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Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI knew after Kap finally had a good playoff game that someone would post some stupidity about Toronto letting him go 6 YEARS AGO!!
Nevermind Pitts and St louisYa the Leafs have really missed his 14 to 30 pts every year since.
Kap had a good game, good for him.Yeah, much better to have a pile of shit like Maccelli at 4 times the price and miss the playoffs entirely.
You missed the broader point but you usually do so that’s no surprise.
Unholy_Goalie
Participanti would have never dreamed of trading matthews until this season. and not because of him, but because he is wasted here. toronto is wasting matthews the way that edmonton is wasting mcdavid. an elite generational talent just pissed away on mediocre teams. what really killed me and pushed me into trade territory was the gudas hit. gudas should have been gang piled by everyone on the ice, including the goalie. fuck that. you don’t target the teams captain and star player and no retaliation? what the actual fuck? matthews must have felt like shit knowing he was targeted by a notorious goon and his teammates just blew it off like it meant nothing. because it did mean nothing to spineless shits like rielly, willy, and carlo. if i was matthews, my mind would have been made up right then. i’d want out. fuck those guys.
trade matthews and set him free. like phil, he’ll win a cup somewhere else. it pains me to say it. i can’t believe i’m saying it but here we are.
i’m on the fence about willy. trade him if the return is right, but i don’t think he brings much in return for trade value versus what he’s worth to the team. the only pure oneway floating sniper winger we have. i don’t expect him to be a center, take faceoffs, kill penalties, or be defensively responsible. his job is just to score goals, which he’s good at. if the return is subpar, we keep him and let him show the new kids how to dress for instagram clout. if he gets you a first rounder, trade him and let him be soft somewhere else.
the problem with full rebuild is we’ve been here before. we drafted matthews and marner and fucked that up royally. so, we do it again? trade everyone for picks, draft new talent and then fuck that up again in 10 years when the new window is supposed to be open and remains closed because we’ve learned nothing and just shuffled the chairs again. it also kills me to say it, but i don’t give a fuck who wins the cup this year. i guess i’ll take mcdavid also, but i’d like to see marner win it just to rub salt in the wound and make the lesson more painful.
As soon as they let Marner walked, the team was done for. Matthews is not the same player with Marner. And the sad part is, even when Matthews was scoring 60-69 goals, he wasn’t scoring them often enough when it mattered in the playoffs. It’s very stupid and annoying that the Leafs gathered elite talent and pissed it away but that all comes down to management. They had a team of executives that made too many bad moves and drafted like absolute shit. Scroll up and I made a list of all the players the Leafs let go and drafted during the Shanahan years and it’s sickening how bad this team was at management.
I think Matthews has opened the door to leaving because the benefits of living in Toronto have dwindled to near zero. It’s not a desirable enough place to live or play anymore. He can make more money, get taxes less, have nicer weather, more privacy and still play competitive hockey on any one of the teams in the West in the USA.
Trading Matthews is about so much more than the shit bag team that refused to stand up for him. It’s just the biggest source of value the Leafs have to get younger in the shortest amount of time. The Leafs don’t have 1st round picks but trading Matthews could bring you the value of three or four 1st round picks immediately. And the same goes for Nylander. He brings the Leafs value in a trade more than he does on the ice. And if you trade Matthews, Nylander is the next one to ask to be traded, followed by everybody else over 25 who wants a chance to win somewhere else.
Yes, the previous rebuild ultimately failed but the Leafs don’t have any other options. They will fail at a retool even worse. At least will a full tear down rebuild, you can hire the proper management, overpay them all with the savings from paying the players way less after you trade them away, and rebuild this team properly; through the draft.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantChayka? thats a big Meh for me. his track record is pretty pedestrian. He did take big swings, but very mixed results.
Latest from Friedman: John Chayka and Scott White are the finalists for a “head of hockey operations” role with the Leafs
Chayka makes zero sense as the head of hockey ops. He doesn’t have the hockey mind or the experience. But given how stupidly Pelley is brainwashed into the AI advanced stats shit, odds are, he wins the job. Pelley is also a meddler so if he hires a poindexter to “run” the team, he can control him and the team.
White is also pretty meh. His entire career is running AHL teams. He has two decades of experience but not where it counts. He got stuck at the mid level management spot. I’d much rather grossly overpay for Jim Nill.
They need Chayka to be on the team at a lower level and grossly overpaid so he doesn’t care that he’s not at the top of the food chain with a legit hockey mind above him.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantleafs can play musical chairs with management and coaching all they want, but the rot starts at the top with mlse and pelley. after this debacle of a season, the questions need to be directed at the top. run it back, run it back, run it back, run it back, throw away money, hand out no trade clauses like candy, buy high sell low, scapegoating then trading marner for gimps and peanuts. thats not on berube or his assistants or the players. thats on ownership for letting this shit happen while they stack profits on a system optimized to make losing profitable. its a goddamm shitshow at the top. at this rate, i wont live long enough to witness the leafs finally win a cup or even make it to the semis. jesus fucking christ, are we supposed to cheer for ottawa or edmonton? i don’t know. just wanted to yell about it.
I tend to agree with you. Management and coaching can’t fix this current problem. But it can rebuild it from scratch with a giant head start. With Matthews and Nylander the Leafs have two individual players that can be winners somewhere else but not as core players in Toronto. Think of Phil Kessel but with twice the value. Step one has to be to trade these two guys at the 2027 draft. The Leafs can’t afford to tank in 2026 because it just pushes the 1st round pick to the next year. They’re better off building the value back up to recover a minimum of 5 major assets. Where it is five first round picks OR five top prospects or five young roster players. Or any combination.
Fuck Ottawa in it’s entirety. The entire shithole of a city can implode for all I care including the corrupt pieces of shit who run the country. The hockey team can go fuck itself along with it.
I’d much rather see Edmonton win it for McDavid.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantHockeybuzz used to be great. All of their best writers came here. Too much nonsense happened over there. Yes, UG could be more civil, but he does have some valid points. To earn respect, you have to give respect. Hockeybuzz had a lot of malcontents over there and also were to heavy handed with bans. I’ve not gone over there for months.
Absolutely correct, you have to earn respect to get it and I’m perfectly respectful to those that are respectful to me. Pretty simple.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantall the hockeybuzz leafs blogs are partially or completely written by AI. there is a site called quillbot where you can paste text or images to see if they are AI-generated or altered. the leafs blogs posted recently are AI. the blogger is using the AI to do the research work (on gm candidates for example) and then putting it together in a blog. if I want to read what some AI wrote, I’d just ask the AI myself and skip the lazy-writer middleman. i mean seriously, a hockey blog is a thousand words, give or take. for all we know “jay on the leafs” is just eklund using AI and a spellchecker.
so uggie told me to come here and here i am. is this where everyone from hockeybuzz is now?
i just went back to buzz and looked at the new leafs blog. it’s all human written. dude made a liar out of me. we’ll see how long he can go without resorting to it again.
is this site always this damn slow? it takes forever for pages to change or comments to load.
Interesting. If you’re here for the blogs, Mike from Barfalo writes one that nobody reads or comments on. But it’s there. A few people came here. It’s not the best site but it’s better than HB currently is.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantRogers will not let this happen IMO as they want that playoffs revenue.
Is Rogers becoming the mordern day Ballard?If “playoff” revenue is one round and three or four home games, it’s in their best interest to slash player salaries, increase executive spending and guarantee this team has many, many years of deep playoff runs which ends in an eventual Stanley Cup than trying to turn this group of losers into a playoff pretender.
Dirty little secret; the Leafs charge their season ticket holders for every possible home playoff game and if the games don’t happen, they keep the money and put it towards the tickets for next year. So Rogers doesn’t give a fuck, they still get the money whether the Leafs actually play the playoff games or not. What they SHOULD give a fuck about is creating a team that can be a REAL contender and a REAL winner because nothing makes more money than that.
Look at the glorious Dubas “retool” in Pittsburgh…about to get swept. Worth it?
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantBullpen got taken for a ride again today, this time it cost them the game.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantGeorge Springer put his house up for sale.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThree candidates were in Toronto earlier this week for in-person interviews, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman reported on Wednesday’s edition of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast.
The trio included Dallas Stars assistant general manager Scott White and New York Rangers associate GM Ryan Martin, while the final candidate was either Boston Bruins AGM Evan Gold or former Arizona Coyotes GM John Chayka, Friedman said.
Toronto is “probably not looking at this week” for a final decision, per Friedman.
The Maple Leafs spoke to former Vancouver Canucks GM Mike Gillis months ago, but have become concerned about the immense media around him.
Good, fuck off Gillis.
I’d prefer they hire an entire team of guys but the finalists don’t seem terrible as long as they are of the mind to tear down the team and rebuild it. If any of them are retoolers, this team is fucked.
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