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  • #60211
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Bye bye Bo to the Mets on 3 year 126 million dollar deal. Jays strike out on Tucker, Bo, no left handed starter and no closer.

    Better sign Valdez otherwise this team ain’t better and not beating the Dodgers.

    #60194
    senstrolltwo
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    Fucking Dodgers, of course

    #60168
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Lol Jays got beat to Tucker like they got beat on Diaz.

    Now they move on to Plan B(o).

    But it won’t matter, the Dodgers are winning it all again unless the Jays respond with just as much improvement.

    #60016
    CanadaCup
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    Jays would have to eat a big chunk of salary to move Santander or Berrios which kind of defeats the purpose.

    Passan reporting that Jays willing to go to 10 years for Tucker. Gonna come down to whether he wants to lock in or roll the dice on a shorter term deal. I don’t think any insider has the answer to that. Hope is that he dislikes the FA experience and just wants to decide where he’s going to ride out his career.

    right on Santander and Berrios, you clear space but you pay just as much for a team to take them.
    the Mets 50m offer really doesnt mean a lot unless you know the details, deferrals and opt outs.

    Would I want the Jays to go 10 years on Tucker? yes, I dont care. I just want to see them win a WS

    Rogers seems to have made a business decision that turning Jays into a powerhouse makes sense. I’ve read that they plan to merge Jays with MLSE and then sell off some minority positions in the new entity. 2025 Blue Jays willing generate much more value from those sales than 2024 Jays. Management believes long term Tucker helps with that.

    #60002
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Jays would have to eat a big chunk of salary to move Santander or Berrios which kind of defeats the purpose.

    Passan reporting that Jays willing to go to 10 years for Tucker. Gonna come down to whether he wants to lock in or roll the dice on a shorter term deal. I don’t think any insider has the answer to that. Hope is that he dislikes the FA experience and just wants to decide where he’s going to ride out his career.

    Nah, they wouldn’t. Both are serviceable players and there are plenty of teams out there that can’t reel in UFAs who could take them to fill out their roster.

    Santander has hit 40 home runs and 100 RBI just a year ago as a switch hitter. He’s getting pushed out of his spot to bring in Tucker otherwise he’d be in the line-up with the hope he can bring power. Somebody would roll the dice on him.

    Berrios is still a starter too, easily 10-15 wins with 120+ strikeouts. Again, he’s getting pushed out of the line-up because they’re making upgrades, not because he’s terrible.

    Both players can be moved rather easily. It’s not like they’re both trash players with 40 million per year left on their deals.

    #59917
    senstrolltwo
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    Jays would have to eat a big chunk of salary to move Santander or Berrios which kind of defeats the purpose.

    Passan reporting that Jays willing to go to 10 years for Tucker. Gonna come down to whether he wants to lock in or roll the dice on a shorter term deal. I don’t think any insider has the answer to that. Hope is that he dislikes the FA experience and just wants to decide where he’s going to ride out his career.

    right on Santander and Berrios, you clear space but you pay just as much for a team to take them.
    the Mets 50m offer really doesnt mean a lot unless you know the details, deferrals and opt outs.

    Would I want the Jays to go 10 years on Tucker? yes, I dont care. I just want to see them win a WS

    #59892
    CanadaCup
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    I dont know that you could get anything at the moment for Santander or Berrios, and there is no point trading Hoffman and creating another hole you need to fill.

    SS Xander Bogaerts signed for 11 years and 280m, and that hasnt worked out great.
    I just think now that they signed Okamoto, Bo is a tougher fit than Tucker

    You don’t have to “get” anything for them, you just have to clear their salary for prospects and picks and spend the money on better players.

    Hoffman needs to be replaced regardless. He’s not good enough. I’d rather replace him now, you would rather replace him later. Either way, he can’t be the closer anymore. He already cost us one World Series, they should not put him in a situation to cost us another.

    Bo looks closer to signing with Philadelphia which means an offer to Tucker is around 40-50 million per year to compete with the offer that the Mets gave him.

    By clearing 35 million in salary, the Jays can be more competitive with making that offer. Or, they can solidify the team in other ways.

    Framber Valdez is still out there to be signed. Even Nestor Cortes as a distant Plan B now that Ranger Suarez has gone to the BoSox, would be good to add along with bringing back either Scherzer or Bassitt as insurance for Yesavage if he has rookie troubles. I’d rather spend 35 million on a starting LHP (or pitching depth) than on Santander and Berrios if they can’t reel in Tucker or re-sign Bo.

    Imagine this rotation:

    Cease, Valdez, Gausman, Bieber and Yesavage with Scherzer or Bassitt alternating with Yesavage or as the 6th man and bullpen.

    Ponce, Rogers, Lauer, Fluharty, Varland and Hoffman also in the bullpen plus adding a real closer (maybe you can find a way to get one for Santander and/or Berrios).

    Jays would have to eat a big chunk of salary to move Santander or Berrios which kind of defeats the purpose.

    Passan reporting that Jays willing to go to 10 years for Tucker. Gonna come down to whether he wants to lock in or roll the dice on a shorter term deal. I don’t think any insider has the answer to that. Hope is that he dislikes the FA experience and just wants to decide where he’s going to ride out his career.

    #59805
    Unholy_Goalie
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    I dont know that you could get anything at the moment for Santander or Berrios, and there is no point trading Hoffman and creating another hole you need to fill.

    SS Xander Bogaerts signed for 11 years and 280m, and that hasnt worked out great.
    I just think now that they signed Okamoto, Bo is a tougher fit than Tucker

    You don’t have to “get” anything for them, you just have to clear their salary for prospects and picks and spend the money on better players.

    Hoffman needs to be replaced regardless. He’s not good enough. I’d rather replace him now, you would rather replace him later. Either way, he can’t be the closer anymore. He already cost us one World Series, they should not put him in a situation to cost us another.

    Bo looks closer to signing with Philadelphia which means an offer to Tucker is around 40-50 million per year to compete with the offer that the Mets gave him.

    By clearing 35 million in salary, the Jays can be more competitive with making that offer. Or, they can solidify the team in other ways.

    Framber Valdez is still out there to be signed. Even Nestor Cortes as a distant Plan B now that Ranger Suarez has gone to the BoSox, would be good to add along with bringing back either Scherzer or Bassitt as insurance for Yesavage if he has rookie troubles. I’d rather spend 35 million on a starting LHP (or pitching depth) than on Santander and Berrios if they can’t reel in Tucker or re-sign Bo.

    Imagine this rotation:

    Cease, Valdez, Gausman, Bieber and Yesavage with Scherzer or Bassitt alternating with Yesavage or as the 6th man and bullpen.

    Ponce, Rogers, Lauer, Fluharty, Varland and Hoffman also in the bullpen plus adding a real closer (maybe you can find a way to get one for Santander and/or Berrios).

    #59766
    senstrolltwo
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    Jays apparently have an offer on the table for Tucker. The report yest that Mets offered 50mx3 was prob leaked to get teams to up their offers one last time before he decides.

    LHB with Vlad like numbers. would be a nice addition

    #59576
    senstrolltwo
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    I dont know that you could get anything at the moment for Santander or Berrios, and there is no point trading Hoffman and creating another hole you need to fill.

    SS Xander Bogaerts signed for 11 years and 280m, and that hasnt worked out great.
    I just think now that they signed Okamoto, Bo is a tougher fit than Tucker

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