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In terms of accelerating the rebuild, they view it as going for that if there’s a specific fit (skill set, age, etc) and otherwise preaching more patience. Whether that’s the right approach or not, we will see. But that’s how Briere views it.
They have been quick about jumping on needs and wants. The Woll trade was done fast, they made a solid offer on the other Carlson and of course the Leo offer. Not much can be done now until next off season except a hockey trade if the opportunity comes up. Reaching has cost them in the past. A couple teams in the East look improved on paper, but others have not or even regressed. Now, they have to work with what they’ve got.
The big issues for the Flyers to me look like:
Improved scoring: I think they can hit 270 goals this year, up 20 from last.
Better record against the East: They were only 22-20-8 last year. That needs to get better.
Maturity/Experience: They played down to weaker opponents too much. They let the wheels fall off the wagon in January after a couple injuries vs. ANA and a home & home pasting from TB. Complete crisis in confidence. Still a young team that lets things get in their heads a bit too much.Next season should be fun.
What does the failed pursuit of Carlsson reveal about the organization’s mindset? Can the Flyers realistically accelerate their rebuild, or is patience still the best path forward?
Briere just took all the cap increase, $10M, all the dead cap that went away this year, $7M and change, rounded up to the next million and threw it at LC to solve the 1C issue for half a decade. Shows they will do that in a unique situation which likely won’t repeat . . . including hopefully ever having $7M+ in dead cap space.
Twenty-two year old defensman David Jiricek has a golden opportunity in front of him come training camp. The big right-shooting defenseman will receive every opportunity to earn an opening-night roster spot.
Reirden/Tocchet have shown their system is pretty simple for most any Dman to plug into and play for at least a while. I like their chances of getting the most out of Jiricek.
There are still on-ice adjustments the Flyers want Michkov to make once he’s back in Voorhees.
Keeping MM with Cates is the way forward short to mid term. With Cates, MM had 18 points and was a plus 11 in his last 16 games. That ain’t broke so don’t fix it.
Zegras is good but shouldn’t get what Aho does even with cap inflation.
Oh no, that’s not the suggestion. Aho is clearly better. The tricky part, as I see it with Zegras, is he’s a solid 7.5% of the cap guy as he is today, but still has an upside. A solid PPG guy is probably a 10+% of the cap guy. He’s somewhere in the middle. I think he tops out as a .9 guy give or take. Which does put him in a pretty elite grouping.
Some PPG averages for 25 YO and on for comparison:
Aho: 0.997
Larkin: 0.944
Konecny: 0.925
Hischier: 0.886For example, Carolina’s Sebastian Aho carries a $9.75 AAV on his current deal (which started in 2024-25).
Aho has been a consistent PPG guy for pretty well his entire career.
AHO
Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS PPG
2016-17 19 CAR NHL RW 82 24 25 49 0.598
2017-18 20 CAR NHL RW 78 29 36 65 0.833
2018-19 21 CAR NHL C 82 30 53 83 1.012
2019-20 22 CAR NHL F 68 38 28 66 0.971
2020-21 23 CAR NHL F 56 24 33 57 1.018
2021-22 24 CAR NHL F 79 37 44 81 1.025
445 182 219 401 0.9012022-23 25 CAR NHL F 75 36 31 67 0.893
2023-24 26 CAR NHL F 78 36 53 89 1.141
2024-25 27 CAR NHL F 79 29 45 74 0.937
2025-26 28 CAR NHL F 79 27 53 80 1.013
311 128 182 310 0.997Zegras has been a consistent .8 PPG guy for the three years he’s been healthy. He still has a nice upside though, just heading into his 25 YO season when top players tend to find higher levels of production from 25 on.
ZEGRAS
Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS PPG
2020-21 19 ANA NHL C 24 3 10 13 0.542
2021-22 20 ANA NHL C 75 23 38 61 0.813
2022-23 21 ANA NHL C 81 23 42 65 0.802
2023-24 22 ANA NHL C 31 6 9 15 0.484
2024-25 23 ANA NHL C 57 12 20 32 0.561
2025-26 24 PHI NHL C 81 26 41 67 0.827
349 93 160 253 0.725Do you think 4 teams will shit the bed again down the stretch ?
I know you will. Even a midwit hockey fan could have said, “what about the Caps?” and you’d have hit your quota for being right for the season. They did improve, BUF got worse. Most teams are what you claim the Flyers to be: Unable to commit to a serious rebuild, holes down the middle and on D, shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
The Flyers will try to keep Zegras under 10M but that may be tough.
If that’s a 7 year deal, I’d jump on that. Assuming cap increases $10M a year:
$10,000,000 $104,000,000 9.62%
$10,000,000 $114,000,000 8.77%
$10,000,000 $124,000,000 8.06%
$10,000,000 $134,000,000 7.46%
$10,000,000 $144,000,000 6.94%
$10,000,000 $154,000,000 6.49%
$10,000,000 $164,000,000 6.10%“Zegras, for example, isn’t going to get anything like $12 million AAV. The question is whether Philly can keep it closer to $9 million than to $10 million.”
The comp will be Hischier’s recent deal. $11,700,000 cap hit starting NEXT year for 4 years. That’ll be a small bit over 10% of the cap to start. Hichier is a solid .9+ PPG guy, is a top notch two way and faceoff guy and is Jersey’s captain. Zegras isn’t as good as Hischier but he is just heading into his 25 YO season and has an upside. Even if Zegras doesn’t improve at all from his current production, he’s a .8+ PPG guy. He’s a solid 7.5% against the cap guy in my view.
go flyers. this current group aint going anywhere even with a couple tweaks. road to nowhere
Which teams are going somewhere? Have you been watching or just running the same old idiocy through the recycle machine? As always, you grossly overestimate the rest of the league.
I’m glad the deal fell through. All I could see was that contract handcuffing the team for the next 5 years. It took almost a decade to get out from under all the bad contracts this team had.
That’s how Danny structured the deal: Take this year’s entire cap increase plus all the dead cap money (Hayes-Atkinson) that’s now available and throw it at Carlsson. I have no problem letting the current group, with a couple tweaks, keep going. 1C and 1D are wants at this stage.
