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Zeev Buium drafted #2 in the Athletic 2024 NHL redraft. Luchanko drafted at 30. Berglund 31
The pundits, on the whole, have been a bit higher on Buium than NHL scouts. DOesn’t make the pundits wrong. It’s just something to track.
The pundits, on the whole, have been a bit higher on Buium than NHL scouts. DOesn’t make the pundits wrong. It’s just something to track.
Any insight on what those differences may be? I would be interested to know where the scouts and pundits diverge on what kind of player he will be.
The pundits, on the whole, have been a bit higher on Buium than NHL scouts. DOesn’t make the pundits wrong. It’s just something to track.
Any insight on what those differences may be? I would be interested to know where the scouts and pundits diverge on what kind of player he will be.
Smallish to average-size defensemen are back out of vogue unless they are of Quinn Hughes or Adam Fox type caliber offensively. Scouts do like Buium but they don’t think of that caliber offensively nor is he viewed as a great defender(decent enough not to hurt you, though). They see him more as a Number 3/4 type in the current league: still an NHLer by any measure but not a star. That’s why he was “only” the sixth defenseman drafted.
But…
1) It was a very blueliner heavy 1st round last year (whereas 2025 was center-heavy up top)
2) He’s still viewed as a good future NHL
3) The scouts aren’t always right, and the pundits aren’t always wrongSmallish to average-size defensemen are back out of vogue unless they are of Quinn Hughes or Adam Fox type caliber offensively. Scouts do like Buium but they don’t think of that caliber offensively nor is he viewed as a great defender(decent enough not to hurt you, though). They see him more as a Number 3/4 type in the current league: still an NHLer by any measure but not a star. That’s why he was “only” the sixth defenseman drafted.
But…
1) It was a very blueliner heavy 1st round last year (whereas 2025 was center-heavy up top)
2) He’s still viewed as a good future NHL
3) The scouts aren’t always right, and the pundits aren’t always wrongBut if he was 6’4″ (instead of 6′) do they think he’d be a #1 dman? Recency bias i guess with FLA winning.
2 year sample size for each in college.
Quinn in Mich .. 32 games, 5 goals, 28 assists and 37 games 5 goals, 24 assists
Zeev in Denver .. 42 games, 11 goals, 39 assists and 41 games, 13 goals, 35 assists.
Makar in UMass .. 32 games, 5 goals, 16 assists and 41 games, 16 goals, 33 assists.I know it’s not your personal opinion but I would like to know what the scouts see that i do not? We shall see over the next few seasons who is right but it’s not like anyone is going to call out unnamed scouts if they are wrong.
I would love to know where the scouts, who have concerns, would put him in a redraft.
Zeev Buium drafted #2 in the Athletic 2024 NHL redraft. Luchanko drafted at 30. Berglund 31
Zeev listed as 8th best player/prospect under 23 (and as mentioned above 2nd best from his draft). Our lord and savior at center Jett? Better luck next year.
I know Bill said that the Flyers don’t care about justifying the Jett pick but evidence over the last year says otherwise. From DB’s statement that Zeev was to small to draft because they had Andrae (hahahahahaha) to the circus which resulted in Jett and the Flyers getting embarrassed during the early part of the season last year.
How much of this will they pin on Torts? Who knows? We do know that torts was absolute crap at evaluating players and coaching in general at this point in his career and he pretty much got whoever he wanted.
I think once again the bar will be low for Jett to make the team, partially because of how they have built him up even though he didn’t have a great year in juniors. It’s not really fair to the kid but the Flyers are not a competent franchise. He does everything the right (Flyers) way and they want to market that. Justify the reach. Especially, imo, with Zeev debuting this year.
As other posters have mentioned the right choice, if had been available, is probably the AHL. Since it’s not, you can reliably assume they will make the choice that is in their own self interest in the short term.
Smallish to average-size defensemen are back out of vogue unless they are of Quinn Hughes or Adam Fox type caliber offensively. Scouts do like Buium but they don’t think of that caliber offensively nor is he viewed as a great defender(decent enough not to hurt you, though). They see him more as a Number 3/4 type in the current league: still an NHLer by any measure but not a star. That’s why he was “only” the sixth defenseman drafted.
Exactly. How many teams damaged themselves trying to force the next Erik Karlsson into their lineup?
Smallish to average-size defensemen are back out of vogue unless they are of Quinn Hughes or Adam Fox type caliber offensively. Scouts do like Buium but they don’t think of that caliber offensively nor is he viewed as a great defender(decent enough not to hurt you, though). They see him more as a Number 3/4 type in the current league: still an NHLer by any measure but not a star. That’s why he was “only” the sixth defenseman drafted.
Exactly. How many teams damaged themselves trying to force the next Erik Karlsson into their lineup?
Remember when the Flyers tried to draft the next Zdeno Chara by drafting 6’6″ Sam Morin, despite everyone during the draft projecting him to be an 8 year project because he was so raw? That would mean he’d be on at least his 3rd contract before he might pay off. Can’t teach size though. Good times.
Makar is the same size and weight as Buium and anchored a cup team only a few years ago. I know everyone wants to forget that hockey existed before FLA won the last 2 cups but it still took him a decade and all-star team around him.
You want the whole package? Plus height and elite talent? Draft top 3 (Ekblad 1st overall), otherwise you pick the BPA. Flyers sure as hell don’t ever want to pick top 3 and there’s nothing to suggest that Buium can’t anchor a cup winning team.
Remember when the Flyers tried to draft the next Zdeno Chara by drafting 6’6″ Sam Morin, despite everyone during the draft projecting him to be an 8 year project because he was so raw? That would mean he’d be on at least his 3rd contract before he might pay off. Can’t teach size though. Good times.
Makar is the same size and weight as Buium and anchored a cup team only a few years ago. I know everyone wants to forget that hockey existed before FLA won the last 2 cups but it still took him a decade and all-star team around him.
You want the whole package? Plus height and elite talent? Draft top 3 (Ekblad 1st overall), otherwise you pick the BPA. Flyers sure as hell don’t ever want to pick top 3 and there’s nothing to suggest that Buium can’t anchor a cup winning team.
The issue with Morin was injury. I don’t think anybody was unhappy with his progress the first two injury free seasons with the Phantoms. He looked like he was on his way to being what they drafted but it was going to take awhile. Of course, in retrospect, I’d rather have Shea Theodore. Same with Patrick, who became an NHL regular as a depth center when he was a month younger than Luchanko is now. Obviously, we wouldn’t be having this conversation if the Flyers were deeper at center. The need for another center wouldn’t exist so no need to push Luchanko. It’s why Richards was almost 21 and Giroux was 21 before they became regulars. It’s a function of having a good, deep team.
Morin was nothing more than a than a 3rd paring guy if he panned out. He was nothing very good at all
Least he has a job for life. The new lappy
Morin was nothing more than a than a 3rd paring guy if he panned out. He was nothing very good at all
You could tell that from the three games he got into before he started getting hurt? Why hasn’t an NHL team hired you?
Morin was nothing more than a than a 3rd paring guy if he panned out. He was nothing very good at all
You could tell that from the three games he got into before he started getting hurt? Why hasn’t an NHL team hired you?
There is this league called the AHL. You should watch it sometime. He was nothing special in that league.
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