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Vancouver is a shit franchise like the flyers. So far from contending. If you trade hughes you take the best package regardless of position.
Hughes should get a haul by a competent GM if he is traded by the deadline. 2 playoff runs can easily get a contending team over the hump. If a team is close, they may have no problem overpaying a little. As they should. Good GM’s find a way so the cap shouldn’t be any issue.
Hahaha! The Flyers are playing .611 hockey, VAN is playing .417 hockey WITH one of the 5 best Dmen in the league. How does that happen? I thought only teams with elite, difference-making needle movers could win in the NHL. The teams are nothing alike. You don’t what the best offer is until you’ve seen all the offers.
We can debate whether is a top 4 Dman as far as play and production. Risto is now 31 and who has played over 70 games once since the ’20-’21 season. I think it is fair to question whether Risto really can be reliable for the duration of his current contract. The better hope I believe is Andrae solidifies his place in the top 4 with the current organizational depth chart.
As far as Hughes, VAN is basically a capped team who is now second worst in the league. Hughes has shown very little eagerness to extend with VAN this summer. In theory, VAN should be able to get better assets from a team that would have Hughes for two potential playoff runs as opposed to one. 1st round picks are nice, but if you are VAN how much value is there with multiple picks in the 20s in a particular draft. I believe when Hughes gets traded it will be similar to the Tkachuk trade with FLA. What would be different in a potential Hughes trade is he has term left on his contract. Tkachuk was traded during the summer when he could sign an extension with FLA. Rutherford should be able to do better from an asset standpoint trading Hughes before this trade deadline. What is the benefit of VAN keeping him past the deadline? Difficult to make the playoffs this season being so low in the standings. Unlikely, Rutherford can build a roster over the summer that can compete with EDM, ANA, or Vegas for next season to just even compete in the division. My personal belief is Rutherford would be foolish not to deal Hughes soon.
Once Hughes is traded, then I believe the next domino to fall would be BUF. Byram or Power would be my guess for the next young Dman with term left to potentially be traded.
For the bulk of his career, Risto has been durable. He played roughly the same number of games last year as York and had a better season.
If I’m VAN, I want two players, a center and a Dman, both younger than Hughes who can step in and play today plus a pick or prospect, maybe both. That’s where I’m starting anyway. VAN still has pending UFAs to get something for before Hughes has to go, plus some teams will have to wait until off season to make their best offer because of the cap.
all of whom are much better player than your beloved risto.
being the legit top 4 dman you believe he is; would the flyers be smart to sell high and trade him if he comes back healthy.
Unless they slump radically, the Flyers won’t be sellers this deadline so it’s moot. Would you include Risto in a package for Quinn Hughes?
not sure what being a “top 5” finn dman has to do with the nhl but ok. how many finn dman in the nhl as regulars?
If you’re not sure, maybe posting here is not a good idea. How many, not that many but these guys, like Lindell, Heiskanen, Mikola are great players for playoff teams.
compared to who? define “really” good.
being a top 4 guy on the flyers doesn’t equate to being a legit top 4 guy in the nhl.
cant wait to see playoff beast risto. he was built for the playoffs.
Compared to the other Finnish defensemen who weren’t selected ahead of him for 4 Nations. No more than 5 Finns were considered better for the position than Risto. The Flyers are 11th in GAA without him and he’s still Top 4 here, above both Andrae and Seeler. Feel free to name the teams he’s not a Top 4D on. There are a few. I do note Risto made a nice pairing with Andrae last year. He’ll fit very well in Taco’s system.
I guess the hope is when Risto returns he can help solidify the 3rd pair, which is a black hole. Juulsen and Zamula just get exposed way too much. If any of the top 4 miss significant time, the team is in deep trouble. York needs to get back sooner then later. I would hope Briere would take this winger surplus depth to address the blueline. I would assume he will try for Hughes first and is waiting to see how that plays out. I would hope Rutherford resolves the Hughes situation before the Olympic break, bot who knows.
Risto is really good. He’s a Top 4 guy here and for a lot of other teams too. He’ll make a difference. Juulsen had a rough 1st period. An errant pass led to the first goal and his penalty led to the 2nd. I’d be shocked if Hughes gets dealt anywhere this season.
Andrae had some slick moves on the ice and looked good.
Andrae has been a bright spot. He’s a +7 in 17 games. Zegras has a better faceoff win percentage than Cates now. TZ has been taking draws on PPs and been doing well in limited use. The Flyers left a point on the table yesterday for the first time in almost four weeks (EDM). On December 8, only three teams in the conference have a better win pct than the Flyers. Only two EC teams, WSH and TB, have better records over their last 10 games.
Early game, hopefully the boys have their legs right off the get-go in this one. Need a win here!!
Should be fun. Seeing how well they absorb a couple key injuries will be key. Some teams, like DAL and TB, have done it well, others, like FLA, have not.
