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Unholy_Goalie
Participantif only Marner didnt block the Rantanen trade.
If only Leafs management wasn’t run by retards.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantKadri isn’t worth much… he isn’t a top liner on a competitive team. The leafs also had JT and Matthews so Kadri was nothing more than a waste of space at C on the cap on a rebuilding team.
Keep pouting.
Not worth much, just a Cup playing on the 2nd line.
Oh…they had JT?! Wow! He won them how many Cups as the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL to be a 2C?!
And what are idiot Leafs fans so happy about now? Having a 2nd line 35 year old center who makes 4.4. Go figure.
The Leafs had no playoff snarl and playoff scoring depth; the exact thing you bitch and moan about being the reason they don’t win in the playoffs. The exact reason you’re happy Marner is gone, so they can replace him with 8 goal, 18 point players.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantAre you gonna do the same for Bozak as well?
Kadri and bozak werent part of the core….yes Kadri was a 2nd line center but he was behind guys like McK, Makar, Toews, Rant, Lehkonen, landeskog…maybe even nicbushkin.Neither were missing pieces to a leafs cup run.
So enough with this BS.
Vegas has already won a cup, and prior to Marner signing, already had a great team. Marner may win a cup on vegas…..we’ll see. But vegas already has a great teamYou’re comparing apples to tire irons.
Bozak left as a UFA for 5 AAV. Kadri was traded for garbage, stupidly, while he was still making 4.25. He was a bargain. On Colorado, he was on their 2nd line, point per game player in their Cup run with 2 GWG. He was always a playoff guy and the Leafs, who badly needed that, threw him away for a pile of dog shit. They spent the next 5 years trying to replace Kadri at the deadline by throwing away 1st round picks and prospects. Foligno, ROR, Laughton, etc. all to try and bring back what they gave away with Kadri. Same will now happen with Marner. They couldn’t replace Kadri. They have no hope in hell of replacing Marner.
Vegas won the Cup and half their team is gone now. They haven’t won it in years. They’re contenders but they aren’t the Florida Panthers.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantOh right, and Kadri was the core player of that team lol
Oh right, Kerfoot and Barrie were co-Conn Smythe winners when the Leafs won the Cup.
Just like Roy and Maccelli will be when they win it this year.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantlol he let go of the guy to let him go fight someone else.
Can’t wait til the Americans realize what a soft piece of shit he is lol.
Just like you couldn’t wait for Colorado to realize Kadri takes too many suspensions and will never win a Cup in Colorado.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantRight. OEL is an LHD – and his best results were on the left-side. Benoit being left-handed and having his best results on the right-side is just one of those things.
In terms of Carlo – in 2022-23 the Boston Bruins had the 4th best points percentage of any team in NHL history. Carlo was principally paired with Lindholm in 2nd pair duties; he was very effective. That same pairing was the Bruins best pairing in the playoffs against Florida. He is a perfectly fine top-4 defenseman and has proven so on one of the best teams in over a century. His 5v5 ice time was lower than some of the other pairings but he led the team in penalty killing ice time so his distribution was affected that way.
You can’t really compare Jones to Carlo – they play entirely different roles. Jones had an effective playoff paired with Mikkola. Mikkola gave Jones freedom and he was good with that room – but don’t start thinking Jones is a defensive stalwart. He had a good couple of months playing beside a monster of a man who was allowed, because of the NHL playoffs, to commit a lot more infractions than would normally be tolerated. Jones did excel in his minutes and I won’t take that away from him, but in the regular season with Florida where the rules are just called normally, Jones was really mediocre – which is where he’s been for the past several seasons.
Carlo’s role is to provide a similar amount of freedom to his partner – who is unfortunately Rielly. I’ll agree that Carlo isn’t nasty enough but he uses size effectively down low and Rielly both didn’t do enough to make use of that freedom afforded to him nor did he do anything to contribute to the defensive requirements of his pairing. He had an awful and an awful second round against Florida.
It’s usually best to keep the LHD on the left and the RHD on the right, except in rare situations like the PP.
I was saying Tanev is not Seth Jones, not Carlo. But you’re right, neither is like Jones. Jones could take over a game. He did more than once against the Leafs. The Leafs don’t have that, on the left or the right. They just have Rielly who does have tremendous playoff puck luck offensively but terrible defensively. And year after year, it’s cost them in the playoffs.
And yes, in Boston, the way they play hockey, Carlo benefited. I don’t see the Leafs playing that same style that would benefit him as much for the Leafs. Neither one of them played very well against Florida and that’s part of the problem when you look at the Leafs team. You have to consider that they will be the team to beat for the next 1-3 years. And Tampa Bay isn’t completely gone away either. I don’t see either Tanev or Carlo being strong enough without another strong RHD to balance the work load.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThanks for the vid.
Ya marner was never ever compared to Gilmour, so not sure where that came up…UG?
Thats a foolish thing to say.
But in the vid, he ties up man, things break off and teams are about to go back to the benches, then 4 fights break out….but there isnt a 5th person involved for marner to grab….the 5th lightning is off to the side. Those fights subside and surgachev and marner get into and Schenn jumps in. Marner’s not fighter…never was. Could he have been a little more involved there, sure. Its not like he did nothing, like the out of context still was trying to show.Anywho, marner is gone, the leafs will miss him during the reg season and the first 4 games of a playoff round…saying otherwise is kinda foolish imo.
But the leafs never made it past the 2nd round with him, matthews, nylander and JT. Time for a change. Saying the leafs will die without him is also kinda foolish imo.
Will things be worse, better? Dunno, we’ll see. Gotta wait 10 months to see how they play in the playoffsAnd it may even take more than one off season to improve the overall line up.
Actually, the Gilmour thing came from the bitchy Dozzer who said Marner would have got his ass kicked in that locker room but then get wrecked by the truth when Wendel Clark said Marner reminded him of Gilmour.
The video clearly shows that Marner wasn’t just standing there the entire time. It’s taken out of context which is what bitches with a vendetta do because they’re a brain damaged coward.
Marner tied a guy up, the scrum settled, Point went off the ice injured and then re-ignited afterwards. If Marner had jumped anybody who was already dancing with somebody else, he gets an extra penalty and that’d be something for the bitches to cry about that Marner took a penalty in the playoffs.
Team will definitely be worse.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI know almost nothing about Thrun, but considering we got him for a $1.3M cap dump attached to a player that brings almost nothing positive to the table, I can’t imagine Thrun is going to make any noticeable impact in the NHL. Hope I’m wrong.
I haven’t been paying much attention to the Leafs lately, are there really Karlsson rumors? Gross, avoid at all costs. Not what we need at all.
Left handed Timmins.
You won’t be wrong.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI forgot about Mermis. Of course it’s sort of easy to given that he’s 31 and has 78 career NHL games.
Obviously not sure, but I’m thinking depth-wise, the Leafs have
RHD
Tanev
Carlo
Ekman-Larsson
Myers
Benning <– almost forgot about him
RifaiLHD
Rielly
McCabe
Benoit
Thrun
Mermis
WebberOEL is not a RHD. He’s a LHD who plays on the right side. And poorly. He shouldn’t be on the right side except if it’s on the PP. The Leafs knew this which is why they signed Hak but that didn’t pan out.
The Leafs RHD situation, as always, is poor. Tanev is 35+ and on a Cup winner, he’s a great 2nd pair guy. But he’s not Seth Jones. Not even close. Carlo, when Boston was great, was on the 3rd pair. It’s a shame he plays such a timid game for his size because he could be a force if he played with snarl. But he doesn’t. It’s a big problem made even bigger with the fact that Rielly is a pylon defensively.
This Leafs blueline may have already peaked last year because it’s going to be very old and very bad, very soon with next to nothing in the pipeline to make that better. By time Danford is in the NHL full time, half the guys on our blueline will be retired or on Robidas Island.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantStill waiting for a realistic explanation of how they fix the tax issue. You going to change 32 team’s cap hit each year based on federal, state/provincial and municipal tax changes?
There’s two very simple solutions.
One is to allow teams to go over the cap by 10% with a dollar for dollar luxury tax that goes directly into the revenue sharing pool. Perhaps only allow teams to use the luxury tax for 2 or 3 years in a row so the same teams don’t always abuse it year after year similar to how teams can’t win too many lottery picks in row anymore.
The second is to use “dollars taken home by the players” as the new cap. If a contract is signed and the taxes change, that contract is grandfathered from the day it was signed.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI won’t miss him.
Because you like it when the Leafs lose.
In regards to the out of context photo, you’re right, Marner should have been the 3rd man in and taken a penalty. That’s what a really smart, all-time great player would have done. He’s such a moron.
Or better yet, he should have chased Point into the locker room and punched him while the medical staff was treating his injury after Rielly threw him into the boards. If he had done that, the Leafs would have at least 5 Cups in a row by now.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantAll you do is cry about what you don’t like, you’re the baby, not me. I’m not upset at all, just making fun of how lame you are.
And yes, I’ll happily take a couple secondary guys over Marner, at least they full games and do more than handle and pass the puck.
Go cheer on Vegas, you obviously like Marner more than the Leafs.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantNot raging at all.
Just calling you what you are.
If you honestly believe this team was fully leaning on a 4th overall pick who never once won a significant award your logic needs some work.
That’s a lot of personal attacks, seems like rage. It’s probably all your rage that’s blocking your ability to realize it.
I honestly believe that Roy and Maccelli, along with their Art Ross and Hart trophies, will win the Leafs the Cup. You convinced me.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantArgument, wrecked.
Oh yeah I’m sure he would have spoken openly about it on the media. Fuck you’re stupid. I said the dressing room specifically for a reason.
Have you ever even played the sport you dense fuck nut?
Wrong and raging about it. Go figure.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantUG is here with his “Leafs are crashing” pouting again.
The guy is just a Canadian player fan and it’s pretty fucking obvious. Look at Clark and Gilmour on his pic. If Marner was on the team when those two were Mitch would have had his ass beat in the dressing room routinely playing like the whiny ass little pussy that he is.
Argument, wrecked.
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