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ParticipantLmao… we wont have our 2nd round pick this year due to the Nemeth trade
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ParticipantThink it’s a given will be top 5. If it wasn’t for Quick it would be 5-0 now.At least they are playing hard against a top team in East.
Please get a haul for Trocheck. But I’m not holding my breath. Need to have at least 3 #1 and 2 top prospects before deadline. Already have the 2 #1 and one prospect. Not asking for much…Well, we got Greentree, hes a high end prospect. If we can get Stramel from Wild, hes a solid C prospect with potential to be a solid 2C… and if we can get McKenna or Stenberg in the draft… would be a solid start here. If Schneider gets moved, I have a hunch someone will overpay for him. Throw in Gabe and Laba. We dont have much on D though.
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ParticipantUnfortunately this is how I expect the games to go in the near future.
Without Panarin driving the play up the ice and the non existent transition game from our very slow and average D. Expect low scoring games. Hell they were putrid with him somehow.
Btw interesting Panarin now saying the Rangers never really offered him a new contract upon him speaking in LA. Belief is he wanted Kings or even go back to Russia. Not sure I believe that.I dont believe anything anyone is saying when it comes to this trade. There was absolutely NO WAY Panarin was going back to Russia after he had to smuggle his family out of the country because of his political affiliations.
Just gonna deal with it and hope it gets better from here on.
This is a full blown tank, and honestly I hope we get the 2nd overall pick. This way its not on our GM to make the choice between McKenna and Stenberg.
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ParticipantI was talking more of this current iteration of the team. But yeah I get it. Drury does seem to fire a lot of people yet keep his job.
Also interesting is the fact that the supposed mutiny on Drury last year started with Panarin ..involving Trouba, Kreider. Notice who are all gone. Guess we should brush up more on the amateurs and draft at least the next 3 years anyway. There’s no easy retool. Not with this group.It was funny when the trade came through I kept refreshing the page to see what other pieces we got. I’m like must be our WI-FI conking out because I only see Greentree and a 3rd.
I kept thinking the same thing about the trade… Im sitting here posting… just wait Im sure this is just the early call on the trade, Im sure more is coming… nope.
Well, one more year after this, Miller has a 15 team no-trade and we can get out from that. Fox becomes a 15 team no-trade the same year.
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ParticipantOrtmeyer , Tanner Glass..talk about world class skill. What could go wrong with them evaluating talent. I think that’s why fans don’t trust the organization, it’s like how many awful moves that completely backfire do you get? There is no accountability within the organization. Nobody loses their job ..hell Lafreniere gives the puck away every game softly skates back into the zone doesn’t pick up his guy and Boom it’s in the back of the net. What happens? NOTHiNG! Doesn’t miss a shift doesn’t get benched. It’s the Ranger way..
Actually one could argue that people do lose their job…
Coaches:
Quinn, fired. Gallant, fired. Laviolette, fired. Sullivan,…Management:
Gorton, Fired. Davidson, fired.Leadership:
Trouba, traded. Kreider, traded. Goodrow, traded. Panarin, traded.However…
Ortmeyer, Director of Player Development since 2017
Glass, Asst Director of Player Development since 2019aecliptic
ParticipantBut do you trust Rangers management to do the right thing? They haven’t exactly instilled confidence in the fan base.
Absolutely not. However as I said in the previous thread… even if they dont fire Drury, as long as they fire Ortmeyer and Glass Ill feel like management recognizes the egregious issues that exist in player development on this team.
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ParticipantIt will be 5 years before we sniff the playoffs again.. and if the GM in this case stands for (General Mismanager) is still here it could be much longer!
You think Yzerman trades a stud winger for a prospect and a 3rd conditional..No way! Imagine in a few years the Bruins trading Pastrnak away for this return even if he also has a NMC. Bruin fans would be out of their mind!
Again Drury created this mess by A – telling the league he wasn’t going to resign him B- Benching the player C just causing all this chaos that never needed to be. He could have waited to the real deadline not said anything try to smooth over the relationship with the players and not created this unnecessary situation.I dont mind if we dont sniff the playoffs for 5 years as long as this is done correctly.
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ParticipantCan anyone tell me what they see in Schneider? If a team is willing to overpay for him you take it
Im with you here, key word is overpay. For example, trading Schneider to the Sharks for EDM’s 1st round pick. Other options being if the Sharks want to send Musty or Bystedt for Schneider, I think those are solid options too.
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ParticipantPosted this in the other thread…
Lets revisit 2 trades…
Brock Nelson, locked up NTC (no team submission), netted the Isles Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, a conditional 1st and a conditional 3rd.
Claude Giroux, NMC (Florida was his choice and it wasnt a secret) the Flyers got Owen Tippett, a 1st and a 3rd. Heck, the Panthers didnt even intend on resigning Giroux, they gave that up for a straight up rental.Panarin is essentially the same age as those 2 when the trades occurred, and theres no debate that hes the better player between the 2.
So to not get, at the very least, a conditional 1st of some sort (or a conditional 2nd that could be a 1st) and a 3rd as the kicker to Greentree is not good.
What Drury should do with the vacated cap… assuming Trocheck, Schneider, Raddysh, Carrick are moved… is he should monetize it by taking other teams bad contracts, for example, get MTL to pay a 2nd to take on Laine. Get EDM to give us something to take on Mangiapane. Maybe Tampa wants to unload Bjorkstrand. This is where we should be.
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ParticipantWhat Drury does with the vacated cap is also a factor. I want JRob. JRob, Greentree, cond 3rd for Panarin (and whatever is needed to acquire Robertson) is easier to digest.
JRob will most likely be an off-season move for Dallas.
What Drury should do with the vacated cap… assuming Trocheck, Schneider, Raddysh, Carrick are moved… is he should monetize it by taking other teams bad contracts, for example, get MTL to pay a 2nd to take on Laine. Get EDM to give us something to take on Mangiapane. Maybe Tampa wants to unload Bjorkstrand. This is where we should be.
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