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senstrolltwo
ParticipantSeems good
Relative to their league, the 2025 Blue Jays have the best strikeout-avoiding offense this *century*.Correlation isn’t causation, of course, but the other teams from the last 25 years that are comparable outliers in terms of their contact ability have fared pretty well…
this Jays team gives me 2015 KCR vibes.
senstrolltwo
ParticipantAccording to the Athletic, the Yankees were winners at the TDL, and the Jays were losers. They didn’t like that we didn’t pick up a closer.
Ha right on cue
Varland and Dominguez won’t move the PR needle like the bigger stars here, and the Jays
The jays have a closer, so they didnt add another closer, I guess. but they upgraded a decent amount.
But they didnt get the big name RP, so wont be seen as a big win. we will see how it works outsenstrolltwo
ParticipantMore detail on the Jays BP moves. Yankees upgraded a bit more for sure, but this will do also
Toronto’s pen has been more good than great — middle of the pack in both ERA and WAR — and while that’s not a problem, exactly, it’s also a group heavily relying on a pair of breakout arms with almost no track record of this kind of performance, in lefty Brendon Little and righty Braydon Fisher. Free-agent closer Jeff Hoffman has been better than his 4.76 ERA would imply, as a third of his runs allowed came in one bad week-long May stretch, but he’s also not exactly been consistent, either. Throw in the struggles of since-released Chad Green, and injuries that have sidelined the underrated Yimi García, and all of a sudden, Toronto was looking at some real bullpen concerns.
They did not, comparatively, add big names. There’s no Duran, Miller, Doval or Bednar here. Instead, they added Louis Varland, who has posted the quietest 2.02 ERA that absolutely no one outside of Minnesota knows about — mostly because he’s not Duran or Griffin Jax — and hasn’t allowed a homer since April, in no small part because of this kind of velocity boost. That’s mostly about being in the bullpen and not the rotation, as he occasionally has been, but also: He touches 101 mph now.
Louis Varland has been adding velocity like nobody’s business over the last few seasons, and his entire arsenal is playing up now as a result. His four-seamer, sinker, and curveball all grade out as plus pitches in 2025 –– both by run value and Stuff+.
They also added Seranthony Domínguez, who has completely remade himself over the last two seasons, adding a high-quality sweeper last year and dropping his changeup for a splitter this year. To say those pitches have worked out is a bit of an understatement; between the two of them, they’ve allowed eight hits all season long. That’s it — and against righties, who mostly see the sweeper and the 97.7 mph four-seam, he’s allowed a mere .123/.260/.173 line.
Varland and Dominguez won’t move the PR needle like the bigger stars here, and the Jays’ bullpen won’t quite be relief-first in October, like other clubs will be. If this pitching staff is going to succeed, it’s going to be because they have a rotation that just added Shane Bieber to Kevin Gausman, Max Scherzer, Chris Bassitt and José Berríos. But with these two additions, they’re deeper — and a lot nastier, too.
senstrolltwo
ParticipantJays get Louie Varland (looks like great stats) and Ty France (meh).
pretty much my thoughts
Varland is not a well known name, but been really good. also have lots of years of control left. odd deal for Minny.
Jays accomplished most of the needs.. 2 upgraded RP, 1 maybe starter.
senstrolltwo
ParticipantThats my concern…he could be just a rental.
but thats all baked into the costs in Baseball. if he had term/control he would cost more.
not taking into account how much money owed, but you get the pointsenstrolltwo
ParticipantI’m tired of Jays playing it safe. If he gets back to form, their rotation becomes really good for a decent price (maybe 3rd best pitching prospect). The player option means he likely goes to FA. He’s pretty much a rental
are you saying this is the Jays playing it safe? because I think its the opposite. very risky for a decent P prospect
senstrolltwo
ParticipantIm on the fence about this. It could be great or a disaster.
He wont be back until mid August…maybe start him as a long relief arm until he’s 100%.
He has a player option which if he is good he will opt out, if he sucks, the Jays will be stuck paying it for a yearits a big hit or miss deal. Former cy young winner. Lots of upside, but giant question mark at this point
senstrolltwo
ParticipantToronto-Cleveland trade will be 1 for 1, source says.
Shane Bieber for Khal Stephen.
moves
senstrolltwo
ParticipantJays back on their bullshit, get this out of their system and back to winning all the games ffs
they did it, tried to give the game back.
TDL day.
A few more good RP off the board. Who is left for the Jays Bednar maybe?
a SP Adrian Houser might be an optionadding . I see Mason Miller might be available.. nice to have a pitcher who throws 102-104mph
senstrolltwo
ParticipantJays back on their bullshit, get this out of their system and back to winning all the games ffs
senstrolltwo
ParticipantThe top post literally says you have to update your password, silly.
Even I’m back!
that post wasnt there when i first went there.
But I dont know if I can reset my pw, not working at the moment. thats if im using the right address as I signed up almost 20 years ago. might have to start over
Edit – nm, found out what email I used..did not remember using that one and glad I still have it.
anyway…is there still forums to post in or is that gone?
senstrolltwo
ParticipantLeast surprising thing is actually a bunch of woke social justice idiots who believe these guys are guilty until proven innocent and then follow that up with guilty even when proven not guilty.
People deserve second chances especially when they’re found not guilty. That’s the purpose of the justice system, even one that absolutely loves to let professional criminals back out on the streets to perpetually reoffend. These guys will never do anything even remotely like this ever again and don’t deserve to lose their ability to continue to play hockey.
its not surprising you are like, Yes put all these players on my team, being King Rapist and Epstein Buddy supporter..its your brand
Having read some of the details and texts I dont want people like that on the team I cheer for, fuck them all..but its not surprising it continues to happen.
senstrolltwo
ParticipantLeafs should sign McLeod, Formenton and Foote to minimum contracts. All 25-27 and fill needs on the 4th line and 3rd pairing.
McLeod was great at FOs and Formenton is a speedy PKer with depth scoring. Foote is a big body RHD.
least surprising thing iv read today
senstrolltwo
Participantaaaanywho
Jays TDL.. I am guessing they add Pitching. A good RP and maybe a Starter.
They still have Varsho Santandar and Giminez on IR to come back.
senstrolltwo
ParticipantI notice there is Zero topics for Vegas Golden Knights ..the Marner excitement is crazy
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