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Jays would have to eat a big chunk of salary to move Santander or Berrios which kind of defeats the purpose.
Passan reporting that Jays willing to go to 10 years for Tucker. Gonna come down to whether he wants to lock in or roll the dice on a shorter term deal. I don’t think any insider has the answer to that. Hope is that he dislikes the FA experience and just wants to decide where he’s going to ride out his career.
right on Santander and Berrios, you clear space but you pay just as much for a team to take them.
the Mets 50m offer really doesnt mean a lot unless you know the details, deferrals and opt outs.Would I want the Jays to go 10 years on Tucker? yes, I dont care. I just want to see them win a WS
I dont know that you could get anything at the moment for Santander or Berrios, and there is no point trading Hoffman and creating another hole you need to fill.
SS Xander Bogaerts signed for 11 years and 280m, and that hasnt worked out great.
I just think now that they signed Okamoto, Bo is a tougher fit than TuckerYou don’t have to “get” anything for them, you just have to clear their salary for prospects and picks and spend the money on better players.
Hoffman needs to be replaced regardless. He’s not good enough. I’d rather replace him now, you would rather replace him later. Either way, he can’t be the closer anymore. He already cost us one World Series, they should not put him in a situation to cost us another.
Bo looks closer to signing with Philadelphia which means an offer to Tucker is around 40-50 million per year to compete with the offer that the Mets gave him.
By clearing 35 million in salary, the Jays can be more competitive with making that offer. Or, they can solidify the team in other ways.
Framber Valdez is still out there to be signed. Even Nestor Cortes as a distant Plan B now that Ranger Suarez has gone to the BoSox, would be good to add along with bringing back either Scherzer or Bassitt as insurance for Yesavage if he has rookie troubles. I’d rather spend 35 million on a starting LHP (or pitching depth) than on Santander and Berrios if they can’t reel in Tucker or re-sign Bo.
Imagine this rotation:
Cease, Valdez, Gausman, Bieber and Yesavage with Scherzer or Bassitt alternating with Yesavage or as the 6th man and bullpen.
Ponce, Rogers, Lauer, Fluharty, Varland and Hoffman also in the bullpen plus adding a real closer (maybe you can find a way to get one for Santander and/or Berrios).
Jays would have to eat a big chunk of salary to move Santander or Berrios which kind of defeats the purpose.
Passan reporting that Jays willing to go to 10 years for Tucker. Gonna come down to whether he wants to lock in or roll the dice on a shorter term deal. I don’t think any insider has the answer to that. Hope is that he dislikes the FA experience and just wants to decide where he’s going to ride out his career.
I dont know that you could get anything at the moment for Santander or Berrios, and there is no point trading Hoffman and creating another hole you need to fill.
SS Xander Bogaerts signed for 11 years and 280m, and that hasnt worked out great.
I just think now that they signed Okamoto, Bo is a tougher fit than TuckerYou don’t have to “get” anything for them, you just have to clear their salary for prospects and picks and spend the money on better players.
Hoffman needs to be replaced regardless. He’s not good enough. I’d rather replace him now, you would rather replace him later. Either way, he can’t be the closer anymore. He already cost us one World Series, they should not put him in a situation to cost us another.
Bo looks closer to signing with Philadelphia which means an offer to Tucker is around 40-50 million per year to compete with the offer that the Mets gave him.
By clearing 35 million in salary, the Jays can be more competitive with making that offer. Or, they can solidify the team in other ways.
Framber Valdez is still out there to be signed. Even Nestor Cortes as a distant Plan B now that Ranger Suarez has gone to the BoSox, would be good to add along with bringing back either Scherzer or Bassitt as insurance for Yesavage if he has rookie troubles. I’d rather spend 35 million on a starting LHP (or pitching depth) than on Santander and Berrios if they can’t reel in Tucker or re-sign Bo.
Imagine this rotation:
Cease, Valdez, Gausman, Bieber and Yesavage with Scherzer or Bassitt alternating with Yesavage or as the 6th man and bullpen.
Ponce, Rogers, Lauer, Fluharty, Varland and Hoffman also in the bullpen plus adding a real closer (maybe you can find a way to get one for Santander and/or Berrios).
Jays apparently have an offer on the table for Tucker. The report yest that Mets offered 50mx3 was prob leaked to get teams to up their offers one last time before he decides.
LHB with Vlad like numbers. would be a nice addition
I dont know that you could get anything at the moment for Santander or Berrios, and there is no point trading Hoffman and creating another hole you need to fill.
SS Xander Bogaerts signed for 11 years and 280m, and that hasnt worked out great.
I just think now that they signed Okamoto, Bo is a tougher fit than TuckerI dont know that you could get anything at the moment for Santander or Berrios, and there is no point trading Hoffman and creating another hole you need to fill.
SS Xander Bogaerts signed for 1 years and 280m, and that hasnt worked out great.
I just think now that they signed Okamoto, Bo is a tougher fit than TuckerThings are quiet atm in Jays Land, but reading about how the Red sox top target was Cease and how Bregman called thier buff and signed with the cubs is good off season stuff.
my gut feeling meters for Bo/Tucker going to the Jays
Tucker 50%
Bo 20%Bo isnt worth $300m…specially as he will be a 2nd basement within a year.
Tucker; if he signs with the Jays it will be for too long and too much.
If he signs with the dodgers or mets, it will be short term but a higher aav with opt outs.I think the Jays miss out on both.
and maybe overpay for bellinger.Bo is drawing his line in the sand at 300 million because Vlad got 500 million. If he signs for 300 million over 12-15 years, it could be manageable. Spotrac has his value at 23 million per year so it’s not that far off but maybe they can talk him down a bit because they were so close to winning and how many friends he has on the team.
Tucker might be worth it on a short term deal that pays him big upfront while the Jays window is wide open. Spotrac has him at 39 million per year. If the Jays are willing to spend 39 more million, they might be better off with multiple players than just Tucker, especially because they still need a starting LHP and an elite closer.
If they can move Hoffman, Santander and Berrios for only prospects, that clears a lot of salary, about 35.5 million. I’d rather have Bo (plus another player) or Tucker for that 35.5 million than Santander, Berrios and Hoffman.
Things are quiet atm in Jays Land, but reading about how the Red sox top target was Cease and how Bregman called thier buff and signed with the cubs is good off season stuff.
my gut feeling meters for Bo/Tucker going to the Jays
Tucker 50%
Bo 20%Bo isnt worth $300m…specially as he will be a 2nd basement within a year.
Tucker; if he signs with the Jays it will be for too long and too much.
If he signs with the dodgers or mets, it will be short term but a higher aav with opt outs.I think the Jays miss out on both.
and maybe overpay for bellinger.Things are quiet atm in Jays Land, but reading about how the Red sox top target was Cease and how Bregman called thier buff and signed with the cubs is good off season stuff.
my gut feeling meters for Bo/Tucker going to the Jays
Tucker 50%
Bo 20%In fairness, the Dodgers didn’t have that either, and they just won the world series back to back. We’ll be fine. Let Ross cook.[/quote]
Ya the Jays were inches away from winning the World Series (heck one bad call away) all without their best hitter for 95% of the playoffs… but yet its time to panic, end of the world blah blah blah.
The pitching staff looks better, now they need another bat.
