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I think the key here is the two years. Lyon also got two years and apparently wanted to come back.
I’ve seen a bit more of Lyon with him playing in the east. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Vladar play a game although some folks did talk him up as an option. Neither were in my top 3-4 choices. The lack of games per year looks like a sticking point. The guys I liked better have more more games in a season. I think the Flyers may need a guy who can go 50 games or more depending on Ersson.
– The only major addition is Zegras. Is the master plan they will hit a grand slam in 2026 free agency?
– Completely capped out. No playoffs for 5 years. Will be 6.
– Would have been better to not sign Dvorak and keep the extra space.
– York ext was good on flyers end. Though can’t see them being contenders within that 5 year window.
– Wonder what kind of extension they will end up giving Zegras and when. I ride it all year as do not see any hurry to go down that road.
– The only major addition is Zegras. Is the master plan they will hit a grand slam in 2026 free agency?
– Completely capped out. No playoffs for 5 years. Will be 6.
– Would have been better to not sign Dvorak and keep the extra space.
– York ext was good on flyers end. Though can’t see them being contenders within that 5 year window.
– Wonder what kind of extension they will end up giving Zegras and when. I ride it all year as do not see any hurry to go down that road.
Dvorak, on paper, looks like a good add. Enough offense and he can win face offs. He could be a 3rd line center if Cates flips to left wing. Hahahaha! Yes, the one year deal is inflated. They might have been able to get roughly the same for a lot less but Tocchet likes him. For a year, I’m OK with it. It doesn’t matter they’re up against the cap because they have $6-7M in dead space going away next year, which more than covers any Zegras increase and gives them $5.75M plus any cap increase for next year to add more UFAs. Clearly, a big part of any current plan is more comprehensive coaching and development. That isn’t counted against the cap. I still think they needed a big addition on D, but it didn’t happen. We’ll see how it goes.
– The only major addition is Zegras. Is the master plan they will hit a grand slam in 2026 free agency?
– Completely capped out. No playoffs for 5 years. Will be 6.
– Would have been better to not sign Dvorak and keep the extra space.
– York ext was good on flyers end. Though can’t see them being contenders within that 5 year window.
– Wonder what kind of extension they will end up giving Zegras and when. I ride it all year as do not see any hurry to go down that road.
Dvorak, on paper, looks like a good add. Enough offense and he can win face offs. He could be a 3rd line center if Cates flips to left wing. Hahahaha! Yes, the one year deal is inflated. They might have been able to get roughly the same for a lot less but Tocchet likes him. For a year, I’m OK with it. It doesn’t matter they’re up against the cap because they have $6-7M in dead space going away next year, which more than covers any Zegras increase and gives them $5.75M plus any cap increase for next year to add more UFAs. Clearly, a big part of any current plan is more comprehensive coaching and development. That isn’t counted against the cap. I still think they needed a big addition on D, but it didn’t happen. We’ll see how it goes.
Dvorak is a meaningless add to me. Doesn’t do anything to move the team forward. Wasn’t needed.
Cap space does matter. Limits what you can do all year. Maybe a player falls out of favor or vice versa. Can use it to be a middle man. Never know when a deal may pop up. Someone unexpected goes on waivers. Limits what you can do at the deadline
Dvorak is a meaningless add to me. Doesn’t do anything to move the team forward. Wasn’t needed.
Cap space does matter. Limits what you can do all year. Maybe a player falls out of favor or vice versa. Can use it to be a middle man. Never know when a deal may pop up. Someone unexpected goes on waivers. Limits what you can do at the deadline
They still have wiggle room with the cap. They can waive guys on minimum+ deals and replace them with minimum contract guys. It’s not a lot but there’s some flexibility. Not sure what impact player is going to fall into anybody’s lap this year and the Flyers won’t be buyers at the deadline. Dvorak does fill a need, expensively and short term sure, but he fills it. Was I disappointed with the goalie and defense need fills? Sure, but how much turnover can any team really do in one off season? Maybe a third of the team, 6 or 7 guys, tops? The Flyers might have four. Let’s see what happens but it’s still three months off.
Cap space matters but I can see the Flyers getting a 3rd round pick for Dvorak at the deadline if they don’t eat any cap for the rest of the season, maybe a conditional 2nd from a bona fide contender (AKA a late second-rounder) that is willing to overpay to take a run at the Cup. Big centers who can score a few goals in the playoffs and also kill penalties tend to draw overpayments as rentals.
Cap space matters but I can see the Flyers getting a 3rd round pick for Dvorak at the deadline if they don’t eat any cap for the rest of the season, maybe a conditional 2nd from a bona fide contender (AKA a late second-rounder) that is willing to overpay to take a run at the Cup. Big centers who can score a few goals in the playoffs and also kill penalties tend to draw overpayments as rentals.
Exactly. Maybe a 2nd if he has a good year. He does the kinds of things that help teams win. I did think adding Dvorak to solve this need was a bit of overkill compared to the underwhelming adds in goal and on D. I’m curious how it will fit together and am looking forward to the season.
Cap space matters but I can see the Flyers getting a 3rd round pick for Dvorak at the deadline if they don’t eat any cap for the rest of the season, maybe a conditional 2nd from a bona fide contender (AKA a late second-rounder) that is willing to overpay to take a run at the Cup. Big centers who can score a few goals in the playoffs and also kill penalties tend to draw overpayments as rentals.
Better chance they re-sign him if he has a good year ….
Cap space matters but I can see the Flyers getting a 3rd round pick for Dvorak at the deadline if they don’t eat any cap for the rest of the season, maybe a conditional 2nd from a bona fide contender (AKA a late second-rounder) that is willing to overpay to take a run at the Cup. Big centers who can score a few goals in the playoffs and also kill penalties tend to draw overpayments as rentals.
Exactly. Maybe a 2nd if he has a good year. He does the kinds of things that help teams win. I did think adding Dvorak to solve this need was a bit of overkill compared to the underwhelming adds in goal and on D. I’m curious how it will fit together and am looking forward to the season.
He hasnt helped teams wins based on his high total of playoff games …
Maybe they use him on wing and take face offs
Dvorak- Zegras- mmMaybe they use him on wing and take face offs
Dvorak- Zegras- mmHahahaha! Exactly! Seriously though, there will be instances of Couturier and Dvorak both being on the ice for defensive zone draws late in games where the Flyers are up. I think the better Dvorak plays, the more likely he’ll be traded if the Flyers fall out of any race by the deadline. That’s all speculation now. We need to think about more pressing matters like who claims Brink when the Flyers waive him.
The likeliest scenario is that Tocchet will do a lot of experimentation in training camp and early in the regular season. Zegras may primarily play center but he may also periodically take shifts on wing. Ditto Cates for different reasons.
Zegras gets every shot at center. Cates could fill the Jochen Hecht/Ville Leino role on left wing the way those guys did for Briere when he was creating offense down near the goal line. Third man stays high. That’s Cates. Getting to suddenly play on a line with guys like Zegras and Michkov and jack his own scoring numbers will ease any pain. Cates and Dvorak are both too good to not be Top 9 guys on this team.
The likeliest scenario is that Tocchet will do a lot of experimentation in training camp and early in the regular season. Zegras may primarily play center but he may also periodically take shifts on wing. Ditto Cates for different reasons.
Zegras gets every shot at center. Cates could fill the Jochen Hecht/Ville Leino role on left wing the way those guys did for Briere when he was creating offense down near the goal line. Third man stays high. That’s Cates. Getting to suddenly play on a line with guys like Zegras and Michkov and jack his own scoring numbers will ease any pain. Cates and Dvorak are both too good to not be Top 9 guys on this team.
I could also see Dvorak ending up on Zegras’ wing with Michkov. Taking all the faceoffs but allowing Zegras to “play the position”. Its good to have options.
The likeliest scenario is that Tocchet will do a lot of experimentation in training camp and early in the regular season. Zegras may primarily play center but he may also periodically take shifts on wing. Ditto Cates for different reasons.
Zegras gets every shot at center. Cates could fill the Jochen Hecht/Ville Leino role on left wing the way those guys did for Briere when he was creating offense down near the goal line. Third man stays high. That’s Cates. Getting to suddenly play on a line with guys like Zegras and Michkov and jack his own scoring numbers will ease any pain. Cates and Dvorak are both too good to not be Top 9 guys on this team.
I could also see Dvorak ending up on Zegras’ wing with Michkov. Taking all the faceoffs but allowing Zegras to “play the position”. Its good to have options.
Mentioned that above. Though id Zegras is a long term fit at center he will need to improve and take those face offs.
This would be a good time to allow him to learn on the job as the flyers are not going anywhere. Can’t get frustrated as jsut let him play. Will the coach do that?
Mentioned that above. Though id Zegras is a long term fit at center he will need to improve and take those face offs.
That can be developed but Dvorak and Couturier are both really good on the draw right now. Cates is sub-.500 at the dot too. I’ve been suggesting a Cates flip to wing was in the offing since before Dvorak was signed. It’s pretty obvious the path the Flyers are following and, in general, it’s the correct one based on their current composition. You want a reasonably accurate prediction for what the Flyers are going to do, just ask.
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