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I listed 16 horrible facts from last season. None of which is in dispute including the general consensus that Tocchet’s hiring is more wishful thinking by the Flyers and that’s all you got out of it?
Five of your horrible facts mention Torts specifically and a lot of the rest were a direct result of HIS tenure. THIS JUST IN: Torts is gone. How can anyone in their right mind claim Tocchet isn’t an upgrade over Torts? And I don’t care that Torts won a cup in 2004. A general consensus over what they think will happen and not what actually will happen? That’s all you got. Last season was last season. Even I’m saying Drysdale needs to clean it up on D or hope he can hold onto a 3rd pairing role and Brink will be pushed out by somebody bigger sooner rather than later. Do you disagree with that in terms of this coming season? Who else is the problem?
Does it bother you at all that despite all the “Torts facts”, DB said that he still preferred to bring Torts back if there had been any way possible and remains a strong Torts supporter through everything? This is not a franchise that’s learned one thing from it’s past mistakes.
I think Tocchet is an upgrade over Torts, I think roadkill is an upgrade over Torts so low bar. I doubt anyone would disagree with that but does he move the needle? I’m having trouble finding anyone who believes Tocchet moves the needle based on his track record.
Informed opinions are all any of us have, using all available information. Do I necessarily disagree with your evaluations of the individual players above? No, they seem reasonable but it’s also not seeing the forest for the trees. The Flyers can add more depth players until the cows come home and continue to turn over the bottom of the roster, it won’t change a thing with this franchise. The Flyers love “born to be a flyer” and quantity over quality. It’s easy mode for them.
Still no cornerstone players. A true franchise center affects the entire team, allowing every other center to slot further down the lineup, putting them in better situations, improving every line despite only being one player.. The same with the #1 defenseman. That’s why they are so valuable. That’s why the Flyers are overwhelmed, they have players that are being asked to be to much.
DB said that he still preferred to bring Torts back if there had been any way possible and remains a strong Torts supporter through everything? This is not a franchise that’s learned one thing from it’s past mistakes. I think Tocchet is an upgrade over Torts, I think roadkill is an upgrade over Torts so low bar. I doubt anyone would disagree with that but does he move the needle? I’m having trouble finding anyone who believes Tocchet moves the needle based on his track record.
So DB said some nice things about Torts on the way out? So what? Torts is not the coach any more. Again with the needle moving. More specifics please. This team is good for an extra 15 points this year. Roadkill Rick Tocchet will see to that. How is that a problem? How many points does a team need to improve to move their needle? What’s more important: Needle moving or difference making?
So DB said some nice things about Torts on the way out? So what? Torts is not the coach any more. Again with the needle moving. More specifics please. This team is good for an extra 15 points this year. Roadkill Rick Tocchet will see to that. How is that a problem? How many points does a team need to improve to move their needle? What’s more important: Needle moving or difference making?
Never said Tocchet was roadkill, I compared roadkill as an improvement to what Torts was doing. 15 points takes the Flyers from last in the division to making the playoffs (using last year’s numbers). Are you predicting the Flyers make the playoffs? That would also be more points than Vancouver had last year, do you view the Flyers as having a better roster than Vancouver?
I posted an article earlier which talked about Tocchet’s coaching history and reasons for concern which came to the conclusion that Tocchet being the catalyst you want him to be is more wishful thinking than proven track record. You never really addressed the points made in that article. Until you do, it sounds more like you want to believe rather than having an actual reason to believe.
Maybe he’ll prove everyone wrong and again he can’t do any worse than the last guy. He’s supposed to be a great communicator with the players which is a world of difference from the coach who would bench the captain of the team without telling him why.
Never said Tocchet was roadkill, I compared roadkill as an improvement to what Torts was doing. 15 points takes the Flyers from last in the division to making the playoffs (using last year’s numbers). Are you predicting the Flyers make the playoffs? That would also be more points than Vancouver had last year, do you view the Flyers as having a better roster than Vancouver?
I posted an article earlier which talked about Tocchet’s coaching history and reasons for concern which came to the conclusion that Tocchet being the catalyst you want him to be is more wishful thinking than proven track record. You never really addressed the points made in that article. Until you do, it sounds more like you want to believe rather than having an actual reason to believe.
Maybe he’ll prove everyone wrong and again he can’t do any worse than the last guy. He’s supposed to be a great communicator with the players which is a world of difference from the coach who would bench the captain of the team without telling him why.
I’m predicting the Flyers will be noticeably better this year. Individually and as a team. There were teams out west that were more than a level below the Flyers last year. Starting to hear a bit how truly awful things were in ANA, even though they had 4 more points, for example. That makes things a little difficult to compare points over conferences. Everybody out west feasted on NSH, SJ and CHI. 91 points wouldn’t have gotten you into the playoffs out west and it was a fluke it did in the east. Vancouver has way better goaltending! Lankinen or Demko, if healthy, are both better than anything the Flyers have. Ideally, Vladar is our Lankinen.
“Everyone” is not pessimistic about the job Tocchet will do. Zegras wins them a couple or more games. Vladar over the two Russian catastrophes wins them a couple or more games. Tocchet’s coaching wins them a couple or more games. Five points for each upgrade gets them a 15 point increase.
Never said Tocchet was roadkill, I compared roadkill as an improvement to what Torts was doing. 15 points takes the Flyers from last in the division to making the playoffs (using last year’s numbers). Are you predicting the Flyers make the playoffs? That would also be more points than Vancouver had last year, do you view the Flyers as having a better roster than Vancouver?
I posted an article earlier which talked about Tocchet’s coaching history and reasons for concern which came to the conclusion that Tocchet being the catalyst you want him to be is more wishful thinking than proven track record. You never really addressed the points made in that article. Until you do, it sounds more like you want to believe rather than having an actual reason to believe.
Maybe he’ll prove everyone wrong and again he can’t do any worse than the last guy. He’s supposed to be a great communicator with the players which is a world of difference from the coach who would bench the captain of the team without telling him why.
I love that the Flyers are at the point where every roster, coaching, and front office move suddenly fits this description.
I love that the Flyers are at the point where every roster, coaching, and front office move suddenly fits this description.
The living embodiment of the “hold my beer” meme?
I’m predicting the Flyers will be noticeably better this year. Individually and as a team. There were teams out west that were more than a level below the Flyers last year. Starting to hear a bit how truly awful things were in ANA, even though they had 4 more points, for example. That makes things a little difficult to compare points over conferences. Everybody out west feasted on NSH, SJ and CHI. 91 points wouldn’t have gotten you into the playoffs out west and it was a fluke it did in the east. Vancouver has way better goaltending! Lankinen or Demko, if healthy, are both better than anything the Flyers have. Ideally, Vladar is our Lankinen.
“Everyone” is not pessimistic about the job Tocchet will do. Zegras wins them a couple or more games. Vladar over the two Russian catastrophes wins them a couple or more games. Tocchet’s coaching wins them a couple or more games. Five points for each upgrade gets them a 15 point increase.
Who isn’t pessimistic that Tocchet can lead them to the promised land that isn’t part of the Comcast family? Regardless, at least you are giving a reason behind your optimism. Personally i think more than Torts but not the bump you envision which will, once again, leave them in no mans land without a path forward to get those cornerstones they need. We shall see how the games play out.
Never said Tocchet was roadkill, I compared roadkill as an improvement to what Torts was doing. 15 points takes the Flyers from last in the division to making the playoffs (using last year’s numbers). Are you predicting the Flyers make the playoffs? That would also be more points than Vancouver had last year, do you view the Flyers as having a better roster than Vancouver?
I posted an article earlier which talked about Tocchet’s coaching history and reasons for concern which came to the conclusion that Tocchet being the catalyst you want him to be is more wishful thinking than proven track record. You never really addressed the points made in that article. Until you do, it sounds more like you want to believe rather than having an actual reason to believe.
Maybe he’ll prove everyone wrong and again he can’t do any worse than the last guy. He’s supposed to be a great communicator with the players which is a world of difference from the coach who would bench the captain of the team without telling him why.
I’m predicting the Flyers will be noticeably better this year. Individually and as a team. There were teams out west that were more than a level below the Flyers last year. Starting to hear a bit how truly awful things were in ANA, even though they had 4 more points, for example. That makes things a little difficult to compare points over conferences. Everybody out west feasted on NSH, SJ and CHI. 91 points wouldn’t have gotten you into the playoffs out west and it was a fluke it did in the east. Vancouver has way better goaltending! Lankinen or Demko, if healthy, are both better than anything the Flyers have. Ideally, Vladar is our Lankinen.
“Everyone” is not pessimistic about the job Tocchet will do. Zegras wins them a couple or more games. Vladar over the two Russian catastrophes wins them a couple or more games. Tocchet’s coaching wins them a couple or more games. Five points for each upgrade gets them a 15 point increase.
Does having Juulson (less irreplaceable RR) in your top 6 to start the year lose you any games?
Does having a new coach/staff in the beginning of the season and learning his “system” lose you any games?
Does having Juulson (less irreplaceable RR) in your top 6 to start the year lose you any games?
Does having a new coach/staff in the beginning of the season and learning his “system” lose you any games?
Top 6? VAN fans gave him pretty good reviews as a depth straight up defensive Dman. Pressing him higher than that could expose him. That was the word. The D is the area where they need to add, no doubt about that. The D zone system is essentially a penalty kill with a 3rd forward playing inside the box to take away passing lanes and jump in to provide puck support and an outlet if the Flyers pull the puck along the boards or perimeter. FLA executes this system with tremendous precision. Their puck support is elite. This shouldn’t be difficult to pick up for a competent NHL player. Of course, I’m not suggesting they’ll play it better than FLA, I’m saying it will be an upgrade worth two or more games over what Tortorella was running out there . . . with intermittent at best puck support.
Does having Juulson (less irreplaceable RR) in your top 6 to start the year lose you any games?
Does having a new coach/staff in the beginning of the season and learning his “system” lose you any games?
Top 6? VAN fans gave him pretty good reviews as a depth straight up defensive Dman. Pressing him higher than that could expose him. That was the word. The D is the area where they need to add, no doubt about that. The D zone system is essentially a penalty kill with a 3rd forward playing inside the box to take away passing lanes and jump in to provide puck support and an outlet if the Flyers pull the puck along the boards or perimeter. FLA executes this system with tremendous precision. Their puck support is elite. This shouldn’t be difficult to pick up for a competent NHL player. Of course, I’m not suggesting they’ll play it better than FLA, I’m saying it will be an upgrade worth two or more games over what Tortorella was running out there . . . with intermittent at best puck support.
your answer is no; those 2 scenarios won’t lose them any games. got it.
– There’s no denying the impact Rick Tocchet will have on the 2025–26 Flyers. His arrival marks a new era for a franchise that has spent the last few seasons searching for stability, identity, and a consistent path forward.
– But make no mistake: this wasn’t a “feel-good” hire. It was a calculated decision to bring in someone who can reconnect the Flyers with their identity while pushing the team back toward playoff contention.
– There’s no denying the impact Rick Tocchet will have on the 2025–26 Flyers. His arrival marks a new era for a franchise that has spent the last few seasons searching for stability, identity, and a consistent path forward.
– But make no mistake: this wasn’t a “feel-good” hire. It was a calculated decision to bring in someone who can reconnect the Flyers with their identity while pushing the team back toward playoff contention.
Hahahahaha. The NEW new era of orange. Wasn’t Torts the guy bringing stability, reconnecting the Flyers with their identity, and leading them into the future?
::facepalm::
I would like to see Tocchet succeed but PR diarrhea like this just poisons the well. He was the feel good ex-Flyer hire that they can market the shit out of for aging fanbase who long for the good old days.
– There’s no denying the impact Rick Tocchet will have on the 2025–26 Flyers. His arrival marks a new era for a franchise that has spent the last few seasons searching for stability, identity, and a consistent path forward.
– But make no mistake: this wasn’t a “feel-good” hire. It was a calculated decision to bring in someone who can reconnect the Flyers with their identity while pushing the team back toward playoff contention.
Hahahahaha. The NEW new era of orange. Wasn’t Torts the guy bringing stability, reconnecting the Flyers with their identity, and leading them into the future?
::facepalm::
I would like to see Tocchet succeed but PR diarrhea like this just poisons the well. He was the feel good ex-Flyer hire that they can market the shit out of for aging fanbase who long for the good old days.
culture, identity, and all the stuff that wins cups.
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