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You’d hope the Canucks do it right this time, but who knows with this owner? After following this team for over 50 years the apathy has been increasing the last decade or so. The best thing FA can do is stay away from management and let them do their jobs. Two or three more years of finishing bottom 5 and adding high character players who want to play in Canada will be critical. That said my expectations are not very high these days.
It’s all on the owner for sure. Even though I’m a little bit frank about the people hired, I’m being critical of ownership being near sighted on his investment. Spend some more now to insure you have a great product later. The AHL front office they have put together is more likely to make mistakes… and possibly already have.
Keep in mind that this management and group of coaches has been selected not for rebuilding success, but for cost savings. RJ and MM both lowest paid in the league and promoted from within for that reason. Any success will be a bonus to the owner but make no mistake, that comes second to the savings.
Look at why it didnt work out with Gold. He wanted market salary… he wanted to overhaul our failing group of fucktards for his own guys and all at market value. He wanted to do what this team needs… competent people at all levels. With the new position filings, we get inexperience at all levels instead with positions that Gold would have added still absent. Will they succeed? Historically, they will fail in their first and perhaps 2nd attempts at their respective jobs before gaining that needed experience. I know some will comment about negativity but it’s just the reality of the situation.
I would feel better with the overhaul Gold wanted. We still have much of the staff who sucked ass at their jobs. I doubt we would have the coach and his son on the same team. Something that seems so ridiculous after the poison room the team had over the last couple of seasons. Now the potential is sitting right there like the last couple of years wasn’t a lesson enough… and this is what I mean… inexperience or just arrogance? They are going to have a room full of players who can’t be honest with each other about the coach or blow off steam with Caleb in the room. How is it going to affect Caleb if and when the fans and media do their thing and apply their outrage on Manny… or the other way round if Caleb is not living up to what could be inflated expectations… something this market is always guilty of(hating a player for not meeting unrealistic expectations). What about little tiffs involving Caleb… too easy for it to become personal when he’s the coaches kid. One year in school the teachers kid was in our class. Human nature made it tough on this kid… Lots of spite percolating. In hind sight, he didnt get special treatment… but people hated him for it.
The big test will be how much they resist the owner when he starts declaring the team has rebuilt enough and wants to rush into the playoffs. Seeing as the Canucks top staff have all been promoted from within and been on his payroll for decades, I doubt there will be any pushback. The voices are unified on this group right now… but I think there is a lot of short sightedness happening already. same as always.
JR/PA totally misread the Canadian market. They were doomed for failure.
They couldnt even get a read on the team let alone the market. They misread and destroyed the team’s leadership… handed it over to the spoiled American clique… led by a mental case bully. All the locker room shit started after Horvat was chased out of town for poor leadership of all things. Players like Schenn and Cole kept head case self serving Miller under check and stood up for the younger guys. Once all those guys were gone it was only a matter of time. A lot of fans were cheering it on because they dreamed of a tougher team. Its not as easy as that. You need your tougher core to be true leaders and all on the same page… not asshole bullies who go out of their way to split the room.
Canucks have a bunch of 2/3 Cs including the Swedish Disappointment guy. They still need a 1C they should bring drafting top five for two more years.Likker doesn’t seem like an NHL guy to em. Just my take I may be wrong.JR and Allvin were stupid, Worst management ever so I am not sure they knew what the hell they were doing when drafting trading or signing contracts.
You and I got our share of grief for questioning some of their early moves. “This is so refreshing” the group thinkers were saying about every dumb move. Meanwhile I’m asking “how does this make any sense?”.
You can start with Vasily Podkolzin as a comparable. Both 1st round picks (granted Wright a higher pick).
Both reclamation projects. Pod netted a 4th.
Buy low or pass, Canucks don’t need him.
I’m not sure people are considering more than “do we need him right now”… It’s more than that. Do we stop drafting C’s now because we don’t need them outside of a top ranked C? Shouldnt we wait to see how Cootes/Malholtra/Rogowski/ track before we feel we have enough? Canucks need young players. He’s 21. He turns into a tradeable C if you manage to develop him. If you get him for a reasonable price and it works out, he will be worth more than they gave for him in a trade. This is a rebuild kind of move if it’s cost is reasonable. If he turns into a good player, then why would you not need that? Management clearly has interest so they must be considering what I’m speaking of.
That Podz trade was screwy though. It’s pretty obvious RT has no patience for Russian prospects. It didnt take long for that to show in Philly after chasing Podz out of town. He didnt give Podz enough time or opportunity to call it a reclamation. He was just slow to develop is all. Immediately after leaving the Canucks he was better with or without McDavid. RT was the problem. Limiting him to 59 games over 2 seasons was a mistake after a decent rookie showing. Sometimes he got scratched after stepping up even. Quick to scratch after a game where he had some poor shifts.
I think the same thing is happening with Wright. Plus SW is a C, Podz a winger. All thing equal, the C is going to cost more.
People seem to be higher on Lekkerimaki than me. Fair enough.
I think SW will be a upgrade on Lekker. I don’t look at it as giving up a young player… I see it as upgrading a prospect. Quantity is good for the prospect pool but quality is even better.
Don’t forget there is that 6’5 Russian centre also on a one way contract, If it’s for Debrusk sure why not, but I am not giving up a lot for Wright.
Some centers can play wing. Some can start in the AHL(Cootes) and hopefully there is a Petey trade.
I’d rather have a log jam of C’s over wingers. At least C’s can easily transition to wing unlike wingers to C. For example, I see Brooks Rogowski maybe ending up a winger eventually. 6’7″ 3rd line wing and penalty killer. I wouldn’t complain.
Novotony has no team to join. Lol
What do you mean? You mean summer showcase? They will be at the big show at least.
According to Google….
“Czechia’s projected 2027 World Junior team is a massive gold medal contender, returning up to 12 players from their previous squad, including tournament MVP Vojtěch Čihař.”
