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So very sad, I hope his family finds the strength to get through this forever
It’s very sad for his family, he’s got a bunch of kids and grandkids that he just left behind wondering why. It’s a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Seems like a cowardly and selfish decision probably not fully thought out. If he needed to kill himself, it’s never been easier in Canada so he just was thinking about himself and I just feel sorry for everybody he left behind.
I hope the can move Rielly to the San Jose and try to get the 2nd over all pick. Hey I’m not saying straigh for that pick. It would be a package deal of course.
Vancouver would great if the Leaf can pry Hronek from them for him as part of the deal.Absolutely no chance either event happens.
San Jose needs D for their rebuild, not another liability. There is no chance even a “package” with 2nd overall is included for Rielly. None.
Again, Vancouver is the worst team in the NHL in a full rebuild. Rielly sucks but he doesn’t want to play for a team that sucks. Nobody does. Again, no chance he goes to Vancouver or that Vancouver gives up their best D-man for him either.
These are both blue and white dreams.
He still controls where he goes with his NMC
by playing less, will decrease his value if he’s still on the team come next season.We have seen hundreds of NTC / NMC get waived. Yes, he controls where he lands. But the worse the Leafs get, the better many other alternatives seem.
Seattle makes a lot of sense in terms of a landing spot. Would happily take Vince Dunn in return or literally any 4th liner or mid round pick.
He’s played more than enough to show what he is and what he isn’t. Everybody knows what he’s worth and it’s next to nothing. As the cap goes up, his contract is less of an issue.
If none of the places Rielly wants to play want him then his value is already worthless. Playing him less probably increases his value because it gives him less time to show how garbage he is on defense and he isn’t a threat on the PP anymore either. The important part is to not give up anything to get rid of his contract. Either he sits and rots or he goes for something that isn’t a negative.
Rielly finally open to accepting a trade. Too little, too late but it better not cost the Leafs draft capital to trade him. Totally not worth it at this point. Just play him less.
He’s still an NHL defenseman. Many teams look at the mess of the Maple Leafs and think they can rehabilitate him. There will be teams that’ll try to lowball the Leafs. A small bidding war could occur. Teams like Vancouver, San Jose and possibly Edmonton may be interested. Some could be for players, others for prospects or draft picks. I could see him getting traded for a second rounder, or a trade like Darnell Nurse. He could also be part of a larger deal with a goaltender on the move. Maybe Rielly and Stolarz to Philly for the Leafs 1st rounder could be doable. Philly needs goaltending and defense, who knows? My best bet is San Jose, that’s on the cusp of being a playoff team and have no decent draft capital on defense in their system. My guess is San Jose drafts a defenseman at #2 but needs a stop gap until the prospect is NHL ready. Rielly fits the bill. The Patrick Marleau influence could be at play here, since he played with Rielly.
Rielly absolutely sucks. His contract only makes him significantly worse.
Teams won’t lowball the Leafs because they won’t be interested at all. There absolutely will never be a bidding war for Rielly. That’s just delusional.
A return that includes a pylon like Nurse is worthless to the Leafs. Absolutely no chance the Flyers give the Leafs a 1st for an often injured back-up and a pylon on D. Not happening.
Marleau has absolutely no influence on bringing in Rielly. San Jose’s problem is PREVENTING goals which Rielly is a net negative.
Rielly finally open to accepting a trade. Too little, too late but it better not cost the Leafs draft capital to trade him. Totally not worth it at this point. Just play him less.
What I’m hearing about Claude Lemieux… oh man
Carried the torch to killing himself. Really sad.
Mckenna would not be coming to the Leafs as a savoir, like in the past. they have AM, WN and Knies..also JT. as vets already in place. not many #1 picks get that.
Bedard is on an island, still . and hes about to get paid.Nylander was #8 pick, not the same. they could have taken ehlers, and he has all the same questions and critisims, now hes on a team going to the finals. the BS cant win with them nonsense…Leaf fans have seen it over and over
Any player drafted 1st overall by the Leafs will be viewed as the savior. It’s just how this retarded market works.
Also, Matthews only has 2 years left. McKenna isn’t good enough to change the position of the team to force Matthews to stay any longer than he already has. Nylander doesn’t move the needle either. In fact, if they draft McKenna, they’re better off trading Nylander because having two players with the same deficiencies only kills the Leafs in the playoffs. Tavares is a dinosaur, trash defensively, doesn’t win you a Cup either on his trajectory. And the defense is also ancient and trash. Unfixable via trade with no assets. UFAs have failed to fix that problem in the past and will continue to not be the solution currently either.
In no realistic scenario do the Leafs become an actual contender by adding McKenna. The belief that this core can win only delays the inevitable.
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Woll Rielly and NylanderEw, no. Nylander with 50% retained is worth more than that by himself.
most drafts do not have a generational talent. Mcdavid was the last one and he has yet to win a cup.
I think teams can still win a cup with non generational players. just a guessIt’s true, most drafts don’t which means when you have a draft that doesn’t, trading down can be advantageous because having multiple picks (especially when the Leafs have so few) is better.
Generational players almost always eventually win a Cup. That’s always Plan A. But the teams that win without one usually have a foundation of players that play a certain way in the playoffs. McKenna doesn’t fit that mold. Stenberg does.
The Leafs need to be drafting with the mindset of players that play correctly when it matters. They’ve gone down the road of “best player available” with clear defensive flaws (Nylander) and it hasn’t worked. Time to change the priorities.
also looks like he was made from the same mold as Keefe was a coach
digging into it a bit more, looks like it. Good underlying metrics with Edm.
spent the last year with Quenville, which will give some a boner.
Data minded coach, sounds like a fit for ChaykaHe’s only coached a full season in the NHL once and he had McDavid. McDavid wipes flaws from a team like no other. The Leafs don’t have a McDavid but they still have plenty of flaws.
Then got fired really fast the next year and the team was way better without him, going to the Cup Final twice. He also had Skinner at .914 SV% which is the only time that’s happened in Edmonton. That team he had was also a lot younger and a lot faster than the Leafs have to offer.
Woodcroft might be the perfect hire to watch this team completely fall apart and push it into a full rebuild mode.
What was the Leafs low ball offer to Marner?
Wasn’t it 14M over 8 years ….
yeah the taxes do suck here.They have been lowballing him since his first contract. Then the bullshit with Babcock. Then the bullshit narratives about his parents, being threatened, robbed and doxxed. Always fucking around with his value, maybe they expected him to take less because he was a hometown kid. But at the same time they always caved in to Nylander, Tavares and Matthews and giving them whatever the fuck they wanted in the end. The media (which they own) used him as a scapegoat for their own failures. The Leafs preferred the fans blame Marner rather than realize the franchise fucked up. If they had treated him with more respect and recognized his value to the franchise, he would have stayed for 14 AAV x 8. The most the Leafs ever offered was 12 AAV x 8 and yes that’s a low ball offer considering retarded Canadian taxes which makes that 12 AAV a lot less than the 12 AAV he got in Vegas.
If they signed him to 14 AAV x 8, it would have been a tight fit this year but they would have been fine for 2026/2027 as the cap went up big time. Matthews wouldn’t have fallen off a cliff, the Leafs PP would have been effective from the start of the season and they would have made the playoffs 3rd in the division, at worst as a Wild Card team. Instead, they became a lottery team.
Alexis Lafreniere was not as highly touted. Many believed that it was a poor draft year. Something like Rielly’s year. This draft seems to have 6 really good players at the top. 3 defensemen, 2 wingers and a center. The Leafs have an important couple of decisions to make. Keep the pick and hope for the best, or trade the pick and draft a defenseman and get another 1st rounder or equivalent in return. Vancouver, Chicago and Calgary seem to be the teams that want to play, so go see what each is willing to give up.
And this year is also a poor draft year in terms of not having a generational talent at #1. I think McKenna scores more than Lafreniere but all the same deficiencies exist. Small, winger, one-way player, no defense, not a franchise or generational talent. Like I said, if McKenna can score in the NHL, he’s another Nylander. We’ve already seen that movie and we see how it ends.
Hmm I said Hart was MVP of the series. You never mentioned game 4 in your reply. Just that Vegas outshot Colorado. A sane person would read that as you meaning the series. Keep on lying bro if that is what allows you to cope.
And against Utah he had some horrible games (four games with a SV% below .900) but Vegas (Marner) pulled together and still won the series. Because like a true winner, Vegas plays like a team.
Game 1 Marner created a beautiful goal for Dorofeyev on the PP and Howden gave Vegas a 3-0 early in the 3rd period. Barbashev and Eichel had great performances in Game 2. Vegas was down 3-0 after the 1st period when Hart allowed 3 goals. Who won them that game? Stone, Karlsson, Hertl and Marner sparked that comeback offensively. Kolesar from the 4th line tied the game. Hertl got the GWG despite playing like dogshit for the first two rounds. Game 4, Vegas held Colorado to 21 shots, gave them nothing on the PP when they were the most desperate.
Hart was very good in this series but Vegas played two perfect road games. They had an excellent PK and scored a lot of goals to bail him out in Game 3. Vegas is also 2nd in the playoffs in blocked shots. They’re doing absolutely everything in their power to help Hart. Marner deserves credit for having 3 points in 4 games, being an ice-time leader in all situations, playing excellent on the PK and doing all the little things right to help shut down MacKinnon (ZERO GOALS) who became a non-factor offensively despite being unstoppable all season long. It’s more than just the goalie.
The only cope here is you trying to come up with any bullshit excuse not to admit the Leafs fucked up when they pushed Marner out the door. Your excuse was that they played vs. shit teams. That exploded in your face when he helped sweep the best team in the NHL. You cried that Makar was hurt but ignored that Stone missed the first two games of the series. Funny how if Colorado doesn’t have Makar they become a shit team all of a sudden. Must be because he’s super important. Must also be why the Leafs turned into a shit team without Marner. Nah, you’re too retarded to be able to make that type of realization.
Andersen with another playoff shutout by the way. Oh wait, that doesn’t count because Montreal is shit and barely got any shots on net. But if Vegas does it, the goalie is the MVP. Pure retard logic flows through your brain dead head.
Your forgot one other very important thing in why Marner is having the success he is now in Vegas (that he didn’t in Toronto):
3. He is now on a team where he is not part of the leadership group, virtually unknown outside of the rink, & is not expected to be one of the core group who will live or die based on the team’s success. He sits behind Mark Stone, Shea Theadore, Jack Eichel, Karlsson, Hanifin in that regard. Let’s call a spade a spade – he was in that position in Toronto and he (and the rest of the core) couldn’t deliver full stop.
And you forgot the most important part; the Leafs can’t build a team. As soon as Marner left, the Leafs fell off a cliff and he went to the Cup Final.
Facts are facts.
