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Well, do you really believe if the Flyers valued Hague as a top 4 option, they did not have the assets to better NSH’s offer.
The Flyers literally don’t have a legit NHL 4C man (Sissons) and Lauzon is a veteran too and the Flyers need to add not swap. Hague individually was never a big deal, the Flyers need to fill a D spot. That’s why trades are tricky for the Flyers. They have too many holes yet themselves.
Well the Hague rumors proved to be false.
How were they false? Hague got traded after all. I was a bit surprised as the Pietrangelo is finished talk started shortly after the Hague rumors started. The Flyers don’t have the pieces to have matched what NSH gave up. Get the Dman in UFA. They have some cap space.
Read Jake Allen was looking for a 4 year deal. Good for him if he can get that term, definitely do not want the Flyers to give him that contract. Hofer extended in STL, so he is no longer an option. Demko may not extend, which will supposedly lead him to be traded. I expect the goal tending situation to be resolved pretty quickly after the start of free agency.
Reimer is a UFA and might be what they need. With DET getting Gibson, Talbot might be available in a trade. Demko looks like an expensive risk to me. I’d rather see them play it fairly safe with the goalie situation.
brink is head and shoulders better than pelletier. still some upside with brink. terrible comparison to me. funny to me how you easily discard a guy who put up 40+ points(which is more than Pelletier’s career) on a cheap contract for 2 years on this shit team. He is a lock to be a regular, as he should, unless moved. why is this so hard to comprehend?
He’s a lock . . . unless he’s moved. He’s moving. Maybe not by opening night, but he’s moving . . . unless he shows the upside you’re talking about. Maybe he adds a few pounds and some strength this off season. I’m not rooting against him, I just don’t see him in any mid to long term plans.
Brink is a winger. Flyers drafted 4 centers, 1 winger all of whom are years away from playing in the nhl, if at all.
I can tell you right now Martone isn’t years away from taking a top 9 wing spot on this team. He’ll have a shot at getting it this year. My guess is, he’s already among the six best wingers the Flyers have. Brink is also a redundant piece with Pelletier around. If one sticks, the other is gone sooner. They could be outplayed by others who’ll get a crack: Dorwart, Bump, et al. One or the other could be packaged to get something they need more than wingers: goalie, Dman, center who can win faceoffs. We’ll know a lot more by Wednesday.
this coming from the guy who has cates as the top line LW and Brink not even in the lineup.
If the draft didn’t convince you they’re looking to move beyond Brink ASAP, nothing will. That’s the Flyers talking, not me. I already said I like Cates’ game well enough that I want him in my Top 9 even once they improve the other centers enough to make that happen. None of that is guaranteed to happen by this opening night but there’s a chance of it.
clearly I am not as versed in the sport as you. I mean your knowledge is off the charts.
You seem to have been taken off course by some overemphasis on skill and speed, size doesn’t matter, Dmen must lead the rush thinking that poisoned a few minds over the last several years. Once you get over that, you have some potential. You have the passion no matter how misdirected it currently is.
– They clearly overcompensated for size on players who are many years away. By that time the nhl trend will change again. flyers always following.
– flyers have next to zero puck moving dman in the system.
Yes, in three years the league will be dominated by teams filled with skilled 160 pound players and defensemen who couldn’t break an egg with their hitting but boy can they skate with the puck and get caught out of position on their way to yet another -3 night on the scoresheet.
of course it’s only a matter of time. but you say this could be their top 9 on opening night lol
cates got selke votes the first year they moved him to C while playing over his head. they traded laughton and poehling. i think it’s safe to say cates will remain in the middle.
I’m speculating about what’s possible. I’d like to see a fun team to watch this year. I started watching again more closely last year mostly because of Michkov who made the team last year at 19 . . . and delivered.
in this scenario you have luchanko and martone on the team already when in reality they probably aren’t making the team yet, you’ve moved cates to wing for some reason and brink is apparently not on the team anymore? help me get there lol
It’s only a matter of time and are they good enough to take spots from the guys who are here. For example, Martone is a LW. How many LWs do the Flyers have on the roster who are better than he is today? I don’t think the answer is four. Of course, unless the Flyers add a center, Cates is going to be a solid 2-way center here . . . but the future is coming. Cates is the kind of player I want to keep in my Top 9 even when the Flyers do add more NHL-caliber centers. There was an issue in ANA with Zegras being flipped to wing. Leave him at center and get a defensive winger cheating high. Problem solved.
where’s brink?
I do find the Brink love here amusing. Enjoy him here while you can.
Il say it again, Cates is not playing wing after signing that deal. He is the 3rd line center. Lead Pipe lock.
I also don’t think Luchanko makes the team.
I’m just saying it’s possible. If the Flyers continue to add at center, and there’s more than the draft to do that, somebody flips to wing. Having a defensively responsible forward who can score from outside while cheating to the D side of the puck flipped to the wing is not a bad move. Having Kurri do that for Gretzky and having Leino do it here for Briere shows the idea can work. Zegras is the guy sticking in the middle. Lots of variables. Just throwing out possibilities that are not unreasonable.
Anyone beyond round three is pretty much a “hope and a prayer”, but you never know. Without a third round pick we got six really good prospects in rounds 1 & 2, it’s gonna be three plus years before we find out what’s there in my opinion but a really good draft for the team. Lots to be happy about. Watching these kids grow and develop is all part of the fun.
Some people think Martone makes the team this camp. It’s not like they don’t have spots up front that need an upgrade right now. It’s not wild to think their opening night Top 9 looks like this:
Cates-Zegras-Michkov
Martone-Couturier-Konecny
Foerster-Luchanko-TippettSo far the Flyers have drafted a medium sized college basketball team lol
Reach is nice, very helpful for Dmen, but to me it’s the getting pushed around too easily which is where weight and strength come in. Reading plays and getting good position can help a smaller guy play bigger but I’d rather have a guy 6-0 and 195 doing that against a bigger opponent than a 5-9 and 170 guy.
