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FlyerFrank
ParticipantNot really shocked the did the deal now, but I can’t help but wonder how many low-ball offers they received as it’s no big secret Hughes had no intention to re-sign there.
While Hughes is no doubt the best player in the trade, I like that Vancouver appears to have strengthened weaknesses on their roster (long term) and, believe it or not, actually got bigger on their blue line.
VAN was the worst team in the league with Hughes but they got very good young players in return, have pending UFAs they can still deal for futures and can continue the tank for the first overall pick. They did fine under the circumstances.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantI’m shocked VAN did the deal so fast, but they got a haul, really everything I figured they would have wanted. Young center, Dman, prospect AND pick. MIN threw the kitchen sink at this deal and got it done.
FlyerFrank
Participantnah called facts. just look at tocchets coaching record.
flyers being so bad for so long they get excited at the wind blowing, I guess.
how those 4 players making out since that outlier year?
.621 hockey propped up b shootout wins. brick by brick
Bad takes are not facts. Hahahaha. Look at VAN’s record without Tocchet, it’s .403! Look at the .621 win pct with him here. That record is “propped up” by the rules of the game during the regular season. Same rules for everybody, only two teams in the entire east have better records. Those are actual facts.
FlyerFrank
Participantcalled an outlier.
Tocchet hasn’t limited Dvorak or Zegras, wasn’t limiting Foerster and hasn’t limited a team that is playing .621 hockey. It’s called blogger bullshit.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantTocchet has only won one playoff series as a bench boss across nine seasons (excluding this one): with the Vancouver Canucks in 2024. That team, mind you, had a 103-point center, an 89-point center, a Norris Trophy-winning defenseman, and a Vezina Trophy finalist between the pipes. There’s an argument to be made that his system limits ceilings.
I understand a lot of people want to write about hockey but if Tocchet’s systems limit ceilings, how did all that happen in Vancouver?
December 12, 2025 at 11:03 am in reply to: Flyers Game Day Thread: Dec. 11 vs. Golden Knights #54378FlyerFrank
ParticipantWith the shortage of centers league wide why would he want that deal? Would be wise to test the market as his last pay day. There should be no rush at all to re-sign him.
Personally, I hope they do re-sign him and overpay.The plan all along was to re-sign him when he signed his current deal.
I don’t see any rush either. Wheels are starting to turn around the league now. Big EDM-PGH trade, which I think, sadly, PGH got the better of because of Kulak.
December 12, 2025 at 10:32 am in reply to: Flyers Game Day Thread: Dec. 11 vs. Golden Knights #54344FlyerFrank
Participantwhat kind of deal do you give dvorak? he is having a career year. always been a low to mid 30 guy.
Dvorak also never had a linemate like Zegras, which is a lot of that. So, GMs are going to figure he’s a .5 PPG guy at best and does the faceoffs and D things well for THEIR team. That does have real value. You also have to figure Coots will sag out of the top 9 eventually. Jett can’t be counted on as Top 9 next year and Nesbitt is a ways away. Certainly, I’m offering 3 years at the same price, maybe a bit more. He could also be traded for future assets if the Flyers fall apart, which looks unlikely for now. I’m terrible at projecting contracts though.
December 12, 2025 at 10:01 am in reply to: Flyers Game Day Thread: Dec. 11 vs. Golden Knights #54323FlyerFrank
ParticipantChristian Dvorak . . . does a lot of things well on both sides of the puck and he’s developed pretty strong chemistry with Zegras in particular.
Emil Andrae had a rough night with the puck on his stick.
The Flyers either over-passed or missed the net on some of their better scoring chances.Dvorak has been a real revelation. They should try to reup him. He does so many things well that you don’t expect a younger developing player to do well that I think he’s a must re-sign.
Andrea also let Vegas step inside him to the mid-ice lane and make plays at the net a couple times in the 1st. Cost them the first goal. On the other hand, Theodore and McNabb had tough nights and were both -2. Which one of them left Zegras wide open for his goal? I’ve seen them play a lot better.
The over-passing has been an intermittent issue. Saw Tippett pass on a prime scoring chance and Taco mentioned Sanheim did the same thing.
December 11, 2025 at 12:57 pm in reply to: Flyers Game Day Thread: Dec. 11 vs. Golden Knights #54150FlyerFrank
ParticipantThe Flyers are 1-1 in this current essential 6 game stretch. Not sure what to expect tonight but the Flyers seem more than capable of making a game of it. They’re 10-4-2 in their last 16 games. If I were Vegas, I’d rather have a healthy Pietrangelo than Marner but VGK seems to be making do.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantQuality win. And a 4th line goal!
The Flyers took care of business last night. On December 10, only two Eastern Conference teams have better winning percentages than the Flyers, they will be getting healthier sooner rather than later and the schedule eases in a week through the end of the season.
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