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  • #38968
    yes its me 2050
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    #38971
    Flyers_01
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    https://x.com/charlieo_conn/status/1973444695746552262?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1973444695746552262%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    That was quite the word salad by Tocchet. It was like a high schooler asked to give a report on a book he hadn’t read. Let’s hope Charlie’s take is wrong and the choice isn’t Jett over Abols.

    #38973
    yes its me 2050
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    That was quite the word salad by Tocchet. It was like a high schooler asked to give a report on a book he hadn’t read. Let’s hope Charlie’s take is wrong and the choice isn’t Jett over Abols.

    love the all about “consistency” part”. guess winning a job on merit is not the way.

    #38978
    yes its me 2050
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    #39062
    yes its me 2050
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    after “rebuilding” the last 3 years this is the roster. job well done.

    – zamula hasn’t taken that next step and may never will. if you can get a mid rd pick for him I do it.

    – seeing where the flyers are at, they need to stop worrying about size and fit. Andrae should be on that bottom pair as he has more upside than the rest. he was nhl ready a year ago flahr was touting.

    – carrying 8 dman is a joke if they go that route. is it to save face and not have to cut gilbert or juulson?

    – if you’re going to keep ginnnig then play him, unless flat out awful, and live with his mistakes.

    – JD trade looking better and better. not even karl dykhuis level. if he keeps up his inconsistent play, will they re-sign him to save face?

    – tippet contract will not be a good one. you do not give non-core players 8 years.

    – goaltending will keep the ship sinking. really don’t see vlader helping. he was on a better team last year and put up below average numbers.

    – at what point do you cut bait with ersson. he also needs a new contract at years end. should have taken a shot with askarov when he was available

    – boucher is unbearable on the home telecast. at least he thinks the jett should go back to juniors.

    flyers fans thinking this team has a “shot” for the playoffs is hysterical.

    #39067
    Flyers_01
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    after “rebuilding” the last 3 years this is the roster. job well done.

    – zamula hasn’t taken that next step and may never will. if you can get a mid rd pick for him I do it.

    – seeing where the flyers are at, they need to stop worrying about size and fit. Andrae should be on that bottom pair as he has more upside than the rest. he was nhl ready a year ago flahr was touting.

    – carrying 8 dman is a joke if they go that route. is it to save face and not have to cut gilbert or juulson?

    – if you’re going to keep ginnnig then play him, unless flat out awful, and live with his mistakes.

    – JD trade looking better and better. not even karl dykhuis level. if he keeps up his inconsistent play, will they re-sign him to save face?

    – tippet contract will not be a good one. you do not give non-core players 8 years.

    – goaltending will keep the ship sinking. really don’t see vlader helping. he was on a better team last year and put up below average numbers.

    – at what point do you cut bait with ersson. he also needs a new contract at years end. should have taken a shot with askarov when he was available

    – boucher is unbearable on the home telecast. at least he thinks the jett should go back to juniors.

    flyers fans thinking this team has a “shot” for the playoffs is hysterical.

    I don’t think carrying 8 dmen is ever a great look for a team. It sends the message that you don’t have enough quality forwards to dress and for a team in year 3 of a rebuild that should be showcasing young forward talent, it sends the message you have failed in your job. I don’t think you will see the Blackhawks carrying 8 defensemen when they finalize their roster.

    Unless you have a Dominik Hasek, the majority of the goalies will not look good behind a bad defense. A point the Flyers have never addressed in a practical manner. The goalies get all the blame but the defensive core, which on average has been below average, generally gets a pass. And no, being on the Flyers top 4 doesn’t make you a top defenseman in the league.

    https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-current-players-ranked-top-20-defensemen-2025

    You aren’t going to see a Flyers defenseman anywhere near that list. No one in the system is even projected to ever be on that list. If you aren’t going to have great goaltending, you need great defense and the Flyers have neither. The Flyers were the #1 team in the league in blocked shots but near the bottom in many advanced stats and it’s hard to argue that they have improved from the team that got Fletcher fired other than this front office is much better at controlling the media.

    The team just spent 3 years trying to play harder, not smarter. Blocking a puck with your face is better than making a good outlet pass, etc.

    Play the younger guys and live with the mistakes, you can’t have players walking on eggshells, like they have been for the last 3 years. The Flyers FO has done the players a huge disservice and the 2 survivors aren’t going to accept any blame.

    Coots : Couturier said the following about the team’s ineffective power play: “It was almost like, the last couple years, guys were scared to make plays and get pulled off [the power play]. It’s not quite, I think, the mentality or philosophy you want to have going into a power play and trying to score a goal, when you’re scared to make plays.”

    Is it any wonder the team building failed under Torts/Jones/DB?

    #39069
    Flyers_01
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    – boucher is unbearable on the home telecast. at least he thinks the jett should go back to juniors.

    It’s interesting that in the last 48 hours an article or two has finally popped up finally saying that maybe it’s not so bad if he goes back to juniors. Up until then it was just go, go , go, Jett needs to be in the NHL no matter what.

    #39072
    yes its me 2050
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    I dont 100% blame the goalies as the defense is garbage overall. They have 2 dman (maybe 3 but you get the point) who would fit on other contending teams. Thats it IMO. That being said the goalies are also garbage. Sam has shown over all his stops he isn’t that good. save % always below 90.

    As far as the system, yep 1 guy who could be a top 4 D. All the others unless they play above their weight are bottom pair; if they make it. Sure, someone could surprise. Any faith in the flyers developing someone who projects a bottom pair into a solid top 4?

    Same with the goalies. yet they have a goalie coach who seems untouchable despite the results.

    for a team that was “rebuilding” under the current GM, they sure as shit have so many key holes and no closer to contention then when he took over.

    #39074
    FlyerFrank
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    I don’t think carrying 8 dmen is ever a great look for a team. It sends the message that you don’t have enough quality forwards to dress and for a team in year 3 of a rebuild that should be showcasing young forward talent, it sends the message you have failed in your job. I don’t think you will see the Blackhawks carrying 8 defensemen when they finalize their roster.

    I was surprised by this, but carrying 8 Dmen is actually fairly common. 10 teams started the season that way last year including the Leafs, Caps, Colorado and Vegas. Tell me how those teams are failures. All of them made the playoffs last year and three of them have won cups within the last few years.

    https://puckpedia.com/news/2024-25-nhl-opening-rosters

    Now I don’t recall the Flyers ever doing it. Maybe that’s why the possibility caught so many, including me, by surprise. I also don’t think an 8D roster best fits the current talent, or lack thereof, on the team. D is a problem, Ersson is a problem, situational awareness is a problem. One Flyer strength looks to be stealing points in a shootout. To me that means locking things down late in tie games, drag the other team into the shootout and steal a point there.

    #39078
    Trox88
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    It appears the short-term strategy is to hope somehow the team save % can get above .900. I am not very optimistic this will happen. They are still much closer to a top 5 pick then a playoff spot. Frankly, until this current regime can show the ability to get consistent goaltending, all the other aspects to building the roster will not matter. Briere cannot just point to and look at Zavragin will be really good when gets here. Looks like Dilly’s last hope to save his job will be if Vladar can post a career best save % this season. Boosh will have to word salad a ridiculous amount of times this season to avoid using the term “soft goal” this season.

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    #39080
    FlyerFrank
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    It appears the short-term strategy is to hope somehow the team save % can get above .900. I am not very optimistic this will happen. They are still much closer to a top 5 pick then a playoff spot. Frankly, until this current regime can show the ability to get consistent goaltending, all the other aspects to building the roster will not matter. Briere cannot just point to and look at Zavragin will be really good when gets here. Looks like Dilly’s last hope to save his job will be if Vladar can post a career best save % this season. Boosh will have to word salad a ridiculous amount of times this season to avoid using the term “soft goal” this season.

    Vladar has looked pretty decent, not sure how many games he can maintain that. Ersson just is not getting the job done although he did make a few nice saves last night.

    #39081
    VonZipper
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    It appears the short-term strategy is to hope somehow the team save % can get above .900. I am not very optimistic this will happen. They are still much closer to a top 5 pick then a playoff spot. Frankly, until this current regime can show the ability to get consistent goaltending, all the other aspects to building the roster will not matter. Briere cannot just point to and look at Zavragin will be really good when gets here. Looks like Dilly’s last hope to save his job will be if Vladar can post a career best save % this season. Boosh will have to word salad a ridiculous amount of times this season to avoid using the term “soft goal” this season.

    All the eggs are already in the basket.

    Flyers fans better start praying this kid isn’t the next in a long line of Maxime Oullet over-hyped goaltenders.

    #39087
    Trox88
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    It appears the short-term strategy is to hope somehow the team save % can get above .900. I am not very optimistic this will happen. They are still much closer to a top 5 pick then a playoff spot. Frankly, until this current regime can show the ability to get consistent goaltending, all the other aspects to building the roster will not matter. Briere cannot just point to and look at Zavragin will be really good when gets here. Looks like Dilly’s last hope to save his job will be if Vladar can post a career best save % this season. Boosh will have to word salad a ridiculous amount of times this season to avoid using the term “soft goal” this season.

    All the eggs are already in the basket.

    Flyers fans better start praying this kid isn’t the next in a long line of Maxime Oullet over-hyped goaltenders.

    I agree, the expectations will be ridiculous. I am amazed how long a leash Dillabaugh has received from this organization. He has been the goaltending coach since the ’15-’16 season. For an organization putting a huge emphasis on player development to rebuild the team into a contender, I just do not understand the current plan to solidify the crease.

    Right now, I believe the team will be better offensively, but whatever they construct as a 3rd pair and the goalie depth chart right now, I see them battling it out for the basement in the Eastern Conference. At this point it would be a miracle to see the the team goals against below 3 by the end of the season.

    #39092
    yes its me 2050
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    “dilly” probably a ‘great” guy. good in the “room”. players “love” him. gets “along” with everyone. doesn’t rock the boat. probably never asks for a raise lol

    results be damned

    If I am “zavy” I demand a new goalie coach before I come over…..

    #39099
    VonZipper
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    “dilly” probably a ‘great” guy. good in the “room”. players “love” him. gets “along” with everyone. doesn’t rock the boat. probably never asks for a raise lol

    results be damned

    If I am “zavy” I demand a new goalie coach before I come over…..

    When the point is raised that maybe Dillabaugh is a liability, it seems to be quickly dismissed. Almost makes one wonder what a Flyers goaltending coach actually does as it’s pretty obvious the job isn’t results-driven.

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