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October 6, 2025 at 5:46 pm in reply to: Flyers Trade Ellis to Sharks for Grundstrom and Guryev #39626
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ParticipantCarl Grundstrom > ND
Grundy cleared waivers. I guess the Flyers have a decision to make.
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ParticipantThat’s great. Felt like it was never going to happen.
October 5, 2025 at 5:14 pm in reply to: Flyers Trade Ellis to Sharks for Grundstrom and Guryev #39399Flyers_01
ParticipantGrundstrom is already on waivers. Guryev most likely never plays a game in the NHL.
What is the upside of this for the Sharks? They are only 2.5 mill from the cap and already have close to 20 mill on LTIR before Ellis. They could’ve just waived Grunstrom themselves. Did they really need another 6.25 mill of LTIR (they will be paying approx $10 mill actual cash for the privilege) for the next 2 years?
Edit : According to Sharks fans, it seems that the Sharks really wanted to open up a contract slot (and neither player traded were in the sharks plans) so that their 2 top prospects could both play in the NHL this year plus the potential for a roster purge at the TDL. The Ellis contract keeps them above the floor if that happens plus the Carey Price contract expires after this year. This gives them an extra year of LTIR.
Looks like a win/win.
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ParticipantConditional 6th round pick also sent to San Jose for Carl Grundstrom (F) and Artem Guryev (D).
I’m shocked that they were actually able to trade him. I thought the Flyers would have to sit on that contract one more year because it isn’t front loaded and the acquiring team has to pay his full salary.
On that note Grundstrom and his 1.8mill contract was immediately put on waivers and Guryev is not predicted to ever play in the NHL and is currently playing in the ECHL.
I’m not sure what the Sharks got out of this other than freeing up a contract slot and a 6th for taking on an additional 8 mill salary? They were already above the cap floor and they could’ve just waived Grundstrom themselves.
Guryev and Grundstrom are off the books after this year and make half of Ellis. The sharks will be paying Ellis salary for 2 years for some reason (10 mill) and have less salary cap space than the Flyers now. Make this make sense from the Sharks side?
Barring any new information coming out, this does look like a steal for DB. Congrats.
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October 5, 2025 at 11:56 am in reply to: Flyers Preseason Gameday: Oct. 4 vs. Utica… sorry, NJ #39318Flyers_01
ParticipantI want to see Luchanko in more attacking situations.
I think being on the Flyers 4th line is not in the best interests for his development but on the other hand Briere doesn’t have to explain how Jett “blew him away from day 1 last year” and made the roster while sending him back this year.
He should be in the OHL on a much improved team getting top minutes.
You also have to think Tortorella coaching anybody last year wasn’t in anybody’s best interest.
Tortorella’s record number of line changes
It’s a shame DB couldn’t find a way to bring back Torts this year, i guess even DB couldn’t cover up Torts abusing players and quitting on the team no matter how much he tried.
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October 4, 2025 at 3:10 pm in reply to: Flyers Preseason Gameday: Oct. 4 vs. Utica… sorry, NJ #39239Flyers_01
Participant–If you’re trying to see what Jett Luchanko has, you’d like for him to be playing higher in the lineup. While Rodrigo Abols has had a solid preseason, there’s a cap on what offensive risk taking Luchanko can do with the fourth line. Good news, Luchanko did good work coming off the wall to find Travis Sanheim on the game tying goal.
-And speaking of Sanheim, he and Cam York continue to put together excellent shifts together as a pairing.
If Jett makes the team as a 4th line player, do you feel he’d be better off in the OHL (on a much improved team from last year) playing top minutes or playing the 4th line grinder for the Flyers?
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ParticipantTippett loves to shoot the puck. Among skaters with 1,000 minutes of ice time over the past two seasons, he ranks fifth in shot attempt rate: 23.00 per 60 minutes, just ahead of Auston Matthews (via Natural Stat Trick). However, Tippett’s goal- and point-scoring rates are the worst out of anyone in the top 10. It’s not particularly close, either.
Didn’t realize how many shots Tipp took but yea playing him on the 1st line and that 8 year contract is not great.
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ParticipantFwiw, it looks like ND and Jett make the team with Abols being the cut if they go with 8 defensemen. Not very smart. I still can’t believe the Flyers think ND is an NHL hockey player.
Speaking with a source Thursday, I was told 2024 first-round pick Jett Luchanko is likely to at least start the year in the NHL, though not much else is set in stone, and he may ultimately be returned to the OHL’s Guelph Storm once the regular season begins.
Given the two aforementioned forwards (presumably) locking in spots, it has left Rodrigo Abols as someone on the outs (at least to start the season) up front; Nicolas Deslauriers, though likely to be the 13th forward more times than not, is not going to be waived. While Abols could find himself en route to the AHL’s Lehigh Valley Phantoms by the start of next week, there is a possibility that the Flyers open the year with 14 forwards.
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ParticipantRick Tocchet makes curious lineup decisions for Flyers’ penultimate preseason game
Some Abols/Luchanko perspective from last night.
That could mean bad news for Luchanko, who either has to stay in the NHL or be sent back to the OHL for this season. Does a decision come in the next couple of days? Does it happen before the Flyers’ final preseason game this Saturday? If he’s not going to be in any more exhibition games for the Flyers, why keep him around?
It’s crazy how much the narrative in the media has changed around Jett in the last 24 hours. It’s almost like Comcast PR sent a memo to everyone.
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Participant– boucher is unbearable on the home telecast. at least he thinks the jett should go back to juniors.
It’s interesting that in the last 48 hours an article or two has finally popped up finally saying that maybe it’s not so bad if he goes back to juniors. Up until then it was just go, go , go, Jett needs to be in the NHL no matter what.
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Participantafter “rebuilding” the last 3 years this is the roster. job well done.
– zamula hasn’t taken that next step and may never will. if you can get a mid rd pick for him I do it.
– seeing where the flyers are at, they need to stop worrying about size and fit. Andrae should be on that bottom pair as he has more upside than the rest. he was nhl ready a year ago flahr was touting.
– carrying 8 dman is a joke if they go that route. is it to save face and not have to cut gilbert or juulson?
– if you’re going to keep ginnnig then play him, unless flat out awful, and live with his mistakes.
– JD trade looking better and better. not even karl dykhuis level. if he keeps up his inconsistent play, will they re-sign him to save face?
– tippet contract will not be a good one. you do not give non-core players 8 years.
– goaltending will keep the ship sinking. really don’t see vlader helping. he was on a better team last year and put up below average numbers.
– at what point do you cut bait with ersson. he also needs a new contract at years end. should have taken a shot with askarov when he was available
– boucher is unbearable on the home telecast. at least he thinks the jett should go back to juniors.
flyers fans thinking this team has a “shot” for the playoffs is hysterical.
I don’t think carrying 8 dmen is ever a great look for a team. It sends the message that you don’t have enough quality forwards to dress and for a team in year 3 of a rebuild that should be showcasing young forward talent, it sends the message you have failed in your job. I don’t think you will see the Blackhawks carrying 8 defensemen when they finalize their roster.
Unless you have a Dominik Hasek, the majority of the goalies will not look good behind a bad defense. A point the Flyers have never addressed in a practical manner. The goalies get all the blame but the defensive core, which on average has been below average, generally gets a pass. And no, being on the Flyers top 4 doesn’t make you a top defenseman in the league.
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-current-players-ranked-top-20-defensemen-2025
You aren’t going to see a Flyers defenseman anywhere near that list. No one in the system is even projected to ever be on that list. If you aren’t going to have great goaltending, you need great defense and the Flyers have neither. The Flyers were the #1 team in the league in blocked shots but near the bottom in many advanced stats and it’s hard to argue that they have improved from the team that got Fletcher fired other than this front office is much better at controlling the media.
The team just spent 3 years trying to play harder, not smarter. Blocking a puck with your face is better than making a good outlet pass, etc.
Play the younger guys and live with the mistakes, you can’t have players walking on eggshells, like they have been for the last 3 years. The Flyers FO has done the players a huge disservice and the 2 survivors aren’t going to accept any blame.
Coots : Couturier said the following about the team’s ineffective power play: “It was almost like, the last couple years, guys were scared to make plays and get pulled off [the power play]. It’s not quite, I think, the mentality or philosophy you want to have going into a power play and trying to score a goal, when you’re scared to make plays.”
Is it any wonder the team building failed under Torts/Jones/DB?
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ParticipantHahaha, that’s an option. Playing alongside junior slugs on a bad team in Guelph is always an option.
One of the major talking points for anyone that wants Luchanko to stay with the Flyers is the thought that him heading back to the Guelph Storm wouldn’t even get his offense going because it is such a poor scoring environment. Well, that might have been the case in previous seasons but it isn’t anymore.
For the 2025-26 season, the Storm added some veterans and kept a whole lot of players around. Their main acquisition this summer was getting overage forward Ethan Miedema from the Kingston Frontenacs. The 20-year-old former fourth-round pick of the Buffalo Sabres already leads the Storm in scoring with five points through the first four games and should easily be in contention to be Luchanko’s wing if he returns to Guelph.
And even then, the Storm kept solid defenseman prospect Quinn Beauchesne on the team, have plenty of veterans like Carter Stevens, Hunter McKenzie, new captain Charlie Pacquette, and even extremely young top prospects like forward Jaakko Wycisk, who should be one of the best players of the 2027 NHL Draft class. Guelph is no London or Oshawa in terms of being loaded with NHL prospects, but there is easily a path that they can take to being a playoff team this season.The narrative around the Storm being this terrible experience like it’s the worst hockey team ever put together, should probably stop.
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ParticipantThat was quite the word salad by Tocchet. It was like a high schooler asked to give a report on a book he hadn’t read. Let’s hope Charlie’s take is wrong and the choice isn’t Jett over Abols.
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Participantthat piece is a joke as no way bonk starts on the flyers for a variety of reasons.
on a side not sure how any real flyers fan can have faith/optimism with this team, farm system, and management to get them to “contending” status.
The article may be over the top but isn’t that far off from other puff pieces the Flyers are putting out there. He’ll start in the AHL but it may just be to get in shape. At least that seems to be the message from a number of outlets. Hopefully he spends the year in the AHL regardless of how bad the big club defense is player development needs to come first during a ‘rebuild’.
yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_top_prospect_out_week_to_week_with_upper_body_injury/s1_14825_42831115
Head coach Rick Tocchet has reportedly become disenfranchised with the available defense options, telling NHL contributor Bill Meltzer that nobody has stepped up enough to grab one of the team’s bubble spots on defense.
Should that disappointing play continue into the first few weeks of the regular season, the Flyers could conceivably use Bonk’s first few games with the Phantoms as a makeshift training camp. If he excels through the first few weeks, Philadelphia could recall him for an opportunity at the NHL level.-
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ParticipantHard to earn a spot from the hot tub but it is the Flyers.
From the article :
In fact, he might be in the running simply by having not played.
That’s not to say Bonk will hit the ground running and establish himself as an outstanding rookie defenseman immediately. Yet, the average to rather uninspiring play from some of the blueliners not in the top two pairs has Bonk with a chance. Bonk might end up with the Flyers as soon as he’s physically ready to play.
It’s basically saying the Flyers defense is so bad that you don’t have to earn a spot to make the big club, you just have to be breathing. It doesn’t sound like some things have improved at all since Torts left but they still have that patented Flyers Stanley Cup winning culture to build around although the closest they’ve been to the cup is watching it on TV.
If training camp doesn’t matter, you know what this means? Jett has a chance to make the big club!
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