Rangers: Panarin Trade Analysis

Just before the 3 p.m. roster freeze deadline, the New York Rangers dealt Artemi Panarin to the LA Kings. Throughout the day, as many of us refreshed Twitter waiting for news, several teams were rumored to be in the mix. Panarin and his agent told GM Chris Drury late in the morning that the only place he would waive his NMC/NTC to go would be Los Angeles. 

The trade was broken by Adam Schefter, largely because he shares the same agency group as Panarin and Emily Kaplan. As the details of the return filtered out, the annoyance level of the fanbase either grew or dissipated, depending on your view. Panarin, who signed a two-year, $22 million extension, more on that later, to LA for Liam Greentree, a conditional third rounder (better of LA’s two picks) this year that becomes a second if the Kings win a playoff round and a conditional 2028 fourth rounder if the Kings win two playoff rounds.

Panarin held all the cards thanks to the NMC and NTC he was given by then GM Jeff Gorton when he was initially signed to the seven-year contract. He had been a healthy scratch for the past week for roster management purposes to avoid injury, enabling a trade. Drury somewhat painted himself into a corner, first with the letter, then with the announcement that New York would not re-sign Panarin to an extension.

If you want a good look at the possible timeline of events, see the tweet below. Panarin was rumored to have wanted a long-term deal, at least five years, which Drury was not offering. Instead, he wanted Panarin to take a team-friendly deal, a la Anze Kopitar, who inked a two-year, $14 million contract. The difference is Kopitar was a career King and their captain while Panarin was a hired gun, who reportedly did take less to sign with the Rangers but wasn’t going to take below-market value. Once the Letter was issued and extension declined, no path to a deal existed. This is the case even though the extension Panarin signed was a far cry from where he thought his market would be. 

Analysis:

As you have likely already seen and will see below, the grades and analysis for the Rangers and Drury were not kind. Drury was painted in a corner, partly by his own doing via how the overall situation was handled and partly by Panaron holding all the cards. While that may be true, deals like Philly made with Claude Giroux and Tampa/Steve Yzerman made with Martin St. Louis show that even when painted in a corner, some flexibility exists. Drury wanted to get this situation out of the way so the focus could shift to players like Vincent Trocheck and Braden Schneider before the March 6 trade deadline. In addition, he would not have to spend the Olympics break with the Panaron situation unresolved. 

Even though that may be the case, that doesn’t mean you make a bad deal. The prevailing view is that the return Drury received today was not going to differ wildly from what might have been the return down the road. LA had the upper hand to an extent because that’s where Panarin decided he wanted to go, though many other teams had been in the mix. The offer of the extension, even though just two years, helped seal the deal. 

What frustrates Rangers’ fans is the retention of salary, especially at 50%, normally automatically results in an upgrade in pick. If the deal had been a conditional second that went to a first with a round win, criticism of the deal would have been muted somewhat. Couple this with the poor drafting, subpar player development and collapse the past two years and the faith in Drury is at an all-time low. Jonny Lazarus nicely summed it how many feel about the deal, Drury, the loss of Panarin, etc. 

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What the Ranger get in Greentree

In Greentree, the Rangers are getting a former first-round pick, taken with the 26th pick in the 2024 NHL Draft. The forward has 23 goals and 45 points over 34 games for the Windsor Spitfires of the OHL Greentree dominated last year, aided by skating with Ilya Protas, but has seen his numbers decline this season.

Greentree, the Kings’ top non-goalie prospect, was the target for weeks if a deal was made with LA. I would have liked one of the goalie prospects as well to improve the deal, as that is the Kings’ strength. Obtaining Greentree is fine, though projections are that he may be a middle-six forward. What is viewed as underwhelming, as noted above, is the pick that also came back. Greentree has an excellent shot, which is his calling card, but his skating is still an issue, even though that has somewhat improved.

He should play for Hartford of the AHL next season, where he is best served to remain all season. Greentree, 20 years old, may be the Rangers’ #1 prospect, albeit in a weak system. Greentree hopefully develops; this is another area of weakness for New York, into a power-forward, using his strength, shot and leadership to become a top-six winger. 

Panarin: What the Rangers Lose

Panarin always answered the bell. He will go down as one of the team’s best free agent signings along with Adam Graves. Panarin played 482 career games with the Rangers and had 607 career points, which ranks ninth in team history. He’s the franchise leader in points per game (1.26) and twice finished in the top five of Hart Trophy voting.

If there is a criticism of Panarin, it’s been his playoff performances. Panarin has the Game 7 OT series winner against Pittsburgh and a OT winner versus Carolina. Beyond those moments, Panarin has struggled in the postseason. Despite those “issues,” he has 35 points in 46 playoff games with New York. 

Panarin is still a play driver who can slow the game down and create time and space. His style of play should enable him to not decline substantially as he ages, as it’s not built on speed or strength. But don’t discount his lower body strength, as that allows him to also create space.

Los Angeles is 28th in 5×5 and overall scoring, which is where Panarin should assist. In addition, Panarin will aid the Kings’ power play as the team aims to make the playoffs in Kopitar’s final season. His extension is more than reasonable, as noted above.

Drury under fire: Panarin handling didn’t help

His Q rating with the fanbase is about as low as possible. How he handles the remainder of the trade deadline will go a long way to determining if that can be remedied. If you want to argue that the Panarin situation limited the return, that will not be the case with Vincent Trocheck and Braden Schneider. 

Trocheck and Schneider, especially Trocheck, should gather a ton of interest in the marketplace, netting a big return. If Drury fails to maximize the value of either or both, then Drury should summarily be taken to task. He seemed to recognize in his comments last night his issues to date; now he has to fix them. 

Drury, at least, has learned from his prior interpersonal mistakes. He may have gone too far the other way in this situation, giving Panarin and his agent too much leash, overcorrecting after what happened with Jacob Trouba, Chris Kreider, etc. A balance is needed in the future. 

Now what?

If we thought the Rangers offense had issues earlier in the season, we got a good look at how bad it will be while Panarin was scratched. More pressure is on Miller and Mika Zibanejad to help carry the scoring. Will Cuylle will need to raise his game, as he has struggled this season.

The future is the key now. Playing the kids in prime situations should be the sole goal. Allowing them the opportunity to either flourish or fail is all that should matter down the stretch. Gabe Perreault needs to be in the first power-play unit as the team sees what his upside is. Brennan Othmann has yet to show why he was a first-round pick, but he, too, should get all the chances he needs to do so down the stretch. 

It has been ugly this season, especially at MSG. Get ready for more of the same and likely even worse. The good news is that the Olympics will be a nice diversion, and then the stretch run to the trade deadline will keep us engaged. After March 6, the entire focus will be on development, the kids, and the draft. 

Drury has his work cut out for him. 

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  • #67015
    aecliptic
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    On another note, was thinking about this, lets say we end up with the 3rd or 4th pick, I would consider trading back a few picks. Belchetz looked like a stud before the clavicle injury, to unite him (6’5, 225) and his teammate Greentree (6’3, 215) on the Rangers could be real interesting.

    #67013
    aecliptic
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    This is where I disagree with you. You cant go out an announce you are trading a player, hold him out of the line up and not trade him. Drury did this before and it back fired. It affects the player and it could possibly affect the room, the room is still probably toxic and he is just encourages more toxicity.

    Second off, either Drury is over valuing Trocheck or other GMs think they can fleece him, which is bad on both fronts. If other teams think Drury is an idiot, which Im sure most do, then there are other player and options out there, Trocheck isnt the only player that has to be traded. If Drury thinks Trocheck is worth more then thats a bigger problem because he will never get traded.

    As for stock piling picks, who cares about 3rd to 7th rounders. The chances of them making an impact are less that 20 or so percent. You need 1st and second rounders and you need to develop them, which the Rangers cant.

    Dude, you know how I feel about the developmental side of things. Ive been driving that wagon to fire Ortmeyer and Glass for years.

    As far as Trocheck goes, I think hes a gamer, I dont think this will affect him. His kids will be so excited that hes staying in NY for now that I think this will be just fine. I put this in my previous post but it was more of a response to you.

    Was Drury over valuing Trocheck? Schenn is older and not as good as Trocheck at this point and got a 1st, 3rd, Drouin (who is a cap dump, is ass and always injured), and an unsigned prospect. Youre telling me that Trocheck isnt worth a 1st and Yurov? Lets look at Kadri… 1st, 2nd, Olofsson (zero valuAe addon, just for cap purposes), a prospect (Curran, unsigned good year in WHL but that doesnt mean much), 20% retained on remaining contract. Again, nothing major in this trade. Would you have taken that package from Avs, sans the retention? I dont think Drury was overvaluing Trocheck, I just think he didnt want a whole bunch of quantity/projects added on to the 1st rd pick.

    #67009
    aecliptic
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    Aecliptic. I don’t disagree about not trading him if the right deal wasn’t in place. But you don’t go announce to the league you’re going to trade him, hold him out of the lineup, and then not trade him. You don’t send a letter out saying you’re retooling, and your retool consists of (3) 3rd round picks, (1) 6th round pick and a prospect.

    I’m opposed to trading Schneider, and don’t like we traded Othmann. He trades for these bums, Borgen, Uro, Parsenin etc, his value of players is then worst in the league. He needs to be gone. Based on how he values players, he probably had a home run package and turned it down bc of how he views players based on past trades. Blais, Brisson, the list goes on and on.

    This is where the last part of my post hits on the fact that sending the letter was a massive blunder, and I said it 2 years ago when all the Trouba stuff started going public. Then you got the stuff with Goodrow. Then you got the media harassing Mika if he’d waive his NMC. Now we have the letter, Panarin and Trocheck. His first year as GM, he was so tight lipped and actually made a couple good moves and we got into the ECF. However, I think this quick success went to his head cause hes become a real idiot with how hes conducting himself.

    Despite all that, Im not mad at how the deadline went. As far as Trocheck goes, I think hes a gamer, I dont think this will affect him. His kids will be so excited that hes staying in NY for now that I think this will be just fine.

    I think Drury thinks he can do better in the off-season. The way thinks are looking on the west coast is very very interesting. Its looking pretty much a lock that the Wild and Stars will play each other in the first round. Both teams have players of interest for the Rangers. Stars get bumped in the first round, questions start circling around Robo. Wild get booted in the first round, questions start circling if theyll ever be good enough to be anything more than an early exit playoff team and that will affect Hughes decision to stay or go. Dorofeyev is a RFA, with how cap strapped Vegas always is, he might be available. The East is wide open I feel, and if Carolina cant make it to the ECF then they need to take a long hard look in the mirror. Wings and Sabres will find out where they stand on a playoff level.

    Thats how I feel about it, and I dont think it will affect Trocheck’s value. Trocheck is still under contract for 3 more years after this on one of the sexiest AAV’s for what he can provide.

    Schneider, I think the fans blew that up far more than anything. I dont think Drury made any serious indication that he would trade him, I think Fans just assumed he would be part of the retool because he might fetch something significant. He might have been listening to offers, but unless it was significant he had no intention of moving him.

    Which is the route Drury should have taken in general instead of sending that dumb letter. “I like the core of players we have, I think its a solid foundation to build on next year, of course if someone calls with an offer to blow me away Id listen. Despite the rough year, we’ve dealt with significant injuries to key players that have attributed to that. I whole heartedly believe we are better than the standings show.” Should have been the most ambiguous response ever.

    Generally speaking now, as far as Raddysh, whats the point in trading a proven depth player for a 4th rounder? Doesnt do anything for us. Same goes for Brodz and Vaak, etc…

    #66999
    nyrangers9479
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    Aecliptic. I don’t disagree about not trading him if the right deal wasn’t in place. But you don’t go announce to the league you’re going to trade him, hold him out of the lineup, and then not trade him. You don’t send a letter out saying you’re retooling, and your retool consists of (3) 3rd round picks, (1) 6th round pick and a prospect.

    I’m opposed to trading Schneider, and don’t like we traded Othmann. He trades for these bums, Borgen, Uro, Parsenin etc, his value of players is then worst in the league. He needs to be gone. Based on how he values players, he probably had a home run package and turned it down bc of how he views players based on past trades. Blais, Brisson, the list goes on and on.

    #66987
    Brukie
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    This is where I disagree with you. You cant go out an announce you are trading a player, hold him out of the line up and not trade him. Drury did this before and it back fired. It affects the player and it could possibly affect the room, the room is still probably toxic and he is just encourages more toxicity.

    Second off, either Drury is over valuing Trocheck or other GMs think they can fleece him, which is bad on both fronts. If other teams think Drury is an idiot, which Im sure most do, then there are other player and options out there, Trocheck isnt the only player that has to be traded. If Drury thinks Trocheck is worth more then thats a bigger problem because he will never get traded.

    As for stock piling picks, who cares about 3rd to 7th rounders. The chances of them making an impact are less that 20 or so percent. You need 1st and second rounders and you need to develop them, which the Rangers cant.

    I found this draft player playing percentage stats which is what Im talking about.

    1st ROUND PICKS [1267 players]

    MIN. 1 GAME : 1131 (89.30%) 0 GAME : 136 (10.70%)
    100+ GAMES : 872 (68.80%) < 100 : 395 (31.20%)
    500+ GAMES : 524 (41.40%) < 500 : 743 (58.60%)

    2nd ROUND PICKS [1317 players]

    MIN. 1 GAME : 887 (67.40%) 0 GAME : 430 (32.60%)
    100+ GAMES : 503 (38.20%) < 100 : 814 (61.80%)
    500+ GAMES : 219 (16.60%) < 500 : 1098 (83.40%)

    3rd ROUND PICKS [1286 players]

    MIN. 1 GAME : 662 (51.50%) 0 GAME : 624 (48.50%)
    100+ GAMES : 362 (28.10%) < 100 : 924 (71.90%)
    500+ GAMES : 129 (10.00%) < 500 : 1098 (90.00%)

    4th ROUND PICKS [1291 players]

    MIN. 1 GAME : 528 (40.90%) 0 GAME : 763 (59.10%)
    100+ GAMES : 274 (21.20%) < 100 : 1017 (78.80%)
    500+ GAMES : 105 (8.10%) < 500 : 1186 (91.90%)

    5th ROUND PICKS [1305 players]

    MIN. 1 GAME : 431 (33.00%) 0 GAME : 874 (67.00%)
    100+ GAMES : 194 (14.90%) < 100 : 1111 (85.10%)
    500+ GAMES : 63 (4.80%) < 500 : 1242 (95.20%)

    6th-7th ROUND PICKS [2528 players]

    MIN. 1 GAME : 697 (27.60%) 0 GAME : 1832 (72.40%)
    100+ GAMES : 330 (13.00%) < 100 : 2199 (87.00%)
    500+ GAMES : 128 (5.10%) < 500 : 2401 (94.90%)

    #66968
    aecliptic
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    I understand that people are mad about the Trocheck situation, but personally, Im not bothered by it. Would ya’ll would have been happy with a mediocre return as long as a 1st was attached to it? Nope. You guys would have complained about the return regardless of what it was. The way I see it, Drury was not going to trade Trocheck unless a legit player was coming back to NY… ie Yurov, Kasper, Nikishin (maybe Nadeau), Lohrei/Poitras… but no one was willing to part with them.

    My theory on the Carrick situation is two fold. Drury knew Guerin wanted Trocheck, but also wanted a depth C. So he tried to use Carrick to leverage Guerin to trade Yurov, he didnt want the additional 2nd in 2028 and still get a mediocre return for Trocheck. So Guerin traded for McCarron and said hey, we dont need Carrick anymore, deal is still as it stands.

    People say Trochecks value is at its highest now, but apparently no one was willing to pony up. However, I dont think Trocheck’s value will take much of a hit. Matter of fact, he still becomes a useful trade piece for us in the offseason if lets say we try to pull the rights to Robo or Dorofeyev. People are getting way too dramatic about this.

    The Carrick trade on its own, I think Drury was given a choice of either a 2nd round pick in 2029 or a 3rd round pick in 2026, and with the depth this draft is supposed to have, he wanted the pick now.

    As far as Schneider goes, what are we going to get in return for Schneider that would be better for us next year? We retain his rights and could potentially trade him at the draft.

    What I got from this, Drury isnt interested in getting prospects and potential. He wants young players he can plug in immediately. Im not mad about it.

    Was the letter necessary? Absolutely not. That was a huge fumble. However Im only looking at this from a phone booth sized sample of just this last month. Doesnt change my opinion on everything else.

    People need to chill out though, I dont think this deadline was as bad as people make it out to be.

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by aecliptic.
    #66901
    nyrangers9479
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    Another 1st round forward that failed to develop under drury

    #66900
    tbnyr94
    Participant

    Othmann for Jacob Battaglia LW/C 43 pts in 58 for Windsor
    64th pick in 24 draft. Have a strange feeling this won’t speed up the “ retool” but hey who knows? 🙂

    #66893
    tbnyr94
    Participant

    Othmann traded to Calgary..not sure return

    #66881
    nyrangers9479
    Participant

    I hate this guy man. Absolutely hate him

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