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The Leafs could be back in contender status in 3-4 years if they sell hard enough and the team would be filled with guys under 25 and on ELC which gives them a lot of flexibility with trades, free agents and contract extensions.
That’s not possible, if you’re giving up top 5 picks 2 years in a row. What makes it any different to sell their top players, namely Woll, Matthews and Nylander? That doesn’t get you 12 picks, at most 5 or 6 and those picks won’t be in the top 10. Sure, you could swap out a couple of your defensemen, like OEL and McCabe and you might get a couple of picks in the later part of the first round. Is that going to get you over the top in 3 or 4 years? Not a chance. You have to keep Knies, so he’s really the only untouchable. Their best bet is swapping players like Cowan for a player like Mason MccTavish. Cowan is going to become a great second line winger, however a McTavish will become a pretty decent second line center. Positional players are important. Building from the Goal outwards. The Leafs have the assets in goal, with or without Woll or Stolarz. The real kicker is finding decent free agents to keep the team afloat for the next 2 years, then they can actually bottom out and grab some top 10 picks. I’m not against moving the 1st overall for the 3rd overall, if it nets a top prospect or another 1st round pick in the top 15. The tearing it down to the foundation and expecting a rebound in 3 to 4 years would be all but impossible. My thoughts are to make your trades, get your draft capital, backfill through free agency and deny the Bruins and Flyers top end transitional players that you’ll spend 20 years competing against. Better to let them pick around 20 and get serviceable players and not star players. You’re beating yourself going forward to allow this to happen. It’s only due to abject stupidity that the Leafs have found themselves in this position. There is a bigger picture here. You can’t be the cause of strengthening your Conference foes, just to tear it down for 4 years and expect a roster of players under 23 to take you to the playoffs. It’s unsustainable.
Again, this team needs to rebuild. Promote John Gruden, give a few of the Marlies a chance next year and tear it down.
Why this doesn’t work. They don’t own their own 1st rounders for the next 2 years. Bottom out and the Flyers and Boston get to draft top end talent in the first round. Guess what, you’ll be lining up against those two teams 7 or 8 times during the regular season. Did you see, the other day, when the Leafs shipped off a 1st to Carolina to take on the Marleau contract? Guess who they got, Seth Jarvis. So why would you want to subject this at a grander scale going forward? What if both years, they give up top 3 picks? Do you not think that this won’t haunt them? It’s a travesty to go down that road. Yes, you can make trades to get more draft picks, sign free agents to quasi replace those top assets that you must trade for a rebuild. The Leafs can’t allow their team to go to the bottom of the NHL for the next two years. Unless you can find a way to trade for your own 1st rounders, a total rebuild can’t occur. Just more years of wandering in the desert. See the Buffalo Sabres and their 15 years out of the playoffs. Rogers will not allow this to happen, so you might as well get used to a rebuild on the fly.
Wrong, it does work. It guarantees maximum value for your highest valued assets. Would it be better if they also had their own picks? Absolutely. But if the Leafs pull in twelve 1st round picks from blowing up the team and adding bad contracts, it mitigates whatever Boston and Philadelphia get from the Leafs 1st round picks. It’s much more important to maximize the return on Matthews than it is to worry about what happens to the 1st round picks that are already long gone.
The reality is if the Leafs go down this retard retool plan, it leads to delaying the inevitable to the point where their highest value assets are lost for low value (like Marner).
The Leafs could be back in contender status in 3-4 years if they sell hard enough and the team would be filled with guys under 25 and on ELC which gives them a lot of flexibility with trades, free agents and contract extensions.
Again, this team needs to rebuild. Promote John Gruden, give a few of the Marlies a chance next year and tear it down.
Why this doesn’t work. They don’t own their own 1st rounders for the next 2 years. Bottom out and the Flyers and Boston get to draft top end talent in the first round. Guess what, you’ll be lining up against those two teams 7 or 8 times during the regular season. Did you see, the other day, when the Leafs shipped off a 1st to Carolina to take on the Marleau contract? Guess who they got, Seth Jarvis. So why would you want to subject this at a grander scale going forward? What if both years, they give up top 3 picks? Do you not think that this won’t haunt them? It’s a travesty to go down that road. Yes, you can make trades to get more draft picks, sign free agents to quasi replace those top assets that you must trade for a rebuild. The Leafs can’t allow their team to go to the bottom of the NHL for the next two years. Unless you can find a way to trade for your own 1st rounders, a total rebuild can’t occur. Just more years of wandering in the desert. See the Buffalo Sabres and their 15 years out of the playoffs. Rogers will not allow this to happen, so you might as well get used to a rebuild on the fly.
Congratulations to the Marlies. Heading off to the Calder Cup. Watched that game and they worked their asses off to get to the finals. I liked Danford’s game tonight. He was solid.
Again, this team needs to rebuild. Promote John Gruden, give a few of the Marlies a chance next year and tear it down.
Congratulations to the Marlies. Heading off to the Calder Cup. Watched that game and they worked their asses off to get to the finals. I liked Danford’s game tonight. He was solid.
I get that the playoffs haven’t finished, but getting the coaching staff set up should be paramount before the draft. You can make deals with teams finished with the playoffs. If a team has a UFA that you want to acquire, you dangle a player to get permission to speak with the UFA. If you can acquire them, you can sign them before anyone else gets a chance.
These fucking captcha’s are driving me nuts today.
It’s funny how almost everyone excoriated the Leafs when they hired Sundin and Chayka. After Pelley stepped into the background, I haven’t really seen any major faux pas by the new Management team. It seams like they’re doing their due diligence in regards to front office moves and how they’re trending towards some of their more senior players. If they do indeed move Rielly for assets, then you have to call it a win. The cap space would make it more viable to take on bad contracts. Let’s see who they do hire for head coach. I’m hoping a young, teaching coach gets hired, and start developing the assets that the do have and will acquire. You can have an accelerated rebuild, if you make a series of good moves and overturn most of your roster. The issue is the two 1st rounders that will come back and haunt the Leafs, if they do get down in the bottom 10 spots.
That’s because the playoffs aren’t over yet. There’s literally nothing for anybody to do. They can’t fuck anything up if they haven’t actually done anything.
The only thing they should be doing is plotting the total tear down and rebuild.
Nice to see the Marlies finally getting the ship righted tonignt. Now, just win one of two and you’re in the finals.
Pretty strange that Chayka flew to the Yukon to meet McKenna but can’t go to Arizona to meet Matthews. You’d think that Matthews would have been front and center the day they hired Chayka.
Hopefully it’s a sign of a rebuild but the Leafs are retards so it probably won’t go the right way.
It’s funny how almost everyone excoriated the Leafs when they hired Sundin and Chayka. After Pelley stepped into the background, I haven’t really seen any major faux pas by the new Management team. It seams like they’re doing their due diligence in regards to front office moves and how they’re trending towards some of their more senior players. If they do indeed move Rielly for assets, then you have to call it a win. The cap space would make it more viable to take on bad contracts. Let’s see who they do hire for head coach. I’m hoping a young, teaching coach gets hired, and start developing the assets that the do have and will acquire. You can have an accelerated rebuild, if you make a series of good moves and overturn most of your roster. The issue is the two 1st rounders that will come back and haunt the Leafs, if they do get down in the bottom 10 spots.
