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Guys like Ceci are best served on a contender to solidify their bottom pair. Not playing 20+ on a bottom feeder.
Ceci is a Top 4 guy on a team that went to the conference finals.
Codi Ceci is another can see the Flyers pursuing.
Yes, Ceci fills the slot as well. Without a doubt.
You haven’t made any points. Not a single one that supports your opinion. Now you’re just making stupid comments. As expected, you aren’t able to support your opinion that Hague could be a top 4 on the Flyers or on a lot of other teams as you have claimed. You’re an empty suit. I have zero interest in bringing on a 30+ year old defenseman for the Flyers.
That you don’t understand my points is not my problem. The Flyers need to add a Top 4 dman this offseason. Do you think the Flyers should stand pat on the blueline and do nothing?
Somehow you think what level those players are, has any bearing on what kind of player Hague can be with another team. Like I said, lack of common sense
You seem to have Hague Derangement Syndrome. You should consult a professional. I’ve already made my points on Hague. How about Klingberg? He’s UFA and a 3rd pairing guy for Edmonton. He’s playing well. Like some other elite teams, EDM is stacked on D: Bouchard, Nurse, Ekholm, Kulak and Walman. Injuries have been an issue for Klingberg and he is past his prime, which is how EDM was able to add him. He’s a Top 4 guy on the Flyers.
You aren’t making any sense. My stance on Hague as a player can be supported with facts and data. Meanwhile, your basis for what you think Hague is as a player, is based on where he sits on his teams depth chart. As if that determines what level a player is at. Rather than his actual level of play. Your comment really isn’t judged by an understanding of the game of hockey but rather just by simple common sense. If we hypothetically put Andrae in the same slot of the depth chart on Vegas that Hague is at, does that automatically make him a top 4 defenseman?
Tell me you have no understanding of how depth charts work in sports without telling me you have no understanding of how depth charts work in sports. You do understand Pietrangelo, McNabb, Theodore and Hanifin are all outstanding NHL defensemen, right?
Andrae should be in the lineup no doubt in a bottom pair role. He struggled more times than not in his last 25 games after good start. Need to see if he can solve a problem on the cheap.
That’s my point! If the Flyers do nothing, Andrae is in the lineup in a Top 4 slot this coming opening night. I’m fine with Andrae filling a 5/6 slot for a low cap hit but he can’t fill two slots. He’s only one player.
You keep posting anecdotes and don’t seem aware of what kind of player Hague actually is. Andrae has a good level of hockey sense and solid puck moving ability as well as being good defensively for a smaller guy. He is a player the Flyers should invest time in developing rather than pursuing mediocre players without much of a future in Hague
Your hatred of Hague seems pathological. The Flyers need one Top 4 guy here to upgrade the defense for this season. A few guys could fill the bill, including some guys who are 3rd pairing guys on teams stacked on the blueline. This is simple enough for a relative hockey novice to understand.
You’ve fallen into the same traps as all the other authentic Flyer fans. Thinking they’re one right guy away or should be hitting the UFA market. That’s the same failed strategies that has the Flyers as one of the worst run teams in all of pro sports and they haven’t been relevant for the last 15 years. By all means, keep doing the same thing. It’s bound to work this time.
Yes, the Flyers should break with the past and find a new way to bring in talent besides the draft, trades and free agent signings. They are old, failed strategies.
Andrae has legitimate top 4 potential while Hague does not.
Andrae doesn’t crack the Top 6 on the top teams in the league. You really think he’d play ahead of Hague in Vegas? Hahahaha! He will get games this year. So will Zamula and Drysdale. Hopefully, at least one surprises. The Flyers need that too . . . along with a proven Top 4 Dman.
No he shouldn’t. He should be on the 3rd pair where he belongs to see if he has an NHL future. Andrae didn’t show much after a solid 10 games or so.
The sad truth is Andrae is a Top 4 guy here on opening night if the Flyers don’t add on the blue line. Ristolainen will still be out a while.
Like it or not, this is going to be the Flyers Top 6 if they do nothing:
Sanheim-York
Drysdale-Andrae
Zamula-SeelerThat’s why they have to do something.
Andrae should’ve already been in their top 4. He has promise and should be getting plenty of ice time
I like Andrae better than Zamula or Drysdale. Only Drysdale is a difference maker but his difference making is in the negative direction.
Let’s say they are all top 4 on the Flyers. Adding them accomplishes what? They go from 4th worse to say 8th? What does that do in the big picture? It stunts the potential growth of players on the roster for no real gain.
You can’t have it both ways. Didn’t you say earlier the cupboard is bare on D prospects after Bonk? We agree on that. Getting Drysdale out of the Top 4 needs to be a priority. The only role I see for this guy here is as a protected 3rd pairing Dman who can help the power play a bit. I’m fine with clearing spots for the developing forwards and letting them run. Maybe we can debate about projected lines in some other post. Hahahaha!
I don’t see the point in signing fringe guys like you mentioned. Either go out and get quality who will be around for a while or stand pat with what you in house.
They’re all top 4 guys here and you don’t have to give up assets to get them. So whether it’s one year or two or five, you can make that move July 1. I like Faulk just fine but the Blues won’t give him away. I’ve seen it happen plenty of times: A team adds one right guy to the mix and it literally changes the entire team for the better.
This is the 3rd off season this management team has been overlooking. What have they added? They have underwhelmed big time
Briere came in spring of 23. He inherited a mess. I have high expectations for this off season. They aren’t sitting on what they’ve got now . . . at least I hope not. I think they have two must make moves this off season. Which UFA center do you think they should sign?
Maybe Gavrikov can help though he is 29. None of those guys moves the needle in any way. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders
I’m not looking to move the needle, I’m looking to move Drysdale, Zamula and Andrae down the depth chart and eventually out of Philly. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders.
No, they also need to acquire elite talent at center. They desperately need a #1 center.
You expect them to do all that this off season? Acquire a top center, Dman and goalie? They’re drafting their elite talent at center with the #6 overall draft pick. It’s unlikely whoever that is will be a #1 center this coming season. Somebody who knows hockey would know that.
If he signs there has to be a winger going out.
Makes Pelletier and Brink expendable. Yeah, I know Shabanov is one guy, but the Flyers need some size to offset the small forwards elsewhere.
Who do you suggest they pursue in free agency? What about via trade excluded Hague.
Hague is an RFA, but among UFAs, I’d have to give this some thought. There’s a few guys who I think would be upgrades on the Flyers even if the term is only a year or two. I don’t think they’ll go after Provorov. Hahahaha. But, they need a guy who can do what he does.
https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/_/year/2025/position/d/type/ufa
Having taken a closer look, Gavrikov, Lindgren, Dumoulin, and maybe Klingberg (injuries) would be Top 4 guys here. That’s what they need. A defensive Dman who can play 20+ minutes. It’s doable.
