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May 26, 2026 at 7:53 pm #73476
PrinceLH
ParticipantThe free agent market is marginal. There is Darren Radyysh, a right shooting UFA defenseman and Alex Tuch at right wing, also a UFA. Costly, but doable. Moving Nylander for picks and or prospects would alleviate the Cap issue, if you wanted to add one of the two top UFA’s. The Leafs have to look at it like this: Rogers will not tolerate a full tear down. Give it a year and if Matthews wants out, accommodate him. It could happen by the trade deadline. There’ll be opportunities, when free agency opens, if a team is afraid of losing a highly sought RFA via offer sheet, they may need to find some cap space to accommodate the player, see Leo Karlsson in Anaheim. Use your cap space to grab a Mason McTavish in exchange for a lesser asset, since Cap is going to mean a lot to those type of teams. Asset management is the key to the Leafs returning to respectability.
May 26, 2026 at 7:38 pm #73474Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantYou have to play the game. If Vancouver, that has a hard on for him, want him, the price is #3 and either another 1st or a top prospect that was probably a 1st last year. In Vancouver, they have tickets to sell and they want to sell the sizzle. Same thing for Calgary. I still think San Jose passes over Stenberg for a defenseman and Stenberg falls to #3. Calgary is a different story, but they have a lot of young talent in the pipeline and you can still draft one of the big 3 defensemen.
At the end of the draft, the reality is, the Leafs still won’t have a generational talent to build the team around whether they draft 1st or trade down. They won’t have a guy who steps into the NHL right away and turns them into a contender again either. They had a zoom meeting with Matthews today, which I thought was a fucking joke. If you’re serious about meeting Matthews, either fly him in or go see him in Arizona. But these meetings need to start being the discussions of where Matthews wants to play next because they need to blow this team up.
The UFA market is terrible. The Leafs have no assets to upgrade through trade either. Hopefully by January, Matthews is playing well individually but the team is doing poorly and everybody involved decides it’s time to trade him and blow up the whole team.
May 26, 2026 at 7:01 pm #73468PrinceLH
ParticipantYou have to play the game. If Vancouver, that has a hard on for him, want him, the price is #3 and either another 1st or a top prospect that was probably a 1st last year. In Vancouver, they have tickets to sell and they want to sell the sizzle. Same thing for Calgary. I still think San Jose passes over Stenberg for a defenseman and Stenberg falls to #3. Calgary is a different story, but they have a lot of young talent in the pipeline and you can still draft one of the big 3 defensemen.
May 26, 2026 at 2:15 pm #73456Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI said 2017 Makar year right in my post? why so dense?
Also, I said ignoring all the drafts a D was taken #1, as they Leafs would have taken a D #1 that year also.
and Dahlin vs Q hughes is close. Both top pair #1, nobody would have traded down from Dahlin to take Hughes that year. so thats a dumb point. besides like I fucking mentioned, that year is excluded because a D was #1 anyway.you just argue for the sake if it, dont care to read or actually have a normal discussion, you have to have an enemy at all times to feel value, its sad
And again, this is not a generational talent draft. This is one of those years where passing on McKenna isn’t a problem given his clear flaws just like Lafreniere. The Leafs have had players like McKenna before. It failed. It’s doing the same dumbass shit and expecting different results. Stenberg would be harder to pass on as he is actually a complete player so at least he would be a deviation from being enthralled by one-dimensional, small wingers who scored in junior but don’t have the defensive game or the competitive drive to win you the games that matter.
May 26, 2026 at 1:46 pm #73453senstrolltwo
ParticipantMcKenna < 3rd + 24th overall or 5th + 26th overall.
That would make sense, or 3rd and a top prospect from last year. Picking 3rd nets you either Stenberg or your choice of the best available defenseman. I’m not sold at San Jose taking another forward, when their need is defense. It appears that #2 or #3 is going to be a defenseman. If the deal is right, you make that trade. I also hear rumors that Nylander is on the block. I wonder if San Jose or Chicago would consider moving #2 or #4 to get a scoring winger.
I just dont think the Leafs trade down. I would want a lot more, like a stupid over payment.
May 26, 2026 at 11:24 am #73441PrinceLH
ParticipantMcKenna < 3rd + 24th overall or 5th + 26th overall.
That would make sense, or 3rd and a top prospect from last year. Picking 3rd nets you either Stenberg or your choice of the best available defenseman. I’m not sold at San Jose taking another forward, when their need is defense. It appears that #2 or #3 is going to be a defenseman. If the deal is right, you make that trade. I also hear rumors that Nylander is on the block. I wonder if San Jose or Chicago would consider moving #2 or #4 to get a scoring winger.
May 26, 2026 at 10:34 am #73439senstrolltwo
Participantsaw this scouting report.
Scouting Report: Agile, fearless offensive dynamo who can work wonders on the powerplay; owns perhaps the best set of hands in the draft. As with all players in this mold, the slight forward is at his best on the powerplay, capable of single-handedly generating goals. Even strength is the problem, with backchecking the furthest thing from his mind. And at his small size, that willingness to fly into danger may pose injury problems down the road.
worth taking #1?
May 26, 2026 at 7:10 am #73433senstrolltwo
ParticipantAgain, missing the clear examples of guys like Seider, Makar and Hughes NOT going 1st overall in recent years and yet being better than whoever was drafted 1st overall.
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I said 2017 Makar year right in my post? why so dense?
Also, I said ignoring all the drafts a D was taken #1, as they Leafs would have taken a D #1 that year also.
and Dahlin vs Q hughes is close. Both top pair #1, nobody would have traded down from Dahlin to take Hughes that year. so thats a dumb point. besides like I fucking mentioned, that year is excluded because a D was #1 anyway.you just argue for the sake if it, dont care to read or actually have a normal discussion, you have to have an enemy at all times to feel value, its sad
May 25, 2026 at 5:56 pm #73423Unholy_Goalie
Participantmissing the point again of course. Trading down to pick a D. that the the Leafs need more ..according to a lot of people.
its not Nugent-Hopkins vs. Landeskog, which is dumb thats basically a toss up. but it would be Nugent-Hopkins vs trading down to #4 to select Adam Larsson. the first D taken, or whoever was the projected top D in the draft.
also, I wouldnt care if my team to RNH or Landeskog, both ended up as good NHLs players. worth the picks. 1000 points for RNHNo team is good enough to know for sure that trading down from #1 to 3 or 4 to select a D is the right move. its way to risky and based on all info..will end up looking really bad
Again, missing the clear examples of guys like Seider, Makar and Hughes NOT going 1st overall in recent years and yet being better than whoever was drafted 1st overall.
This draft could easily be one of those years where the defects with McKenna (small, questionable drive, no defense, winger, one-dimensional) make it much easier for the Leafs to trade down and not regret it as the top end D in this draft are rather strong and provide the Leafs with attributes they don’t have and have struggled to acquire.
McKenna < 3rd + 24th overall or 5th + 26th overall.
May 25, 2026 at 4:24 pm #73421senstrolltwo
ParticipantWell, not to go FULL UG on you, it’s only delayed for now.
I wonder if Domi a had a core surgery simular to what Jarnkrok had and re-aggrevated something.it was a weird. out indefinitely, complications after surgery and likely wont be ready. sounds like someone who may end up ltir.
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