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Still can’t believe they sent Andrae down. He is one of the top 6 defensemen on this team as constructed. I wish writers would stop pretending he has a future with the Flyers. They treat him as a necessary evil when the large players fail.
just listen to the 1st minute. just shows how delusion of this franchise.
Sorry, could only make it through the first 30 seconds and didn’t hear the word rebuild once. In fact i think the first words were “the Flyers have been in that competitive mode the last 2 years”. At least someone is finally being honest. But yea they hit all the classics. Competitive, Hard to play against, old school, culture. All the buzzword bingo greatest hits. Can’t imagine the rest was much better.
From the article:
Why would the Flyers trade Owen Tippett?
While the entire package of Tippett is super exciting — a 6-foot-2 winger entering his prime that can skate as fast as anyone not named Connor McDavid in the NHL and has a wickedly powerful shot — the success has been dramatically inconsistent during his time in the Orange and BlackThat Tippet article was definitely a puff piece approved by Comcast. He’s a one-trick pony with one of the worst shooting percentages. in 2023 he was 11th in shots but only 56th in goals. Last year he dropped to 127th in goals. Historically he is an incredibly inefficient and indiscriminate shooter. When he limits his shots, like last year, and his goals drop you realize how badly you screwed up. He is 6’2″ though and you can’t teach that. Born to be a flyer.
The only thing keeping that contract from aging badly is the salary cap going up.
He’s the player the Flyers will likely send down to create space for a fourth-line center. Luchanko projects as a top-six center and needs that type of ice time (he’s had 7:40 and 8:49 in two games). So, unless he impresses in the next few games, he’ll be sent somewhere to develop (and based on the rules, that somewhere is most likely junior hockey).
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Those games were a reminder that while Luchanko has the upside and will eventually be a top-six center, he isn’t one yet. The Flyers can’t give him minimal ice time, typically designated for a checking line center, and expect it to benefit his development. They also can’t move him up in the lineup when the other centers are playing well, which has happened in recent games. It’s why general manager (GM) Daniel Briere is in a pickle with his prospect, one he knew he’d end up in with one of the elite young talents but didn’t know it would be Luchanko (although he had to anticipate it, considering the position).We’re not as sold — despite his team-leading 53 points in 48 OHL games — that there’s enough skill to make him worth the first-round bet, but the combination of raw athletic ability, high motor, solid skating and defensive acumen makes Luchanko an easy-to-project player. There’s a role in the NHL as a third-line checking forward in Luchanko’s near future, and for an August birthday, that’s rare.
Just saying the least experienced FO in the league might not be the people you should trust for player projections. It’s not like they got the jobs on merit or keen player evaluation skills. Also, there’s been plenty written about him not dominating the OHL and blaming it on the team he was on. A team which has since improved on the ice before this year started and would give him all the minutes he can handle.
Nobody expected the 4th line time to help his development except the people who make the decisions which is why their decision making is questionable but short of him losing a limb, even missing most of the offseason, there was no way DB’s prize pick was not going to make the team again. The reality always was that he should’ve started in the OHL (or college which because of DB he can’t).
Looks close to right for now considering the Flyers are one of 11 teams competing for 3 available playoff spots with five playoff locks, CAR, FLA, TB, WSH and TOR in the conference. Probably about 27%. Keep hoping for the worst and then alibiing when it doesn’t happen.
The majority of experts think that, if anything, moneypuck is too optimistic in it’s team point totals. They understand that this is a deeply flawed team.
The first period saw a marked difference in pace from the Flyers first game in Sunrise. Using a quick and disruptive forecheck, they built an early 6-3 shot advantage in the opening nine minutes of play.
Is it any coincidence that the 1st game they went with their big less skilled veterans lineup to a younger younger more skilled lineup last night on both offense and defense with players playing more balanced minutes?
The Flyers are going to be at a disadvantage on the ice most games this season. The Flyers need to stop trying to play the lineup they wish they had and play the best possible lineup for the team they actually have.
Flyers got a much needed 1st win last night. Coots and Sanheim’s minutes were down to more normal levels for the 1st time all season. Glad to see Andrae get almost 11 minutes.
Last year’s home opener had Coots playing 4th line wing with no explanation. I can’t imagine anyone is happier that Torts is gone than Couterier.
Couturier makes it clear on an early difference between Tocchet and Tortorella
Still can’t believe Torts was the face of the franchise for 3 years.
what will be the new slogan next year? this organization must laugh their ass off behind closed doors at flyers fans.
You mean their most valued customers.
Comcast has always cared so much about their customers.
One of the worst customer service companies that exists.
Absolutely. It has been scrubbed from their website. The public face of NEO was Tortorella. The player abusing coach who quit, quite publicly, on his team. They might have have stopped calling themselves the gold standard of NHL teams finally. I mean how often can you say that with a straight face? One of the worst run teams in hockey but a top notch PR department. Move on and pretend the last 3 years didn’t exist.
Playing a big heavy panthers lineup seems to me they need the beef of abols and ND……
Be typical flyers to call up andrae then sit him. Flyers need to see what they have in him, unless they have already determined he isn’t an nhl player. Juulson stinks and zamula hasn’t improved. Read someehwere zamuls agent is whining about playing time. Any truth tp that Bill?
Insert Andra and keep ginning as well.
Its early though they need to realize this is not a playoff nor anywhere near a contending team.
At the end of September, Andrae was sent to the Phantoms after playing just two preseason games. At the time, Flyers management seemed underwhelmed with his early performance. With two smaller statured offensive defensemen in York and Jamie Drysdale, the team seemed reticent on having a third.
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Following their opening two games (and really going back to the end of preseason), Flyers head coach Rick Tocchet hasn’t received consistent play from his depth defensemen. Egor Zamula struggled mightily in that time, Adam Ginning made the roster as a long shot, while Noah Juulsen has been relatively nondescript in his play.Gilbert, who had been waived prior to the York injury announcement, was scratched in both regular season games.
Deja vu. In choices between size and skill, youth and vet they picked the team they wish they had instead of for the team they actually have. I get that they would rather Emil never play an NHL game for them ever again because he would never make the FLA panthers 6’+ blue line but neither would most of the Flyers defense for other reasons. When given a choice between making the best bad choice or the worst bad choice. They tend to make the worst.
Good to see that Jett is projected to play. As long as he’s up he might as well be playing.
I do think Tocchet’s honeymoon period isn’t going to be long, he needs a win or at least to show growth as a team. A long losing streak to start the season isn’t going to sit well with a team that is in the playoff mix.
Nine of the next 10 Flyers game are at home.
* Emil Andrae has been recalled. Dennis Gilbert sent to the Phantoms.
* Flyers’ had an off day tonight. Morning skate at the arena tomorrow.
* The Bernie Parent memorial uniform patch and the “1” behind the nets debut tomorrow.Are they sure? Andrae will never be 6’2″ and 218lbs like Gilbert and Gilbert could be poached by other teams that covet him. just kidding on the covet part. That is apparently why he didn’t make the initial roster, not being a huge lumbering vet. What changed? He eat his wheaties? Reminds me of Torts doing the same thing at the beginning of last season after poop hit the fan. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Any word if Jett will will be watching the game from the press box? What about Bonk’s injury? What is it and has it escalated further or is he actually going to be on the ice soon?
Interested to see if BUF is willing to move Byram now that Josh Norris is expected to be out “long-term”. They are one of a very few teams that has actually been worse then the Flyers over the last decade. I do believe the smoke Tippett is on the market. The regime even if they cannot believe Risto will be reliable enough to stay healthy when he returns to be a mainstay in the top 6 until his contract expires.
For a team that is in the playoff mix and adding players, adding to that defense is a must. Hard to believe that Ghost, who has averaged 29 PP/yr points over the last 2 seasons, plays 20 minutes a night, 70+ games every year and only makes a little over half of Risto wasn’t an option when he was available a year ago for just over 3 mill. It would be great if the Flyers had a player like that but were to busy focusing on blocking pucks to worry about inexpensive puck moving defensemen who excel on the PP. DB and Jones are just smarter than Carolina.
Of course you can’t see it because you don’t know what you’re looking at. Better offense, defense and goaltending. Must be overwhelming for you.
Goaltending has been ok but really not seeing much else. Playing Sanheim 30 min a night with Andrae in the minors doesn’t seem like a long term solution. Sounds like something Torts would do. Tocchet’s lineup decisions are questionable at best so far and he might not be any better than Torts.
The way Rick Tocchet has talked about and used Matvei Michkov early on I think comes from a place of misunderstanding.
Team is 0-2. Michkov has been neutered. Has played 13 and 14 mins. Coach keeps talking about how he needs to play north and says all of the top players do.I don’t know how you can watch Kucherov, Draisaitl, Marner, Kane, Panarin, Rantanen, Strome, Reinhart, Stone, Fox, Boldy, Bouchard (the list goes on) and come to the conclusion that the next development step for Michkov has to be downhill pace rather than leaning into strengths.
I don’t think Scott Wheeler agrees with you.
comparing a rookie in buium to a seasoned very like JD is a tad off base. love your obsession with buium. playing a tad under 25 minutes a night last game. take him and his play over what the flyers have to offer, going forward.
however the chances of the flyers developing buium into a top pair guy are slim. better off for laughtchenko. he bleeds fleyrs and plays flyers hockey.
The Flyers and a vocal segment of their fans would rather die on the 1974-75 hill than change. Bleeds orange and black and was born to be a Flyer.
Can’t see how anything has changed under DB and Jonesy other than the shiny packaging. What’s inside the box is still the same.
The Wild have been laughing every day for the last 2 years over the Flyers incompetence.
