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  • #79322
    Freakshow
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    Colorado drafted some great/good/decent centers too, traded some away foolishly, but they’ve still won three Cups.

    Anton Stastny
    Dale Hunter
    Joe Sakic
    Mats Sundin
    Eric Lindros
    Paul Stastny
    Ryan O’Reilly
    Matt Duchene
    Nathan MacKinnon

    1 WHA Nordiques
    2/3/4/5 NHL Nordiques
    6/7/8 Av’s

    No brainer taking Sundin Lindros MacKinnon 1oa luck not drafting skill.

    Anton Stastny was drafted by Quebec in the 1979 NHL Entry Draft. But yes, finishing at or near the bottom giving yourself the best opportunity at drafting #1 is crucial.

    #79321
    Nighthawk
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    Colorado drafted some great/good/decent centers too, traded some away foolishly, but they’ve still won three Cups.

    Anton Stastny
    Dale Hunter
    Joe Sakic
    Mats Sundin
    Eric Lindros
    Paul Stastny
    Ryan O’Reilly
    Matt Duchene
    Nathan MacKinnon

    1 WHA Nordiques
    2/3/4/5 NHL Nordiques
    6/7/8 Av’s

    No brainer taking Sundin Lindros MacKinnon 1oa luck not drafting skill.

    #79319
    Freakshow
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    Colorado drafted some great/good/decent centers too, traded some away foolishly, but they’ve still won three Cups.

    Anton Stastny
    Dale Hunter
    Joe Sakic
    Mats Sundin
    Eric Lindros
    Paul Stastny
    Ryan O’Reilly
    Matt Duchene
    Nathan MacKinnon

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Freakshow.
    #79318
    Freakshow
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    The only reason most of us are here is to bask in the glory of your intellect. Tell me more about how stupid I am. No more than 2 syllable words though. I get headaches from reading too many smart words. Makes my thinker hurt.

    How bout dem DBacks baby!!

    #79317
    Freakshow
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    What a bunch of rubbish. Pens, Av’s, Islanders all had/have quality 1C’s, which helped them win cups. You build from the goal out but you still need good centers. You don’t know FA about winning because you’re a Canucks fan. Some things never change, but keep on dreaming pal!

    Lafontaine and Trottier weren’t too shabby if I do say so myself lol. Detroit has been pretty good at finding star centers as well, Yzerman, Fedorov, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, etc. – you don’t need elite goaltending when you’ve got a lot of run support. But, it’s hard to compare eras because so much has changed over the years. The Red Wings were on a different level when it came to scouting back in the day, and it paid dividends for them. The world is a smaller place now, though, everybody knows kids globally from a very early age now. Plus, you have the salary cap, it’s much more difficult to build through trades, but it can still be done.

    #79315
    Load Management
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    I keep forgetting how stupid Canucks fans are

    The only reason most of us are here is to bask in the glory of your intellect. Tell me more about how stupid I am. No more than 2 syllable words though. I get headaches from reading too many smart words. Makes my thinker hurt.

    #79314
    VHG
    Participant

    For starters the Pens lucked out drafting 2 generational players in Lemieux & Crosby. The Hawks were horrible forever & drafted Kane. The Av’s got MacKinnon. The Oilers 4 1oa’s & diddly squat for it. The Sabres 3 1oa’s & more squat.

    You win cups from the top on down something the Canucks have struggled with for decades. The ‘82 cup run was magical showing how a team that goes through walls can prove pundits wrong til they ran into the dynasty Islanders. ‘94 was the best 7 game NHL series in NHL history. My bias is showing lol. Superboss Pat Quinn did turn it around for a lil while. Later the Naslund trade gave us a great shot at a cup til he was injured. ‘11 was one of the greatest seasons by an NHL team that blew it.

    Here we are back to square 1 on a true rebuild & there is nothing to do but enjoy the journey not knowing where it will lead.

    What a bunch of rubbish. Pens, Av’s, Islanders all had/have quality 1C’s, which helped them win cups. You build from the goal out but you still need good centers. You don’t know FA about winning because you’re a Canucks fan. Some things never change, but keep on dreaming pal!

    #79312
    Bob Nill
    Participant

    I keep forgetting how stupid Canucks fans are

    #79305
    Nighthawk
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    For starters the Pens lucked out drafting 2 generational players in Lemieux & Crosby. The Hawks were horrible forever & drafted Kane. The Av’s got MacKinnon. The Oilers 4 1oa’s & diddly squat for it. The Sabres 3 1oa’s & more squat.

    You win cups from the top on down something the Canucks have struggled with for decades. The ‘82 cup run was magical showing how a team that goes through walls can prove pundits wrong til they ran into the dynasty Islanders. ‘94 was the best 7 game NHL series in NHL history. My bias is showing lol. Superboss Pat Quinn did turn it around for a lil while. Later the Naslund trade gave us a great shot at a cup til he was injured. ‘11 was one of the greatest seasons by an NHL team that blew it.

    Here we are back to square 1 on a true rebuild & there is nothing to do but enjoy the journey not knowing where it will lead.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by Nighthawk.
    #79280
    VHG
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    Fair enough, there was also Trevor Linden who put up good numbers back in the day before Keenan & Messier ran him out of town. So that gives you a total of two 1C’s developed by Vancouver in 50+ years, not good enough. Hopefully CM & Cootes excel in the new system, they both seem to have good character.

    Yeah, it’s been really dismal regarding getting a star first line center, however, they haven’t really put themselves in a position to do that because they won’t bottom out AND they draft so poorly. You can win a Cup many ways but historically speaking, teams who build through the middle of the ice win…a lot!

    Linden & Sedin were both top 3 picks, so the odds of getting a 1C is obviously better there. The (experts) out there already have given Cootes & CM a 2nd/3rd line ceiling which is a joke. What we do know is the Canucks will stink again this season and will more than likely pick in the 3 OA slot again. Put a premium on high character players. If these kids care and work hard losing is just part of the process.

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