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July 31, 2025 at 12:47 pm #19056
CanadaCup
ParticipantI’m tired of Jays playing it safe. If he gets back to form, their rotation becomes really good for a decent price (maybe 3rd best pitching prospect). The player option means he likely goes to FA. He’s pretty much a rental
Thats my concern…he could be just a rental.[/quote]
So, they just win one WS. Like Sensie says, it’s part of what makes a top of rotation starter affordableJuly 31, 2025 at 4:08 pm #19091WHIPPER
ParticipantYankees loading TF up, SMDH.
July 31, 2025 at 5:26 pm #19118CanadaCup
ParticipantYankees loading TF up, SMDH.
I think Jays have one more move. Just traded Wagner for a minor league catcher. Opens up a roster spot.
July 31, 2025 at 5:57 pm #19130WHIPPER
ParticipantYankees loading TF up, SMDH.
I think Jays have one more move. Just traded Wagner for a minor league catcher. Opens up a roster spot.
I was wondering WTF that was all about, I was worried that Kirk was going to be out long term. Hopefully, there is one more decent bat incoming.
July 31, 2025 at 6:01 pm #19131CanadaCup
ParticipantYankees loading TF up, SMDH.
I think Jays have one more move. Just traded Wagner for a minor league catcher. Opens up a roster spot.
Or maybe not. Spot for Bieber with guys coming back? Dunno
July 31, 2025 at 6:09 pm #19133WHIPPER
ParticipantJays get Louie Varland (looks like great stats) and Ty France (meh).
August 1, 2025 at 7:41 am #19153senstrolltwo
ParticipantJays get Louie Varland (looks like great stats) and Ty France (meh).
pretty much my thoughts
Varland is not a well known name, but been really good. also have lots of years of control left. odd deal for Minny.
Jays accomplished most of the needs.. 2 upgraded RP, 1 maybe starter.
August 1, 2025 at 10:26 am #19182Atomic Wedgie
ParticipantAccording to the Athletic, the Yankees were winners at the TDL, and the Jays were losers. They didn’t like that we didn’t pick up a closer.
August 1, 2025 at 10:27 am #19183senstrolltwo
ParticipantMore detail on the Jays BP moves. Yankees upgraded a bit more for sure, but this will do also
Toronto’s pen has been more good than great — middle of the pack in both ERA and WAR — and while that’s not a problem, exactly, it’s also a group heavily relying on a pair of breakout arms with almost no track record of this kind of performance, in lefty Brendon Little and righty Braydon Fisher. Free-agent closer Jeff Hoffman has been better than his 4.76 ERA would imply, as a third of his runs allowed came in one bad week-long May stretch, but he’s also not exactly been consistent, either. Throw in the struggles of since-released Chad Green, and injuries that have sidelined the underrated Yimi García, and all of a sudden, Toronto was looking at some real bullpen concerns.
They did not, comparatively, add big names. There’s no Duran, Miller, Doval or Bednar here. Instead, they added Louis Varland, who has posted the quietest 2.02 ERA that absolutely no one outside of Minnesota knows about — mostly because he’s not Duran or Griffin Jax — and hasn’t allowed a homer since April, in no small part because of this kind of velocity boost. That’s mostly about being in the bullpen and not the rotation, as he occasionally has been, but also: He touches 101 mph now.
Louis Varland has been adding velocity like nobody’s business over the last few seasons, and his entire arsenal is playing up now as a result. His four-seamer, sinker, and curveball all grade out as plus pitches in 2025 –– both by run value and Stuff+.
They also added Seranthony Domínguez, who has completely remade himself over the last two seasons, adding a high-quality sweeper last year and dropping his changeup for a splitter this year. To say those pitches have worked out is a bit of an understatement; between the two of them, they’ve allowed eight hits all season long. That’s it — and against righties, who mostly see the sweeper and the 97.7 mph four-seam, he’s allowed a mere .123/.260/.173 line.
Varland and Dominguez won’t move the PR needle like the bigger stars here, and the Jays’ bullpen won’t quite be relief-first in October, like other clubs will be. If this pitching staff is going to succeed, it’s going to be because they have a rotation that just added Shane Bieber to Kevin Gausman, Max Scherzer, Chris Bassitt and José Berríos. But with these two additions, they’re deeper — and a lot nastier, too.
August 1, 2025 at 10:43 am #19188senstrolltwo
ParticipantAccording to the Athletic, the Yankees were winners at the TDL, and the Jays were losers. They didn’t like that we didn’t pick up a closer.
Ha right on cue
Varland and Dominguez won’t move the PR needle like the bigger stars here, and the Jays
The jays have a closer, so they didnt add another closer, I guess. but they upgraded a decent amount.
But they didnt get the big name RP, so wont be seen as a big win. we will see how it works out-
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August 6, 2025 at 12:00 pm #19872senstrolltwo
ParticipantSeems good
Relative to their league, the 2025 Blue Jays have the best strikeout-avoiding offense this *century*.Correlation isn’t causation, of course, but the other teams from the last 25 years that are comparable outliers in terms of their contact ability have fared pretty well…
this Jays team gives me 2015 KCR vibes.
August 6, 2025 at 12:43 pm #19875senstrolltwo
Participantshould the Jays pay Bo 200-250mil?
August 6, 2025 at 3:49 pm #19912senstrolltwo
Participantshould the Jays pay Bo 200-250mil?
just hit 3r hr, pay this man his money
August 10, 2025 at 7:46 pm #20437PrinceLH
ParticipantWow! That game today was a beauty. Talk about clutch and gut wrenching to watch. This team could be a team of destiny, with unusual ways to win games. Fun to watch a game like that.
August 11, 2025 at 12:15 pm #20534Fakepartofme
Participantshould the Jays pay Bo 200-250mil?
No.
Id do a 5 year $125m.
We have a potential Bo replacement coming up.
Keep it short term -
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