example, would you rather have Bedard or say, first D picked…Reinbacher and E Cowan plus another depth prospect?
2019 Jack Hughes or Bowen Byram plus Connor McMichael plus another depth prospectWrong again. There are plenty of 1st overall busts and plenty of recent examples where the best player from the draft was not 1st overall.
2010: Hall vs Seguin. Seguin won.
2011: Nugent-Hopkins vs. Landeskog. Landeskog won.
2012: Yakupov vs Everybody else. Yakupov sucked.
2013: MacKinnon vs Barkov. MacKinnon has scored more points and goals but Barkov has more Cups (way better two-way player too).
2014: Ekblad vs. Reinhart. They won Cups together eventually. #3 Draisaitl way more goals and points than both. Florida with the #1, #2 and #4 (Bennett) pick. Leafs should do the same.
2015: McDavid vs. Eichel. Best player in the world is McDavid, no doubt, but Eichel has the Cup and chasing a 2nd this year.
2016: Matthews vs. Laine. Matthews has the best regular season stats but Tkachuk went 6th and he’s got a Cup.
2017: Hischier vs Patrick. Makar went 4th. Clearly the best player from the draft. Heiskanen went 3rd.
2018: Dahlin vs Svechnikov. Quinn Hughes went 7th.
2019: J. Hughes. Seider has been better at 6th overall. Caufield was 15th overall and has more goals. Boldy was 12th overall and comparable.
2020: Lafreniere. Stutzle (3rd), Raymond (4th) and Jarvis (13th) have all been better players.If the Leafs scouting department is good at what they do, they could easily trade down and get the better combination of players by trading down.
The only way the argument for “keep 1st overall” is if the draft yielded an actual generational talent like McDavid. McKenna is not McDavid. He has serious flaws in his game. Flaws that this franchise has dealt with and failed with in the past. The Leafs would be retarded to repeat the same mistakes again expecting different results.
The Jays in fact are currently one of the worst teams at getting on base.
Jays ob% .307 – 26th in the League
Mets are last .293you know this stuff can be looked up right?
So despite the Mets being terrible, he still has more RBI than Vlad and you proved yourself to be retarded in proving that the Jays having a better OB% would mean he’d be even better on the Jays.
Bo playing at his worst is still being productive on a terrible team. The Jays fucked up. They went cheap, they lost an elite hitter and are now struggling with hitting. You’ll learn the hard way like you did with Marner. It will just take time for you to realize it but continue to deny it.
Im sure Domi is a fine person to hang out with
he can hang with Chayka up in the box.He will hang with him after the games when he’s done playing.
Love how the retards were raging nobody defended Matthews but are so quick to jettison the one guy that did.
And yet despite that still has more HRs and RBIs than Vlad.
lol this pretty much encapsulates what you are all about.
never ever able to admit a tiny little bit you might be wrong. just always dig into a position. the most confident when wrong. just a sickness.there is Hr and RBI, thats the 2 stats Bo has on Vlad, every other measurable stat is advantage Vlad. not to mention RBI is a weak stat, relies heavily on someone to get on base in front of you, which they have no control over, not a stat anyone uses anymore to asses player value.
one of your better stepping on a rake posts
The Jays can get on base. They have problems bringing them in.
Your ability to cope into rakes is amazing.
If only they had Bo, who is starting to catch fire, to help spark the offense.
last 5 games 3/20 .150
last 10 games 10/42 .238.067 ops+ on the season
-0.3 rwaron fire!!!
And yet despite that still has more HRs and RBIs than Vlad.
