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Nesbitt absolutely has some skill. As for the tiny snippets of conversation they show, they selectively choose those because a segment of the fanbase worries more about that than if someone can play overall. In any given year, I probably have a dozen 10-15 minute hockey conversations with Keith Jones. He knows the game thoroughly.
It’s that’s the narrative they choose to put out there and even encourage then how can you critical of fans who respond to it and think “Flyers hockey” (the narrative) is bullshit in 2025?
In your own writings I know there certain things you can’t say or personal views you can’t express or positions you have to take based on your employer. Yet you have managed those restrictions, during your long career, with grace.
DB and Jones play to the lowest common denominator, intentionally. There’s no subtly, no nuance, no hidden truth. Whether he knows hockey or not is largely irrelevant because he wasn’t hired to do anything of any substance on the hockey side.
Jones is a career color commentator with no aspirations or known ability to be in a front office (not even a night class from Wharton). Comcast backed up a brinks truck full of money and said all you need to do is stand in front of the camera, like you have for the last 20 years, and say “aw shucks” in a friendly manner with a smile on your face. Jones told them he’d be their Huckleberry.
He’s doing what he’s paid to do and that is to make it more appealing for the lowest common denominator part to with their money. Nothing more, nothing less for this entertainment division of Comcast.
If he wants to be judged by more than the circumstances of his hiring and the narrative he chooses to project, then he needs to change it.
Anyway, having never met the man, just my opinion from a birds eye view.
Anyway, having never met the man, just my opinion from a birds eye view.
I wish you would have started your ignorant tirade with this statement so I could have disregarded your opinion sooner.
You know absolutely nothing.
Please stop the ad hominem attacks. They add nothing to the conversation and just drives people away from a site that is trying to grow. User engagement, not user beratement. Otherwise there is reddit where you will be rewarded.
To recap:
A Flyers promotional video was reposted and discussed.
Bill Meltzer posted that Jones is smarter than he appears in the video because the flyers need to pander to a certain segment of fans. He knows this because he knows Jones.
My take is that if you don’t want people to think you are a fool, don’t willingly let a big corp portray you as a fool. Otherwise, count your money and let people think you are in idiot.What did you think of the video? Did you agree with the original take of the video? What do you think of Jones/Flyers and why?
Anyway, having never met the man, just my opinion from a birds eye view.
I wish you would have started your ignorant tirade with this statement so I could have disregarded your opinion sooner.
You know absolutely nothing.
Please stop the ad hominem attacks. They add nothing to the conversation and just drives people away from a site that is trying to grow. User engagement, not user beratement. Otherwise there is reddit where you will be rewarded.
To recap:
A Flyers promotional video was reposted and discussed.
Bill Meltzer posted that Jones is smarter than he appears in the video because the flyers need to pander to a certain segment of fans. He knows this because he knows Jones.
My take is that if you don’t want people to think you are a fool, don’t willingly let a big corp portray you as a fool. Otherwise, count your money and let people think you are in idiot.What did you think of the video? Did you agree with the original take of the video? What do you think of Jones/Flyers and why?
the gold standard. one of the best run organizations in sports. one of the winningest franchises in the NHL. dedicated ownership who wants to win. a management team who is on the right path to contention. a new, successful, era of orange.
also knowing hockey doesn’t equate to one being successful at running a team or to be successful as a coach.
As a player Jonsey is portrayed as a guy with no skill or talent and a questionable work ethic, yet he was a solid NHL role player. As a broadcaster he’s portrayed as a clown who makes fart jokes, yet he was the top color guy in broadcasting. Now he’s the dopey broadcaster who lucked into a meaningless figurehead role…
the gold standard. one of the best run organizations in sports. one of the winningest franchises in the NHL. dedicated ownership who wants to win. a management team who is on the right path to contention. a new, successful, era of orange.
also knowing hockey doesn’t equate to one being successful at running a team or to be successful as a coach.
Was not last year the most embarrassing season of Flyers hockey in the most embarrassingly way possible? Especially for a team who thought they could make the playoffs?
The Flyers intentionally playing shorthanded on defense at the beginning of last year. Refusing to call up players. Who does that besides the flyers?
The embarrassing Jett fiasco at the beginning of the season where he ended up in the press box for 2 weeks to save face so they could say they gave him the 10 game trial. He wasn’t ready and he didn’t play well enough in training camp to make the Flyers give him the 10 games.
The record # of line changes in the first month of the season that became an internet meme. How was that competent coaching?
We also now find out that Torts pretty much left the training camp coaching to his assistants (that was just in a preseason article).
The big club had very little input/interaction with the Phantoms at Torts direction.and ending up with ..
York getting suspended by the team because Torts crossed the line. If Torts crossed the line, why was the player suspended? Amateur hour by a front office trying to figure out how to protect themselves.
Still not enough to get Torts fired so Torts had to take it up a notch.https://x.com/scottcwheeler/status/1904719643173937221
Tortorella: “This falls on me. I’m not really interested in learning how to coach in this type of season, where we’re at right now.”
“I really hope that this is the bottom,” Briere said. “This is rock bottom for us today, and this is the turnaround.”
Only after that were DB and Jonesy forced to act to save themselves. Up to that point they were partners in crime.
They would prefer we get collective amnesia regarding how the new era of orange has been going. Actually reaching lows lower than Fletcher 2 years after he was fired.
I would love for someone to explain to me how the Flyers weren’t a house on fire last year with 2 out of the 3 arsonists still in charge going forward? or we can pretend it was all a dream sequence and never talk of it again.
were danny boy and “jones” forced to fire torts? if so by whom I wonder. clearly, he had to go though danny has said numerous times he wanted him back.
hiring torts set this franchise back many years. either danny didn’t have the balls to fire him when he was named GM to go in his own direction or he wasn’t allowed. Either way it is terrible outcome.
Torts, Torts, Torts! Bad Torts is gone, never to return, unless the Flyers decide to retire his sweat suit. You all would have been far better off if you had stopped following the Flyers, like me, when he was first hired. Then you wouldn’t be suffering from Post Traumatic Torts Syndrome.
Torts, Torts, Torts! Bad Torts is gone, never to return, unless the Flyers decide to retire his sweat suit. You all would have been far better off if you had stopped following the Flyers, like me, when he was first hired. Then you wouldn’t be suffering from Post Traumatic Torts Syndrome.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Are you in favor of the Flyers repeating their past mistakes?
Lest we forget, Torts was only one head of the hydra. It was a triumvirate. The remaining 2 heads would prefer you ignore the bloody stump.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Are you in favor of the Flyers repeating their past mistakes?
Lest we forget, Torts was only one head of the hydra. It was a triumvirate. The remaining 2 heads would prefer you ignore the bloody stump.
Boy, that Terry Simpson was an awful Flyers coach. His failure in the 93-94 season is still hampering the team to this day!
Boy, that Terry Simpson was an awful Flyers coach. His failure in the 93-94 season is still hampering the team to this day!
It would be nice if you would add to the conversation instead of just trolling but you are what you are I guess.
Still Terry became an important part of Flyers history lest we forget, who, like Torts, was hired by clueless executives to return the Flyers to glory after missing the playoffs. Jay Snider was in charge while Russ Farwell was GM and Terry brought them all down. A real murderers row of executives. Terry’s failure in his lone year as coach caused Ed Snider to take back the team presidency from Jay and Russ’s final act before he himself was fired was to fire Terry.
In a circle of life moment, Russ’s firing brought back Clarke to the Flyers who as senior advisor was instrumental to get Torts hired.
There might be a lesson there but seriously the coach/co-GM who was just let go only a few months ago is extremely relevant to the current players and make up of the current front office.
were danny boy and “jones” forced to fire torts? if so by whom I wonder. clearly, he had to go though danny has said numerous times he wanted him back.
hiring torts set this franchise back many years. either danny didn’t have the balls to fire him when he was named GM to go in his own direction or he wasn’t allowed. Either way it is terrible outcome.
Why is Jones in quotes here? Are you saying that it might not really be his name?
were danny boy and “jones” forced to fire torts? if so by whom I wonder. clearly, he had to go though danny has said numerous times he wanted him back.
hiring torts set this franchise back many years. either danny didn’t have the balls to fire him when he was named GM to go in his own direction or he wasn’t allowed. Either way it is terrible outcome.
Why is Jones in quotes here? Are you saying that it might not really be his name?
should have been “jonesy”
It would be nice if you would add to the conversation instead of just trolling but you are what you are I guess.
Still Terry became an important part of Flyers history lest we forget, who, like Torts, was hired by clueless executives to return the Flyers to glory after missing the playoffs. Jay Snider was in charge while Russ Farwell was GM and Terry brought them all down. A real murderers row of executives. Terry’s failure in his lone year as coach caused Ed Snider to take back the team presidency from Jay and Russ’s final act before he himself was fired was to fire Terry.
There might be a lesson there but seriously the coach/co-GM who was just let go only a few months ago is extremely relevant to the current players and make up of the current front office.
Pot? Meet kettle. Actually, Farwell did some good things during his tenure. He fixed the drafting, despite the Jagr pass, traded for Brind’Amour and Lindros, despite the Forsberg inclusion. Torts is not extremely relevant to the current players. These guys are focused on right now. Perhaps a handful are still traumatized about a bad coach they had in pee-wees.
It would be nice if you would add to the conversation instead of just trolling but you are what you are I guess.
Still Terry became an important part of Flyers history lest we forget, who, like Torts, was hired by clueless executives to return the Flyers to glory after missing the playoffs. Jay Snider was in charge while Russ Farwell was GM and Terry brought them all down. A real murderers row of executives. Terry’s failure in his lone year as coach caused Ed Snider to take back the team presidency from Jay and Russ’s final act before he himself was fired was to fire Terry.
There might be a lesson there but seriously the coach/co-GM who was just let go only a few months ago is extremely relevant to the current players and make up of the current front office.
Pot? Meet kettle. Actually, Farwell did some good things during his tenure. He fixed the drafting, despite the Jagr pass, traded for Brind’Amour and Lindros, despite the Forsberg inclusion. Torts is not extremely relevant to the current players. These guys are focused on right now. Perhaps a handful are still traumatized about a bad coach they had in pee-wees.
did hiring torts set this franchise back? yes or no.
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