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  • #38292
    Flyers_01
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    https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_news_rumors_tortorella_defends_himself_couturier_speaks_out_more/s1_16448_42802982

    Some interesting quotes

    Torts : In an interview with NHL.com, he wanted to clear the air. “I loved coaching them,” he said. “I heard a couple NHL coaches accuse me [of quitting on the Flyers]. Did I quit on the team after those comments I made in Toronto? I haven’t quit on a [expletive] thing in my life. Those comments were totally taken out of [context].”

    Not sure that qualifies as clearing the air, more of a don’t believe your eyes and ears, i still want a coaching job. Sounds like even his peers agree he quit.

    Coots : Couturier said the following about the team’s ineffective power play: “It was almost like, the last couple years, guys were scared to make plays and get pulled off [the power play]. It’s not quite, I think, the mentality or philosophy you want to have going into a power play and trying to score a goal, when you’re scared to make plays.”

    Also, Torts is getting some help with his damage control to his image. Sullivan is really doing him a solid.

    yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/john_tortorella_taking_on_new_role_with_team_usa/s1_17437_42807157

    Sullivan : ”I want you to reveal yourself to the players and the other coaches,” Sullivan continued. “I want you to show the John Tortorella that I know, that my wife knows, that my kids know, that your kids know, that you don’t show the world very often.”

    ROFL. Tortorella is 67 and is going to reveal himself, for the first time, like a blooming flower to the world. How desperate is he to get another job and I wonder how his PR team got him to understand how bad his image is.

    This guys is going to bloom? “It goes with me everywhere,” Tortorella said with a smile. “I’ve been fired a few times; I always ask for the rope back when I’m out the door.”

    #38347
    Flyers4Ever
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    did hiring torts set this franchise back? yes or no.

    No, but he didn’t progress it either. Poor ownership, management, decision making and drafting set the franchise back. It’s going to take a few more years to climb out of it too!

    #38359
    Flyers_01
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    No, but he didn’t progress it either. Poor ownership, management, decision making and drafting set the franchise back. It’s going to take a few more years to climb out of it too!

    Some people are questioning all those 8 year contracts handed out. It’s all about the timeline and what appears to be a scattershot approach towards building towards a future contending team.

    https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_need_value_on_their_contracts_to_win_the_stanley_cup/s1_16448_42802352

    Having that much money allocated to two players in their mid-30s could be a problem. By that point, they could be third-liners—perhaps still capable of 20-goal seasons, but with a regressed all-around impact.
    That kind of inefficient spending can severely limit a team’s ceiling. Instead of being able to add a top-four defenseman, for example, the Flyers may not have the funds to make that happen.

    #38362
    yes its me 2050
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    did hiring torts set this franchise back? yes or no.

    No, but he didn’t progress it either. Poor ownership, management, decision making and drafting set the franchise back. It’s going to take a few more years to climb out of it too!

    that is a direct link to hiring torts no?

    #38363
    yes its me 2050
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    based on the “earning” it mantra the russian and olympian should be on the roster as of today.

    the jett needs to be sent back as he is offering nothing that they cant find off the street at this time to fill in at 4th line. you are doing him and the future of the team a disservice to keep him. Part of me hopes they do keep him and turn him into a solid 4th line center with zero offense as all about the entertainment.

    if they have any real plans ( i doubt they do) about the future then it is an easy choice on what to do.

    #38769
    yes its me 2050
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    What’s with the site as recent post just disappearing.

    Like predicted Andrae sent down. Imagine him being one of the names mentioned why they didn’t draft Buium. NHL ready flahr said last year. Granted he didn’t do anything to stand out or separate himself from the pack. Looks like another wasted 2nd rd pick. Thouh where the flyers are at he should be in the lineup over juulson and gilbert, maybe zamula.

    2016-2022 2nd rd picks: Labarge, hart, allison, ratcliff, ginning, brink, andrae, Samu. Add helge. Not very impressive.

    #38771
    Flyers_01
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    What’s with the site as recent post just disappearing.

    Like predicted Andrae sent down. Imagine him being one of the names mentioned why they didn’t draft Buium. NHL ready flahr said last year. Granted he didn’t do anything to stand out or separate himself from the pack. Looks like another wasted 2nd rd pick. Thouh where the flyers are at he should be in the lineup over juulson and gilbert, maybe zamula.

    2016-2022 2nd rd picks: Labarge, hart, allison, ratcliff, ginning, brink, andrae, Samu. Add helge. Not very impressive.

    The Flyers have no clue where they are at and never have.

    https://x.com/BroadStBull/status/1965797173922283577

    CEO Dan Hilferty: “Now we’re adding and you only add when you think you’re in the playoff conversation.”

    They are loading up for the playoffs (or is it the rebuild?) and you know what the Flyers think about small defensemen in the playoffs.

    It’s hard to keep track of which lie they push on any given day.

    #38775
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    What’s with the site as recent post just disappearing.

    Like predicted Andrae sent down. Imagine him being one of the names mentioned why they didn’t draft Buium. NHL ready flahr said last year. Granted he didn’t do anything to stand out or separate himself from the pack. Looks like another wasted 2nd rd pick. Thouh where the flyers are at he should be in the lineup over juulson and gilbert, maybe zamula.

    2016-2022 2nd rd picks: Labarge, hart, allison, ratcliff, ginning, brink, andrae, Samu. Add helge. Not very impressive.

    The Flyers have no clue where they are at and never have.

    CEO Dan Hilferty: “Now we’re adding and you only add when you think you’re in the playoff conversation.”

    They are loading up for the playoffs (or is it the rebuild?) and you know what the Flyers think about small defensemen in the playoffs.

    It’s hard to keep track of which lie they push on any given day.

    “hilf” is a fucking fan boy buffoon. best part is they added 1 player who in theory can make a positive difference.

    #38780
    Bill Meltzer
    Keymaster

    What’s with the site as recent post just disappearing.

    Like predicted Andrae sent down. Imagine him being one of the names mentioned why they didn’t draft Buium. NHL ready flahr said last year. Granted he didn’t do anything to stand out or separate himself from the pack. Looks like another wasted 2nd rd pick. Thouh where the flyers are at he should be in the lineup over juulson and gilbert, maybe zamula.

    2016-2022 2nd rd picks: Labarge, hart, allison, ratcliff, ginning, brink, andrae, Samu. Add helge. Not very impressive.

    I addressed it on Twitter and Facebook. Our database got past capacity. We had to reset it to September 29 and then start a migration from a shared server to a dedicated server.

    #38781
    yes its me 2050
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    <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>What’s with the site as recent post just disappearing.

    <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Like predicted Andrae sent down. Imagine him being one of the names mentioned why they didn’t draft Buium. NHL ready flahr said last year. Granted he didn’t do anything to stand out or separate himself from the pack. Looks like another wasted 2nd rd pick. Thouh where the flyers are at he should be in the lineup over juulson and gilbert, maybe zamula.

    <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>2016-2022 2nd rd picks: Labarge, hart, allison, ratcliff, ginning, brink, andrae, Samu. Add helge. Not very impressive.

    I addressed it on Twitter and Facebook. Our database got past capacity. We had to reset it to September 29 and then start a migration from a shared server to a dedicated server.

    Bill what defensive unit is worse:

    the current group or 1992/93 group

    #38946
    Flyers_01
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    https://x.com/NHLFlyers/status/1973406298277552419

    Bonk out another 2 weeks. Does anyone even know what his specific injury is? As usual Flyers injury updates are useless and of course he went from day-to-day to week-to-week so that’s not great.

    #38949
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    Bonk out another 2 weeks. Does anyone even know what his specific injury is? As usual Flyers injury updates are useless and of course he went from day-to-day to week-to-week so that’s not great.

    Oliver Bonk could still earn spot on Flyers’ blue line once healthy

    #38951
    Flyers_01
    Participant

    Hard to earn a spot from the hot tub but it is the Flyers.

    From the article :

    In fact, he might be in the running simply by having not played.

    That’s not to say Bonk will hit the ground running and establish himself as an outstanding rookie defenseman immediately. Yet, the average to rather uninspiring play from some of the blueliners not in the top two pairs has Bonk with a chance. Bonk might end up with the Flyers as soon as he’s physically ready to play.

    It’s basically saying the Flyers defense is so bad that you don’t have to earn a spot to make the big club, you just have to be breathing. It doesn’t sound like some things have improved at all since Torts left but they still have that patented Flyers Stanley Cup winning culture to build around although the closest they’ve been to the cup is watching it on TV.

    If training camp doesn’t matter, you know what this means? Jett has a chance to make the big club!

    #38952
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    Hard to earn a spot from the hot tub but it is the Flyers.

    From the article :

    In fact, he might be in the running simply by having not played.

    That’s not to say Bonk will hit the ground running and establish himself as an outstanding rookie defenseman immediately. Yet, the average to rather uninspiring play from some of the blueliners not in the top two pairs has Bonk with a chance. Bonk might end up with the Flyers as soon as he’s physically ready to play.

    It’s basically saying the Flyers defense is so bad that you don’t have to earn a spot to make the big club, you just have to be breathing. It doesn’t sound like some things have improved at all since Torts left but they still have that patented Flyers Stanley Cup winning culture to build around although the closest they’ve been to the cup is watching it on TV.

    If training camp doesn’t matter, you know what this means? Jett has a chance to make the big club!

    that piece is a joke as no way bonk starts on the flyers for a variety of reasons.

    on a side not sure how any real flyers fan can have faith/optimism with this team, farm system, and management to get them to “contending” status.

    #38965
    Flyers_01
    Participant

    that piece is a joke as no way bonk starts on the flyers for a variety of reasons.

    on a side not sure how any real flyers fan can have faith/optimism with this team, farm system, and management to get them to “contending” status.

    The article may be over the top but isn’t that far off from other puff pieces the Flyers are putting out there. He’ll start in the AHL but it may just be to get in shape. At least that seems to be the message from a number of outlets. Hopefully he spends the year in the AHL regardless of how bad the big club defense is player development needs to come first during a ‘rebuild’.

    yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_top_prospect_out_week_to_week_with_upper_body_injury/s1_14825_42831115

    Head coach Rick Tocchet has reportedly become disenfranchised with the available defense options, telling NHL contributor Bill Meltzer that nobody has stepped up enough to grab one of the team’s bubble spots on defense.
    Should that disappointing play continue into the first few weeks of the regular season, the Flyers could conceivably use Bonk’s first few games with the Phantoms as a makeshift training camp. If he excels through the first few weeks, Philadelphia could recall him for an opportunity at the NHL level.

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