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August 10, 2026 at 9:49 pm #79322
Freakshow
ParticipantColorado drafted some great/good/decent centers too, traded some away foolishly, but they’ve still won three Cups.
Anton Stastny
Dale Hunter
Joe Sakic
Mats Sundin
Eric Lindros
Paul Stastny
Ryan O’Reilly
Matt Duchene
Nathan MacKinnon1 WHA Nordiques
2/3/4/5 NHL Nordiques
6/7/8 Av’sNo brainer taking Sundin Lindros MacKinnon 1oa luck not drafting skill.
Anton Stastny was drafted by Quebec in the 1979 NHL Entry Draft. But yes, finishing at or near the bottom giving yourself the best opportunity at drafting #1 is crucial.
August 10, 2026 at 9:34 pm #79321Nighthawk
ParticipantColorado drafted some great/good/decent centers too, traded some away foolishly, but they’ve still won three Cups.
Anton Stastny
Dale Hunter
Joe Sakic
Mats Sundin
Eric Lindros
Paul Stastny
Ryan O’Reilly
Matt Duchene
Nathan MacKinnon1 WHA Nordiques
2/3/4/5 NHL Nordiques
6/7/8 Av’sNo brainer taking Sundin Lindros MacKinnon 1oa luck not drafting skill.
August 10, 2026 at 9:27 pm #79319Freakshow
ParticipantColorado drafted some great/good/decent centers too, traded some away foolishly, but they’ve still won three Cups.
Anton Stastny
Dale Hunter
Joe Sakic
Mats Sundin
Eric Lindros
Paul Stastny
Ryan O’Reilly
Matt Duchene
Nathan MacKinnon-
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Freakshow.
August 10, 2026 at 9:12 pm #79318Freakshow
ParticipantThe only reason most of us are here is to bask in the glory of your intellect. Tell me more about how stupid I am. No more than 2 syllable words though. I get headaches from reading too many smart words. Makes my thinker hurt.
How bout dem DBacks baby!!
August 10, 2026 at 9:10 pm #79317Freakshow
ParticipantWhat a bunch of rubbish. Pens, Av’s, Islanders all had/have quality 1C’s, which helped them win cups. You build from the goal out but you still need good centers. You don’t know FA about winning because you’re a Canucks fan. Some things never change, but keep on dreaming pal!
Lafontaine and Trottier weren’t too shabby if I do say so myself lol. Detroit has been pretty good at finding star centers as well, Yzerman, Fedorov, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, etc. – you don’t need elite goaltending when you’ve got a lot of run support. But, it’s hard to compare eras because so much has changed over the years. The Red Wings were on a different level when it came to scouting back in the day, and it paid dividends for them. The world is a smaller place now, though, everybody knows kids globally from a very early age now. Plus, you have the salary cap, it’s much more difficult to build through trades, but it can still be done.
August 10, 2026 at 8:54 pm #79315Load Management
ParticipantI keep forgetting how stupid Canucks fans are
The only reason most of us are here is to bask in the glory of your intellect. Tell me more about how stupid I am. No more than 2 syllable words though. I get headaches from reading too many smart words. Makes my thinker hurt.
August 10, 2026 at 7:46 pm #79314VHG
ParticipantFor starters the Pens lucked out drafting 2 generational players in Lemieux & Crosby. The Hawks were horrible forever & drafted Kane. The Av’s got MacKinnon. The Oilers 4 1oa’s & diddly squat for it. The Sabres 3 1oa’s & more squat.
You win cups from the top on down something the Canucks have struggled with for decades. The ‘82 cup run was magical showing how a team that goes through walls can prove pundits wrong til they ran into the dynasty Islanders. ‘94 was the best 7 game NHL series in NHL history. My bias is showing lol. Superboss Pat Quinn did turn it around for a lil while. Later the Naslund trade gave us a great shot at a cup til he was injured. ‘11 was one of the greatest seasons by an NHL team that blew it.
Here we are back to square 1 on a true rebuild & there is nothing to do but enjoy the journey not knowing where it will lead.
What a bunch of rubbish. Pens, Av’s, Islanders all had/have quality 1C’s, which helped them win cups. You build from the goal out but you still need good centers. You don’t know FA about winning because you’re a Canucks fan. Some things never change, but keep on dreaming pal!
August 10, 2026 at 6:52 pm #79312Bob Nill
ParticipantI keep forgetting how stupid Canucks fans are
August 10, 2026 at 4:39 pm #79305Nighthawk
ParticipantFor starters the Pens lucked out drafting 2 generational players in Lemieux & Crosby. The Hawks were horrible forever & drafted Kane. The Av’s got MacKinnon. The Oilers 4 1oa’s & diddly squat for it. The Sabres 3 1oa’s & more squat.
You win cups from the top on down something the Canucks have struggled with for decades. The ‘82 cup run was magical showing how a team that goes through walls can prove pundits wrong til they ran into the dynasty Islanders. ‘94 was the best 7 game NHL series in NHL history. My bias is showing lol. Superboss Pat Quinn did turn it around for a lil while. Later the Naslund trade gave us a great shot at a cup til he was injured. ‘11 was one of the greatest seasons by an NHL team that blew it.
Here we are back to square 1 on a true rebuild & there is nothing to do but enjoy the journey not knowing where it will lead.
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August 10, 2026 at 12:47 pm #79280VHG
ParticipantFair enough, there was also Trevor Linden who put up good numbers back in the day before Keenan & Messier ran him out of town. So that gives you a total of two 1C’s developed by Vancouver in 50+ years, not good enough. Hopefully CM & Cootes excel in the new system, they both seem to have good character.
Yeah, it’s been really dismal regarding getting a star first line center, however, they haven’t really put themselves in a position to do that because they won’t bottom out AND they draft so poorly. You can win a Cup many ways but historically speaking, teams who build through the middle of the ice win…a lot!
Linden & Sedin were both top 3 picks, so the odds of getting a 1C is obviously better there. The (experts) out there already have given Cootes & CM a 2nd/3rd line ceiling which is a joke. What we do know is the Canucks will stink again this season and will more than likely pick in the 3 OA slot again. Put a premium on high character players. If these kids care and work hard losing is just part of the process.
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