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  • #54103
    senstrolltwo
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    Sliding that left handed bat between Springer and Vlad would be pretty sweet. Love Bo but I think if they can only do one, Tucker is a better fit. Tucker replaces Lukes and Clement goes to 2nd with Bam Bam at 3rd. Defensively, it’s not close between Bo and Tucker.

    So, get both

    or sign Tucker, and trade for marte to play 2b
    thats would be….wild

    #54127
    senstrolltwo
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    good video on all the FA pitchers, highly detailed and statsy.
    was put out before Cease/ponce deals

    also has Bassitt.

    Solid moves for the Jays

    #54168
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Jays doing fuck all to address the closer situation. Probably should get on that before all the best options are gone.

    #54224
    CanadaCup
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    Jays doing fuck all to address the closer situation. Probably should get on that before all the best options are gone.

    Passing on a 3 year, $69M deal for Diaz isn’t doing fuck all. They’re plenty of good options available

    #54282
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Passing on a 3 year, $69M deal for Diaz isn’t doing fuck all. They’re plenty of good options available

    Not really though.

    #54284
    CanadaCup
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    Passing on a 3 year, $69M deal for Diaz isn’t doing fuck all. They’re plenty of good options available

    Not really though.

    lol. Not knowing shit has never stopped you from having such strongly held opinions. It just stops you from ever being right.

    #54292
    Unholy_Goalie
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    lol. Not knowing shit has never stopped you from having such strongly held opinions. It just stops you from ever being right.

    Pot meet kettle. You’re wrong, as usual putz. And I am very often correct, much more than you that is for certain. The only thing you do correctly is suck off the government dick.

    The Jays have a great opportunity to go back to the World Series. The Jays need to address the closing position and the best options have started to disappear to their direct competition. So what if they’re expensive to sign? There should be no more pinching pennies. The Dodgers aren’t going to avoid spending money. Moneyball is not the game to play now.

    That’s not to say they can’t pull something off but their options are dwindling by the day. They need to continue to be aggressive.

    #54293
    CanadaCup
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    lol. Not knowing shit has never stopped you from having such strongly held opinions. It just stops you from ever being right.

    Pot meet kettle. You’re wrong, as usual putz. And I am very often correct, much more than you that is for certain. The only thing you do correctly is suck off the government dick.

    The Jays have a great opportunity to go back to the World Series. The Jays need to address the closing position and the best options have started to disappear to their direct competition. So what if they’re expensive to sign? There should be no more pinching pennies. The Dodgers aren’t going to avoid spending money. Moneyball is not the game to play now.

    That’s not to say they can’t pull something off but their options are dwindling by the day. They need to continue to be aggressive.

    Moneyball? Nobody’s been more aggressive than the Jays so far and they’re far from done. They’re plenty of good relievers left and paying Diaz that kind of money would make getting Bo and/or Tucker that much more difficult. Unlike the last couple of years, they’re actually the favourites to get the big guns. Even the Dodgers have limits on their spending. They’re apparently interested in Tucker but not willing to go more than 3 years. Advantage Jays.

    Some of these signings are going to take a while and outcomes are far from certain. But the Jays have made good moves so far and are likely to make more.

    #54295
    CanadaCup
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    And yes, I’m enjoying my pensions, RIFs and paid off house in a beautiful location. You’re right, it’s a very tasty mouthful mouthful.

    #54296
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Moneyball? Nobody’s been more aggressive than the Jays so far and they’re far from done. They’re plenty of good relievers left and paying Diaz that kind of money would make getting Bo and/or Tucker that much more difficult. Unlike the last couple of years, they’re actually the favourites to get the big guns. Even the Dodgers have limits on their spending. They’re apparently interested in Tucker but not willing to go more than 3 years. Advantage Jays.

    Some of these signings are going to take a while and outcomes are far from certain. But the Jays have made good moves so far and are likely to make more.

    The Jays don’t need relievers. They need an elite, guaranteed closer. Those are two, very different things. At least two have signed and they weren’t with the Jays. One of them was with the Dodgers. They already beat the Jays without a closer. Advantage, still Dodgers.

    The Dodgers don’t need Tucker. They could run back the same team and still win the World Series. The Jays still haven’t secured the players that got them to the big stage. That’s a problem.

    The Jays should be investing at least 80-100 million in their roster. Yes, they got another RHP starter. Great, but they didn’t need Cease. They had good starting pitching. The problem was the bullpen. Where is the LHP? Where is the closer? Where is the extension for Bo? The cost of an elite closer should not matter. It was literally the difference between winning and not winning a World Series and their #1 priority.

    #54308
    senstrolltwo
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    jfc, ranty mcangry is now flooding my Jays thread. great

    The Jays 100% needed a starter, its not just about 1 season. Cease is projected to be their best Starter but a decent margin.
    its December, calm the fuck down. There is a ton of time between now and September.

    #54386
    Unholy_Goalie
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    jfc, ranty mcangry is now flooding my Jays thread. great

    The Jays 100% needed a starter, its not just about 1 season. Cease is projected to be their best Starter but a decent margin.
    its December, calm the fuck down. There is a ton of time between now and September.

    Oh it’s YOUR thread. LOL.

    It’s nice they added a strong starter but it wasn’t a priority. I would have preferred a lefty because the Jays rotation doesn’t have one and that’s probably going to become a problem but Cease is a great pitcher. But looking at their run, the starting pitching wasn’t the #1 priority. I don’t have a problem with signing Cease but I do have a problem with it if the Jays spend big money on something that is not their #1 priority while their best options for their #1 priority fall off the board. They probably should have signed an elite closer first and Cease 2nd. Or 3rd, after retaining the key pieces that got them to the dance in the first place.

    Diaz, Williams, Suarez, Helsley, Pagan and Finnegan, all off the board. Who can the Jays say is an elite closer still available to sign that they can plug into the 9th inning of a World Series game, with a lead, and confidently say, this game is over? Remember, the goal is to get somebody BETTER than Hoffman and it looks like most of those guys if not all of them are already gone and one of them went to the Dodgers, who already beat the Jays without a closer. Imagine now.

    They need to trade Berrios ASAP, get an elite closer, a LHP starter, find a way to convince Bassit and Scherzer to run it back as role players and lock in Bo (or effectively replace him). This is like all the years the Leafs did fuck all on July 1st and hearing people say “it’s still only July 12th” and then watching them fall off a cliff.

    #54396
    senstrolltwo
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    I started it, its my thread

    A top end starter was 100% a need. Gausman and Bieber are UFA after 2026, and you cant wait and see who might be available next year, if you dont have those 2 and Berrios turning into a pumpkin. it doesnt look great.
    Great move to jump the market and get a top end starter for many years

    They dont need to trade Berrios ASAP, they can and might but no rush.

    I dont see Bassit coming back to be a bit role player, he will get 2-3 year offers, hes a dog and teams will love him.

    my concern level is almost zero

    #54439
    Mr. Sir
    Participant

    Trade bait:

    Loperfido
    Schneider
    Straw
    Lukes
    Santander
    Berrios
    Little
    Bruihl
    Nance

    #54440
    CanadaCup
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    I started it, its my thread

    A top end starter was 100% a need. Gausman and Bieber are UFA after 2026, and you cant wait and see who might be available next year, if you dont have those 2 and Berrios turning into a pumpkin. it doesnt look great.
    Great move to jump the market and get a top end starter for many years

    They dont need to trade Berrios ASAP, they can and might but no rush.

    I dont see Bassit coming back to be a bit role player, he will get 2-3 year offers, hes a dog and teams will love him.

    my concern level is almost zero

    Great interview with Ponce. Talks about what a God Ryu is in Korea. His story of the game where he beat Ryu’s strikeout record is very cool. Would love to see this guy succeed here.

    https://beacons.ai/baseballisdeadpod

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