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June 4, 2025 at 11:33 pm #7947
Cush29
ParticipantWhipper!
Is that avatar a Mc Marner?
Lmfao
June 4, 2025 at 11:34 pm #7948alex.TML
ParticipantThe Leafs are not as good as Florida and Edmonton and you are absolutely correct about first two games.
Taking Panthers to game seven should not fool anyone.-
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June 4, 2025 at 11:34 pm #7949WHIPPER
ParticipantYup, I saw it on X and had to use it, LMFAO.
June 4, 2025 at 11:49 pm #7952WHIPPER
Participant31-1
June 4, 2025 at 11:55 pm #7953Cush29
ParticipantFuck Florida!
Wooooo
June 4, 2025 at 11:56 pm #7954Cush29
ParticipantWhipper with the new avatar gets the MVP award of the night for this place. Lol
June 5, 2025 at 12:58 am #7957WHIPPER
ParticipantBut, I’m cheering for Florida. Is my MVP award revoked?!?!
June 5, 2025 at 1:31 am #7958Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantBennett gets away with everything. And of course Marchand scores on the PP that shouldn’t have happened.
You know that if he and Marchand, by some miracle, played for the Leafs, all the shit they get away with would instantly be called every single time.
I think back to Game 3, Leafs had a PP and Marner got hit very late. Nothing. No call. No 5 on 3.
With the way Bennett and Marchand play, they’d get run out of town like Kadri after enough penalties / suspensions.
Uggle Buggle, you let JT walk, now you need a 2C.
Agreed. Would rather trade for Jenner and/or McBain. At least that way you can guarantee you have a gritty, rough, tough player in his prime, under 5 million who can actually play in all 3 zones. You also sign Rielly Smith who is a playoff performer and actual two-way winger. In that scenario, Nylander can be a defensive lazy fuck and still get away with it. In other scenarios, where Tavares and Nylander are still playing together, they are minus and you lose the series like they did against Florida.
You now have to move Kampf and find a taker for him, and probably have to eat cap to do that and add a sweetener;
Not true. Salary cap floor is 70 million this year. There are A LOT of teams that would happily take a plug just to fill salary and a roster spot. Same goes for Jarnkrok. Both Kampf and Jarnkrok are NHL players. They can both fill a spot on a team fighting for the playoffs and score 10-15 goals and eat up 15 min a game. They just can’t be on a team that hopes to win a Stanley Cup. Teams like Columbus or Utah would happily take these guys.
Rielly has a full NMC and very likely is going to say no to any trade except maybe Vancouver, and we’ll have to eat salary as well to do that, or take a cap dump in return.
Vancouver or Seattle. Blueger and Tyler Myers from Vancouver. Or Oleksiak and Tye Kartye from Seattle. Done deal. Next.
If salary retention is a must, I refer to my previous point that the cap floor is 70 million. There’s plenty of teams that would facilitate retaining salary to reach the cap floor. 3-way deals happen every year to reduce salary. Nothing new or complicated about it.
Team upgraded, full of tough, two-way, North-South, Toronto boys with slight hometown discount bargains.
Knies @ 7×3 | Matthews | Marner @ 13.16×8
R. Smith @ 4.25×3 | Jenner @ 3.75×1 | Nylander
Domi | McBain @ 3.5×3 | B. Tanev @ 1.75×2 (or Corey Perry)
Laughton | Blueger @ 1.8×1 | Lorentz @ 1×1
Comtois @ 850 (or Pacioretty if he doesn’t retire)OEL | Tanev
McCabe | T. Myers
Burns @ 2×1* | Carlo
Benoit*(if he doesn’t retire, hometown guy because he’s from Barrie. Could be the ultimate utility player as both a 7th D and a 13th forward.)
Woll | Stolarz
Marner is very likely walking anyways, so are you just armchair GM circle-jerking like usual, or do you want to actually talk about realistic moves?
And the Leafs are very likely never winning a Stanley Cup with retards running this team. But you’re still going to circle jerk yourself while you watch them.
You want realistic? Realistic is Marner is walking because management is inept, Bennett and Marchand are staying in Florida and the Leafs are absolutely fucked. There’s your reality.
I know that’s difficult for you, the air is foul in your mom’s basement what with her corpse rotting in the next room.
Personal attacks because you can’t deal with the actual argument. Nothing new but just as pathetic.
June 5, 2025 at 1:33 am #7959Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThe Leafs are not as good as Florida and Edmonton and you are absolutely correct about first two games.
Taking Panthers to game seven should not fool anyone.The Leafs took the Panthers to Game 7, you can’t take that away from them. It wasn’t pretty but nobody else gave them a better challenge. This Leafs team was and is still flawed. But it’s closer than anybody else. And to throw that away instead of build upon it would be stupid. All it would take is for Bob to act his age at 37 or fatigue from 3 long Cup runs or a major injury, and this Leafs team, with the correct improvements (remove Tavares, Rielly, Jarnkrok, Kampf etc.) and they can go further than they ever have before.
This Edmonton team would still be choking like the Leafs if it wasn’t for their head coach. Granted, Kris Knoblauch has the benefit of having the best player on the planet on his team but the way the whole team plays as a relentless unit behind him, with a bunch of no-name players for the most part lower in the line-up, really shaky blueline and a shoddy Skinner (whom he pulled and only put back in because Pickard got injured), is a wonder to watch. They’re up 1-0 early in the series so far and who knows if they will win the Cup but Kris Knoblauch deserves some major credit for the massive turn around this team has had since he took over. Full credit to him win or lose.
June 5, 2025 at 5:20 am #7971fifty mission cap
ParticipantIt may not matter if we “change the DNA” around our core players because our core players simply do not elevate their game the way they do on Florida and Edmonton.
How many shifts do you think Maurice matches 3C Lindell on McJesus? I’m betting ZERO. It’ll be all Barkov. Just remember that Maurice did match Lindell against Matthews and he was able to shut his ass down.
When your stars cannot dominate another team’s 3rd line, you’re simply not winning.
June 5, 2025 at 9:01 am #7983PDO Speedwagon
ParticipantMcMarner is fucking hilarious.
Don’t let Eggs Benny see that or he’ll have a minor stroke.
June 5, 2025 at 9:46 am #7994Fakepartofme
ParticipantMy gawd the leagues has ruined any momentum they had for the finals with the long break and the upcoming schedule is even worse.
Next game tomorrow, ok good thats normal.
Game 3 Monday? WTF
Game 4 Thursday? Jesus
Game 5 Saturday – ok back to normal
Game 6 Tuesday 17th – Jesus
Game 7 on JUNE 20th!!!! WTF..I get the NBA finals are on…but gimme a break
June 5, 2025 at 9:49 am #7996gravyface
ParticipantIt may not matter if we “change the DNA” around our core players because our core players simply do not elevate their game the way they do on Florida and Edmonton.
How many shifts do you think Maurice matches 3C Lindell on McJesus? I’m betting ZERO. It’ll be all Barkov. Just remember that Maurice did match Lindell against Matthews and he was able to shut his ass down.
When your stars cannot dominate another team’s 3rd line, you’re simply not winning.
If we let Marner and JT walk, that’s 2 of 4 gone. Not sure we get as much value back trying to replace JT though. Would rather keep him at an actual hometown discount and add another 2C.
June 5, 2025 at 10:01 am #7998monkeypunk
ParticipantIf we let Marner and JT walk, that’s 2 of 4 gone. Not sure we get as much value back trying to replace JT though. Would rather keep him at an actual hometown discount and add another 2C.
~gravyface
Ultimately, to me, it’s about value. Now I don’t care if people agree with Dom Luszczyszyn’s financial models, per se. There’s room to argue in there, but what it does is set a baseline for what value is.
It suggests that Marner outperformed his $10.9m contract by providing $12m in value. Since I think ALL of Dom’s valuations are too high by around 15%, I think Marner probably was providing closer to $10m in value – which feels about right, because those who favour him have no problem with him getting north of $12.5m and those who don’t like him think that $8m is about right.
It also suggests that Tavares is worth about $9m.
Using that 15% concept, if you’re not getting Marner for around $11m, you’re overpaying him anyway. If you’re getting Tavares for less than $7.5m, you’re probably getting value.
Resigning a good player who wants to take a significant pay cut to stay seems like a no-brainer to me.
June 5, 2025 at 10:03 am #8000Cush29
ParticipantMy gawd the leagues has ruined any momentum they had for the finals with the long break and the upcoming schedule is even worse.
Next game tomorrow, ok good thats normal.
Game 3 Monday? WTF
Game 4 Thursday? Jesus
Game 5 Saturday – ok back to normal
Game 6 Tuesday 17th – Jesus
Game 7 on JUNE 20th!!!! WTF..I get the NBA finals are on…but gimme a break
Agreed and I know there are other considerations like if the applicable rinks have other stuff booked like concerts but this is just dumb, especially if they are really trying to ‘grow the sport’ in the US.The long gaps between games just give casual fans the chance to forget it and the drama etc.
Not shocking from the NHL who aside from having one of if not the greatest sport on earth as their product can’t get out of their own way and as a result or the joke of the bigger pro sports leagues.
Shitty scheduling, not nearly enough marketing, officiating that is just insanely puzzling to even a life long fan, Supplementary discipline processes and results that make zero sense, teams in markets they shouldn’t be while markets who would thrive go without, a terrible hard cap system that forces the anchor franchises to essentially keep the shitty, terrible ones afloat, no equalization with respect to taxes and the inequity that tax situations create, etc. etc. etc.
Imagine if the people who run say the NFL top to bottom ran the NHL? I think the NFL is the gold standard.
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