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I do not prfer either. Torts was a terrible hire. They both are extremely underwhelming. Rather kept Shaw for a 2 year stop gap.
He has a losing coaching record does he not?
Wonder why no top end teams have ever hired tocchet. He offers next to nothing. Coaches loser teams from loser organizations
He had a .608 win percentage in Vancouver. He actually got Phoenix to the playoffs. I know that doesn’t satisfy your lofty standards.
His career is underwhelming. Below .500z Accept it slap nuts.
How did last season go in Vancouver?
His career is underwhelming. Below .500z Accept it slap nuts.
How did last season go in Vancouver?
You’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own math. He’s .516 with two less than optimum opportunities out of three. How did last season go in Philadelphia with Torts? Which genius coach should the Flyers have replaced Torts with?
His career is underwhelming. Below .500z Accept it slap nuts.
How did last season go in Vancouver?
You’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own math. He’s .516 with two less than optimum opportunities out of three. How did last season go in Philadelphia with Torts? Which genius coach should the Flyers have replaced Torts with?
Why he did have 2 less than optimum opportunities? Why hasn’t a good organization ever hired him ? Remove the shootout wins.
Do you think the flyers are an optimum opportunity? So make that 3 of 4 slappy.
Already told u what I would have done. Would also have taken a chance on an outside the box hire; not another proven loser retread. It’s awesome seeing the flyers trip over themselves. Another big culture win year coming up
You swallow everting the flyers put out. Wipe your chin.
Why he did have 2 less than optimum opportunities? Why hasn’t a good organization ever hired him ?
Do you think the flyers are an optimum opportunity? So make that 3 of 4 slappy.
Already told u what I would have done. Would also have taken a chance on an outside the box hire; not another proven loser retread. It’s awesome seeing the flyers trip over themselves. Another big culture win year coming up
You swallow everting the flyers put out. Wipe your chin.
Tocchet liked the opportunity better than his other offers. They wanted him back in VAN. But, of course, you know more about hockey than Tocchet, so I’ll defer to you. Hahahaha! Bottom line: You can’t even read a winning percentage stat. I’ve gone back and forth with you a couple months now and see no evidence you have any idea what you’re talking about when it comes to hockey. You just regurgitate every misguided hockey cliche you’ve heard over the last several years. Monkey hear, monkey repeat.
Why he did have 2 less than optimum opportunities? Why hasn’t a good organization ever hired him ?
Do you think the flyers are an optimum opportunity? So make that 3 of 4 slappy.
Already told u what I would have done. Would also have taken a chance on an outside the box hire; not another proven loser retread. It’s awesome seeing the flyers trip over themselves. Another big culture win year coming up
You swallow everting the flyers put out. Wipe your chin.
Tocchet liked the opportunity better than his other offers. They wanted him back in VAN. But, of course, you know more about hockey than Tocchet, so I’ll defer to you. Hahahaha! Bottom line: You can’t even read a winning percentage stat. I’ve gone back and forth with you a couple months now and see no evidence you have any idea what you’re talking about when it comes to hockey. You just regurgitate every misguided hockey cliche you’ve heard over the last several years. Monkey hear, monkey repeat.
He liked the 25 plus million that no other team even came close to offering you fn dope. Then a job for life.
What’s that old saying. I have forgotten more about hockey this you will ever know. Funny how you rarely answer any questions thrown your way.
Enjoy sucking the flyers cock. Your like that chic who will continue to do it no matter what when called upon
Why he did have 2 less than optimum opportunities? Why hasn’t a good organization ever hired him ?
Do you think the flyers are an optimum opportunity? So make that 3 of 4 slappy.
Already told u what I would have done. Would also have taken a chance on an outside the box hire; not another proven loser retread. It’s awesome seeing the flyers trip over themselves. Another big culture win year coming up
You swallow everting the flyers put out. Wipe your chin.
Tocchet liked the opportunity better than his other offers. They wanted him back in VAN. But, of course, you know more about hockey than Tocchet, so I’ll defer to you. Hahahaha! Bottom line: You can’t even read a winning percentage stat. I’ve gone back and forth with you a couple months now and see no evidence you have any idea what you’re talking about when it comes to hockey. You just regurgitate every misguided hockey cliche you’ve heard over the last several years. Monkey hear, monkey repeat.
no you cant as you don’t even know what stat your posting fucking dope.
He liked the 25 plus million that no other team even came close to offering you fn dope. Then a job for life.
What’s that old saying. I have forgotten more about hockey this you will ever know. Funny how you rarely answer any questions thrown your way.
Enjoy sucking the flyers cock. Your like that chic who will continue to do it no matter what when called upon
Hahaha! It’s not even three in the afternoon and you’re drunk already. Get back to me when you have legitimate questions and you’ve sobered up you rude punk. No, “Do you think X is a needle mover?” is not a legitimate question. It’s a question a superficial idiot asks.
Then, we have the actual facts of the matter. If you care more about results than intent, let’s just say Tocchet’s résumé isn’t as colorful.
Despite being an NHL head coach for nine seasons, Tocchet has only appeared in the playoffs twice, with just one series victory to his name (excluding the 2020 Qualifying Round). He might’ve won the Jack Adams Award in 2023–24, but he’s suffered the same fate behind the bench that the Flyers have as a team over the past decade-plus— being stuck in the murky middle.
Furthermore, most of the league’s bench bosses have had a tremendous single-season success as a head coach at some level. Whether it be in juniors, college, or a professional league, most of these guys have led a team the distance, or close to it. However, that’s not the case for Tocchet—it makes him an outlier. He won back-to-back Stanley Cups as a n assistant with the Pittsburgh Penguins, but that’s just not the same.
Tocchet’s teams haven’t been statistically dominant under the hood, either. He’s taken on tough jobs with the aforementioned Canucks, Arizona Coyotes, and Tampa Bay Lightning, but the Flyers won’t be much easier, will they?
At this stage, fans are left hoping Tocchet is the guy. There’s no hard evidence to say he is.
Remember how hard the Flyers/Comcast media pushed Torts “fictional” accountability and being “hard to play against” (old time Flyers hockey!). Get ready for the same, the savior has arrived, media push. Pushing Tocchet’s openness and accessibility just as hard as they promoted Torts combativeness and disregard for modern hockey with the same level of realistic analysis, none. Remember how much we were told the players loved Torts and to not look behind the curtain. Tocchet’s going to be promoted as the Dali Lama.
They have a product to sell, it’s entertainment to make money, hockey is what happens during the commercials.
“Remember how hard the Flyers/Comcast media pushed Torts “fictional” accountability and being “hard to play against” (old time Flyers hockey!). Get ready for the same, the savior has arrived, media push. Pushing Tocchet’s openness and accessibility just as hard as they promoted Torts combativeness and disregard for modern hockey with the same level of realistic analysis, none. Remember how much we were told the players loved Torts and to not look behind the curtain. Tocchet’s going to be promoted as the Dali Lama. They have a product to sell, it’s entertainment to make money, hockey is what happens during the commercials.”
I stopped following the Flyers Torts’ first two seasons. The franchise was clearly in the toilet. He kept the doors open, I suppose. That’s the best I can say about him. Watched last year and the team was still bad in most respects but there were players who showed something and I like the off season changes. Maybe if you had taken time away from the Flyers at their truly incompetent bottom, you wouldn’t be so bitter, angry and irrational. Pro tip: Zegras is going to deliver the goods and his presence in the Top 6 is going to help every line.
“Remember how hard the Flyers/Comcast media pushed Torts “fictional” accountability and being “hard to play against” (old time Flyers hockey!). Get ready for the same, the savior has arrived, media push. Pushing Tocchet’s openness and accessibility just as hard as they promoted Torts combativeness and disregard for modern hockey with the same level of realistic analysis, none. Remember how much we were told the players loved Torts and to not look behind the curtain. Tocchet’s going to be promoted as the Dali Lama. They have a product to sell, it’s entertainment to make money, hockey is what happens during the commercials.”
I stopped following the Flyers Torts’ first two seasons. The franchise was clearly in the toilet. He kept the doors open, I suppose. That’s the best I can say about him. Watched last year and the team was still bad in most respects but there were players who showed something and I like the off season changes. Maybe if you had taken time away from the Flyers at their truly incompetent bottom, you wouldn’t be so bitter, angry and irrational. Pro tip: Zegras is going to deliver the goods and his presence in the Top 6 is going to help every line.
Pretty sure that was last year.
Coming off of 3 straight last place finishes in the PP (in the NHL record books).
Started the season shorthanded on defense due to dB/Torts refusal to call anyone up.
Everything related to Jett making/playing with the big club including the embarrassing 4 games he played out of 10 before getting sent down.
Record number of line shuffling at the beginning of the season that became an internet meme.
Torts crossing the line with York
DB supporting Torts by suspending York for Torts being out of line
The team quitting on Torts for the 2nd season in a row
Torts publicly trashing the team
DB publicly stating he wanted Torts back anyway (despite the team quitting on torts and torts quitting on the team).
Flyers ranking close to the bottom in just about every major metric.
DB’s big “get” Fedotov who he gave a 2 year way above market contract to, proving he belongs in the AHL, not the NHL.
No accountability for anyone in the FO or coaching staff until Torts forced the issue
Rocky Thompson
Player regression
Despite multiple 1st rnd draft picks and the horrible horrible season, not coming away from the draft with the top 3 pick.
National media stating the Tocchet hire is more wishful thinking than proven track record.That was last year and that’s just off the top of my head but they showed you something? I have a solid foundation and facts behind my opinions, yours tend to mostly be wishful thinking. You discount anything that disagrees with your preferred opinion.
How was that not rock bottom? Even DB who was the proud papa said it was rock bottom.“Remember how hard the Flyers/Comcast media pushed Torts “fictional” accountability and being “hard to play against” (old time Flyers hockey!). Get ready for the same, the savior has arrived, media push. Pushing Tocchet’s openness and accessibility just as hard as they promoted Torts combativeness and disregard for modern hockey with the same level of realistic analysis, none. Remember how much we were told the players loved Torts and to not look behind the curtain. Tocchet’s going to be promoted as the Dali Lama. They have a product to sell, it’s entertainment to make money, hockey is what happens during the commercials.”
I stopped following the Flyers Torts’ first two seasons. The franchise was clearly in the toilet. He kept the doors open, I suppose. That’s the best I can say about him. Watched last year and the team was still bad in most respects but there were players who showed something and I like the off season changes. Maybe if you had taken time away from the Flyers at their truly incompetent bottom, you wouldn’t be so bitter, angry and irrational. Pro tip: Zegras is going to deliver the goods and his presence in the Top 6 is going to help every line.
love JD
That was last year and that’s just off the top of my head but they showed you something?
Most of the forwards looked good to me and Sanheim, Risto and Seeler filled their roles well. Which forwards and Dmen looked especially bad to you?
That was last year and that’s just off the top of my head but they showed you something?
Most of the forwards looked good to me and Sanheim, Risto and Seeler filled their roles well. Which forwards and Dmen looked especially bad to you?
I listed 16 horrible facts from last season. None of which is in dispute including the general consensus that Tocchet’s hiring is more wishful thinking by the Flyers and that’s all you got out of it?
This is an unserious franchise that hired unserious people to run it. The incompetence is being rebranded as an intentional plan. Get those butts in the seats.
The Flyers defensively, as a team, were ranked 29th overall. Scoring 24th overall. Puck possession in the toilet. The team quit on the coach. The coach quit on the team. The worst PP coach in the entire league was untouchable for years. The only way things would’ve been worse is if the Flyers didn’t walk away from it with a cornerstone #1C or #D for the future. Oh wait, they didn’t.
The Flyers had very little money in the offseason and DB still spent it. Can’t wait until the checkbook is more open next year.
Am i wrong on any of this?
Did 1 or 2 players not look quite as bad as some of the others, who gives a crap? Historically speaking, can you name a worse GM and/or coaching year?
I listed 16 horrible facts from last season. None of which is in dispute including the general consensus that Tocchet’s hiring is more wishful thinking by the Flyers and that’s all you got out of it?
Five of your horrible facts mention Torts specifically and a lot of the rest were a direct result of HIS tenure. THIS JUST IN: Torts is gone. How can anyone in their right mind claim Tocchet isn’t an upgrade over Torts? And I don’t care that Torts won a cup in 2004. A general consensus over what they think will happen and not what actually will happen? That’s all you got. Last season was last season. Even I’m saying Drysdale needs to clean it up on D or hope he can hold onto a 3rd pairing role and Brink will be pushed out by somebody bigger sooner rather than later. Do you disagree with that in terms of this coming season? Who else is the problem?
I listed 16 horrible facts from last season. None of which is in dispute including the general consensus that Tocchet’s hiring is more wishful thinking by the Flyers and that’s all you got out of it?
Five of your horrible facts mention Torts specifically and a lot of the rest were a direct result of HIS tenure. THIS JUST IN: Torts is gone. How can anyone in their right mind claim Tocchet isn’t an upgrade over Torts? And I don’t care that Torts won a cup in 2004. A general consensus over what they think will happen and not what actually will happen? That’s all you got. Last season was last season. Even I’m saying Drysdale needs to clean it up on D or hope he can hold onto a 3rd pairing role and Brink will be pushed out by somebody bigger sooner rather than later. Do you disagree with that in terms of this coming season? Who else is the problem?
Upgrade in coaching. Upgrade in goal. Upgrades at center. No doubt 100% they can go form 4th worse to 7th worse. That is progress.
Go flyers. Go new era of orange part duex.
brink or any player needs to be pushed out by someone more talented. not someone just bigger.
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