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ParticipantOf course you can’t see it because you don’t know what you’re looking at. Better offense, defense and goaltending. Must be overwhelming for you.
Goaltending has been ok but really not seeing much else. Playing Sanheim 30 min a night with Andrae in the minors doesn’t seem like a long term solution. Sounds like something Torts would do. Tocchet’s lineup decisions are questionable at best so far and he might not be any better than Torts.
The way Rick Tocchet has talked about and used Matvei Michkov early on I think comes from a place of misunderstanding.
Team is 0-2. Michkov has been neutered. Has played 13 and 14 mins. Coach keeps talking about how he needs to play north and says all of the top players do.I don’t know how you can watch Kucherov, Draisaitl, Marner, Kane, Panarin, Rantanen, Strome, Reinhart, Stone, Fox, Boldy, Bouchard (the list goes on) and come to the conclusion that the next development step for Michkov has to be downhill pace rather than leaning into strengths.
I don’t think Scott Wheeler agrees with you.
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Participantcomparing a rookie in buium to a seasoned very like JD is a tad off base. love your obsession with buium. playing a tad under 25 minutes a night last game. take him and his play over what the flyers have to offer, going forward.
however the chances of the flyers developing buium into a top pair guy are slim. better off for laughtchenko. he bleeds fleyrs and plays flyers hockey.
The Flyers and a vocal segment of their fans would rather die on the 1974-75 hill than change. Bleeds orange and black and was born to be a Flyer.
Can’t see how anything has changed under DB and Jonesy other than the shiny packaging. What’s inside the box is still the same.
The Wild have been laughing every day for the last 2 years over the Flyers incompetence.
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ParticipantThe edit button disappeared so i can’t fix the video of the goal.
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ParticipantHahaha! .897 for Ersson. Hardly awful. He stopped a lot of pucks. Very disappointed they didn’t steal another point or two these last two games. It was there for them. The reffing tonight and OT goal ruling were trash. Drysdale has been OK. I don’t care about his offense. He looks much better defensively. Speaking of offense, Zeev Buium scored his first NHL goal tonight en route to his first -4 game against the high octane scoring power of Columbus. Defensively, he’s making Drysdale look like Larry Robinson.
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Not to turn this into a Jett vs Zeev debate but you did bring him up. Zeev is playing 20+ min a night and QBing the 1st PP unit in his 1st ever NHL minutes. He is going to take his lumps but the Wild think he is worth it for a team that isn’t going to the Stanley Cup this year. His first goal came in his second game while he was QBing the PP. Meanwhile Jett, who is the same age, is lucky if he plays 7 minutes a night every other game? Jett’s played 60 minutes in 2 years, Zeev has played 45 in 2 games. How much PP time did Jett get so far this year? Jett’s made the team 2 years in a row, how long did it take him to score his 1st goal? His 1st points? I’ll wait.
How many minutes do you think Zeev would be playing on the Flyers thin blue line if he was available? I get that you want to die on this hill for some reason but Jett was a mistake. That is on the GM, not the player.
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ParticipantTocchet and Tortorella coach the game differently, sure. But the decision-making? That’s all too familiar. It arguably cost the team a shot at the postseason in 2023–24, and, more importantly, the team’s young talent is worse off.
Michkov, especially, needs someone who will give him the keys. Interim head coach Brad Shaw gave him them for his entire nine-game stint. Now, it’s potentially back to square one. That’d be a nightmare, given how dominant the 20-year-old Russian already is.
You should never overreact to one game. However, some things that were feared with the Tocchet hire came to fruition in Florida. Can he turn it around, or did the Flyers make another regrettable coaching hire?That was after game 1 but now after game 2 it doesn’t seem like it was a 1 off. Both Michkov and Konecny have seen their minutes crater under Tocchet so far while Coots minutes have exploded to pre back surgery TOI and Sanheim is putting up insane minutes.
Anyway, to soon for overreactions and the Flyers desperately need York back to help Sanheim’s minutes so let’s see what game 3 brings but he doesn’t trust MM or TK so far. Let’s see if Jett draws back to the press box for a vet.
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ParticipantI feel bad for Brink after he had a great game but Drysdale with 0 points and 0 SOG. Sanheim played another 30 minutes tonight. Neither keeper had .900 sv% tonight
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Participant0 shots so far
Through 2 complete games. Drysdale has 0 SOG, 0 points, -1. I can see the Makar comparison.
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ParticipantEkblad is a very good all-around defenseman. Bouchard is a very good offensive defenseman. Four Nations was a tournament and the teams were picked by the top hockey guys from the included countries. But I guess they weren’t “good talent evaluators.” You can laugh all you want. All Star game replacement? Now, that’s funny. What does Tony DeAngelo have to do with where the Flyers are at today? He hasn’t played here in three years. Fletcher brought him in. Fletcher, like Torts, is gone.
I never said that they weren’t good talent evaluators. I said their job was to put together what they thought was the best team for the tournament so factors other than just raw talent are in play. There’s only one puck. Maybe they had enough high end offensive defensemen and needed more defensively oriented defensemen. Right shot/Left shot, etc. The same things everyone talks about the Flyers needing up and down the lineup, a good blend that complements each other.
The All-Star Weekend, which took a hiatus in favor of 4 Nations this year, will return at the New York Islanders’ UBS Arena next February. That will serve as a bon voyage event ahead of the 2026 Winter Olympics in Italy, which mark the return of NHL players for the first time since 2014.
It was a one off tournament, which may never happen again, that replaced the all-star game. It was great, exciting and really promoted the game, but ultimately meaningless warmup to the Olympics. In soccer it would be called a “friendly” tournament.
TDA was an example at how poor the Flyers are at evaluating and making decisions regarding players. If you think the current Flyers brass, which included DB, is under appreciated for the moves they make you can certainly attempt to make that case but you’d be wrong. While Fletcher may be gone players such as Drysdale and Risto that he and to a lesser extent DB acquired still remain. Fletch was not a man who went rogue. Players were only acquired if everyone was on board because he was the ultimate collaborator. If you think they have a better process and results now, feel free to make your case but let’s not pretend the Flyers didn’t exist before 10/8/25.
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ParticipantWith the Flyers playing against Ghost tonight, is there any question as to him having a better career since he left the Flyers than anyone who played for the Flyers except maybe Sanheim over the last 5 years?
He plays 20 minutes a night dman averaging 29 pts/yr on the PP the last 2 years while making 3.2 mill/yr and cost nothing to acquire. Thankfully the Flyers have no issues on the PP. That’s why Carolina is a well run team and the Flyers keep throwing darts and draft picks at the wrong players. He’s making only slightly more than Nick Seeler, the guy the Flyers can’t live without and who they gave a 4 year contract.
Unfortunately the Flyers have shown no signs of growth on defensive talent evaluation in the last 6 years.
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ParticipantThanks for the superficial overview. Now look at the rest of the D.
Panthers: Jones-trade, Schmidt-FA, Kulikov-FA, Mikkola-FA, Forsling-waivers!!! WAIVERS!
Oilers: Walman-trade, Ekholm-trade, Klingberg-FA, Kulak-tradeDid Ekblad, Nurse or Bouchard play in 4 Nations? Sanheim did. Thanks for playing.
I literally said that it’s ok to trade or sign the rest of your defense if needed if you have the cornerstones and you went and listed trades and UFAs that were acquired? ummmm .. so thanks for proving my point? The cornerstone dmen that were DRAFTED still count.
Another aspect that we haven’t talked about is you have to be smart on who these waivers and traded players are that you select. You can’t be trading for or signing Risto or TDA players unless their cap hit and performance are right for your team. Like TDA at $1 mill was a good play for the Hurricanes because he was cheap and Slavin covered up his deficiencies. He was a bad fit for the Flyers because they paid him more than his on ice value, plus traded picks, plus not having a Slavin to help him out. So a team has to good talent evaluators to evaluate what they have, what they need, and what they should spend to acquire them. The Flyers absolutely have none of the above.
What’s the 4 nations have to do with anything? I’m talking Stanley Cup and you are talking about the All-star game replacement? lol. Entertaining hockey and good for Sanheim but it doesn’t go beyond that. Both Bouchard and Ekblad are better than Sanheim but they picked who they thought would make the best team, not necessarily the best talent and their reasons are their own.
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