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we have a ton of cap space, picks and prospects. they are still going to want to spend and be competitive during TK, Coots and Sanheim’s tenure. That’s just the facts. They are going to want to give these guys more help for a chance to win. They aren’t going to be rebuilding for 5 more years.
we are the second youngest team in the league. I could see the flyers trying to get Bennett and Ekblad to come here for 5 years each. That’s a winning C and D to compliment TK, Coots and Sanheim. You still have youth with Michkov, Foerster, Brink, Drysdale and York among others. Everyone slots in better this way and we’d be no older looking than a team like Dallas who has seemingly found a good mix.
Especially if Florida wins again, they may be happy to move on from those two and they may be willing to come here together for an overpay – which is likely what it will take. Seth Jones had a great game yesterday – I wonder if they see him as the answer moving forward. Ekblad and Bennett certainly fit the “born to be a Flyer” narrative they like to push.
Boeser is another interesting name if you can fit him in. His connection to Tocchet might play a part. Maybe even see if there is a trade to be had for Byram. I could see York going the other way depending on how that relationship is currently.
They are not going to waste away Coots, TK and Sanheim’s careers with their new deals starting. And unless they are in the McDavid sweepstakes next year (there is a 99% chance he stays an Oiler for life) this might be the best team you can put together for the next 5 years while you continue to draft and develop.
There will be some who say “No we aren’t good enough to be signing big name FAs!” Well this is how you’re gonna get better the way we are set up. They aren’t going to keep bottoming out – they are gonna put a team around TK, Coots and Sanheim. 5 years max until their deals near a close. That would be a competitive team while we continue to develop the younger guys and draft.
– May I ask who you are? Player? Management?
– correct they will try to win (peeps need to accept this path) and more than likely fail. Then we will have another new era in a few years after the 2 most recent ones. Question becomes will it be Briere’s 3rd new era or someone else first?
– cant rebuild when it was never torn down. also hasnt been 5 years at all. not even 3.
– 2nd youngest is a flyers talking point. they really aint that young nhl wise. being young doesn’t equate to being good or having “great” young talent.
– why on earth would Bennett and ekblad accept 5 years from a bottom feeding team when they can get 7 or 8? Ask yourself this, if taking 5 years are they likely to go to a winning franchise? it would take a severe overpay as they will have many better options. Then again agents are “calling” danny now that they hired tocchet.
– they do fit the born to be a flyers mantra, 2 guys who will get a great fat retirement pay check.
– they wasted away CC and jakes prime years. So why wouldn’t they “waste” those you mentioned? ex selke is on the way down so he really shouldn’t factor in anything. Shame they wont do what best. They could IMO trade TK and Sanheim to Buffalo and get a very handsom package back.
– they didnt bottom out by design. they bottomed out because of incompetence.
The deal would START with all 3 firsts from this year’s draft. Then start adding until Toronto stops laughing.
#6, TK, Sanheim. Then what else? Assuming they still have thoughts of wanting to win.
Let Marner walk, bring back JT.
will be interesting to see if the leafs fans turn on Matthews.
No to Rossi. Can’t have BOTH your projected C1 and C2 (Luchanko) being sub six-foot, when you also have Drysdale, York and possibly Andrae as top six D.
Think the flyers and flyers fans will be so disappointed when the Jett doesn’t pan out as a #2 center. IMO he won’t.
As far as size what if you had 2 big wingers flanking them? does that change anything? As far as Rossi I am take it or leave mode. Seeing they need talent at sthat spot, he checks that box.
Wish I had faith the flyers can find underutilized or distressed assets to make good deals.
I am not especially optimistic of the Flyers landing a true top-flight center this offseason
I have zero faith they can find that via trade or UFA.
Now the next tier or 2 down they may be able to add talent. The name de jour like Rossi or Zegras would help as clearly they lack talent. Just because you cant add the top #1 center does that mean you dont look to improve with hose 2 or similar players?
taking on the full hit as you said is fine as no long term commitment.
What do you think the return going to Vancouver would be.
As for Allen what type of term do you think he would require? 3 years at 4 per?
Yes, I think they have interest in ISaac.
I would not be shocked,especially with the Vancouver connection and one year til UFA status, if the Flyers gambled on trying to acquire Thatcher Demko. If not, I could easily see them signing Jake Allen.
The only value of Ellis’ contract is for teams that need to reach the cap floor and if the Flyers eat half of it plus add something.
Thanks. Seeing the direction the flyers want to go will you be surprised if they go hard after Tavares or Duchesne if they make to to free agency. These guys will have many other options though the flyers can overpay them on say a 3/4 year deal.
question is how much money it would take as both I assume want to chase a cup.
Does Demko have a NTC? Hypothetically what do you think it would take? Would they want Ersson as a backup as obviously flyers have to add.
Therians biased view is already getting old. I bet if you go back and look at the last 3 press conf for AV, Torts, Tocchet they re virtually identical as to what was said by the flyers and the pres.
Bill we need some conversation, so:
– do you see the flyers pursuing Howard from Tampa assuming he would sign? flyers have the assets to get a deal done. What would you give up for him? Oilers 1st and a 3rd (assuming tampa wants picks? Would you move Barkey (plus a pick) for him?
– when Briere said he had agents calling and talking him (well wouldn’t that be tampering if talking about current players?) was he possibly referring to the agent of Cutter and Buium? IMO torts being the coach was a factor in Cutter not wanting to play here. Then it had a trickle down effect. Any thoughts on that?
– what goalie do you see them pursuing?
– what free agents do you see them going after and actually signing.
– does the Ellis contract have any real trade value?
– this tocchet will draw free agents is also funny. I get it from the flyers end as they have to sell something.
And to think, we didnt draft Buium in part because we already have Andrae.
if one believes that as aa reason..Andrae is just another in a long line of potential 3rd paring dman they have drafted; if he pans out.
right….no issue with what torts did in that situation. at some point he should have started taking questions from him again, if he didnt.
BUndy letting Torts have it over the San Filippo incident(s)
they eat their own once they are fired….
whats he saying? trying to recall that incident and drawing a blank.
No doubt Verbeek will abide by the 10 team list. After that, it is try to get the best deal possible for his team.
I get that. Gibson has been there a long time. I do not think the would just trade him without talking to hi first. Goalies know the flyers a perceived goalie graveyard. dont see a guy like him choosing the flyers. if he was a free agent with not many good offers, then my opinion would change.
What I meant was if the flyers were not one of the 10, they would ask him first not just trade him.
IMO gibson wants a shot at a cup or a minimum the playoffs. cant see him or any vet with some control wanting philly in the last few years of their contract. assuming they are interested in winning.
I know Bill said no way, though it would not shock me to see the flyers pursue CC. Overpay on a 2 year deal.
